with all these concubines going against her i wonder how'll she handle it with her passive attitude. she's way too soft and optimistic about certain things for her to be in an imperial harem. & she's acting nothing like the old empress causing everyone to be suspicious(i know she doesn't have to exactly' like the old empress but come on.)
don't worry, plot amor will make sure that everything works out splendidly
why? just why is she so adamant on getting with the duke !!
For money and a easy life
I'm saying before it got this far there were plenty other nobles she could've seduced. she was not this persistent with the prince.
oh..yeah.
Because next to the prince and the church, he is the second most powerful man in the kingdom. And she’s used to have a very grand lifestyle, so since she couldn’t make things work with the prince (she didn’t try as hard because he could execute her if she pushed things too far, and she didn’t like him as much), the Duke was the next best thing.
Because she is a bitch and a homewrecker.
i feel bad for her yeah but the logic in her head is a little ......retarded .. maybe she thinks what she doing is logical but too me she just looks dumb& foolish and this whole comic is built off misunderstandings other than that nothing is holding this plot together... lets hope its gets better.
I know she's going a little overboard but that husband of her isn't doing anything or not denying that he has a relationship with his cousin. He's not trying to fix her misunderstanding and that cousin is also stupid. she can clearly see that, because of her this marriage is breaking and she still stick with her cousin and saying this isn't what she's thinking telling that to her while holding her husband hand, if i were the mc i would stright up ready the divorce papers and slam it at my husband face
not really liking her motive for all of this maybe the mean girl thing isn't for me she just seems cruel, Bitter and petty.
Exactly. She just seems so cliched and pathetic like every other evil woman in fiction.
Now that we have more background info on the characters past and their point of view, I’d to ask what you think of the story now.
I actually haven't caught up.
Oh. I suggest that you should. The story’s really good and has some amazing plot twist. I could summarize it for you but I don’t think I would do a good enough job. The story also just got released on webtoon so you can read it for free while still supporting the author. It’s official name is “your throne”.
Thanks I definitely will, but could you give me a spoiler? Does psyche and harry end up together or does it seem like its heading that way?
If by Harry you mean Helios then no. There has been another ML who has been introduced who is most likely going to end up with psyche since he hates Medea. Also Helios is in love with Medea.
Oh my god... I knew no way in hell with all those other unique names his name wasn't going to be Harry it didn't sound right, anyways THANK YOU!! I'll definitely catch up and if you want to we'll talk about it then? If not then still thank you for putting back on this manhwa. :)
Thanks. I’m eager to hear what you think of this webtoon after the big reveal happens.
i just want to give Dan a hug he just seems so pitiful and i feel so bad :(
Her foster family better not be let off and forgotten by the end of this especially that little brat and his mother!
sorry accidentally hit thumbs down
it's fine.
uhh the uncle and ex have already been crossed off my list for mr han they seem like they have too much unfinished business and are pursuing him for the wrong reason and just don't want to lose to each other their whole little situation is weird soo no. that means that leaves ZAC!! and i don't know about the pink haired guy he's seeming more and more like an antagonist...hmm we'll see
seme is very fucked up... reading the comments you guys hate the teacher's guts but the seme gets a by pass?... weird.
I think it's because the teacher is being very homophobic and bit of a narcissist while the seme is more of a sadist. If that makes sense?
Seme is honest at least, the teacher isn't
Yoon Seungho = An asshole that assume that he is one. Will always do what he wants in front of you and use any means necessary to get whatever he wants without hiding who he is.
In hun = A double faced asshole. Envious of what he doesn't have. Following his own agenda and seems like a sneaky and back stabbing bastard.
I will take the first asshole anytime if I have to choose between both. I least if I know his mood, I won't be surprised.
main motherfucker is chaotic neutral while the teacher is lawful evil and it just annoys the everliving hell out of me. plus crazy bastard is hot and people tend to give the good looking guy a better bone :'''))
main motherfucker is chaotic neutral while the teacher is lawful evil and the teacher just annoys the everliving hell out of me. plus crazy bastard is hot and people tend to give the good looking guy a better bone :'''))
I agree with the consensus that Seungho is problematic, but at least he is overtly so. He isn't shy about showing his true colors, that being a nymphomaniac and a sadist. He is honest about who he is, even if the majority of his fellow noblemen find him distasteful. But there is an underlying side of him beginning to show 'care' for Na-Kyum as the story progresses, even if he does end up taking advantage of the painter (ex. Stopping further punishment after the ruined painting, having his manservant assist Na-Kyum while he heals from the aforementioned punishment, 'saving' the painter from the jealous lover's assault, and exhibiting gentleness towards Na-Kyum during sex after the misdirected confession of love). And this emerging new personality of his is a deviation of what he typically is, and it endears him to some readers despite his being a total tool and a basket case.
However, the teacher is playing up a facade of being a civilized, courteous, and caring individual, when in fact, he is being covert with what he really is. He is condescending when he talks about teaching farmers' children - considering that he is an educator by profession -, he is clearly homophobic, judgemental, and self-righteous, and is deviously ambitious when he sees all of Seungho's wealth and power and deems the other unworthy of what he has - while Inhun believes that he is far more deserving of such things because he is 'righteous' and 'unworldly'. Inhun is illicitly manipulative and selfish, as opposed to Seungho who is equally manipulative and selfish, but is explicit about being just that.
What you see with Seungho is what you get, while with Inhun, his diabolical and scheming nature is kept hidden - which is far more messed up, and sours readers' perception of him compared to the other.
Seungho is true to himself and to everyone, while In Hun is a hypocrite.
Damn! my thoughts exactly haha, good comment
i'm sorry i don't get it and i just wont no matter how many times people try to explain...as long as he's open about his trashiness right? i'd rather a 2 faced friend than someone who kidnaps, abuses and threatens me, sorry! the reasons you guys hate inhun is because of his petty characteristics. but seungho is a rapist , abuser, sadist and kidnapper but he gets a bypass because he is 'true to himself' ...ok. disclaimer i don't hate the seme or the story(plus the art is bomb and the seme is hot)i just acknowledge that Seungho is bad and he doesn't get a bypass or praised in my book and the logic of why Seungho gets one and everyone is acting like inhun has ate their grandmother is very inane. but anyway keep enjoying i'm waiting on the next update just like you are.
we're also fucked up, so relax
btw..i also don't like the teacher and see his flaws but i ain't letting Seungho ass off either and because he is the main male lead makes me want to beat him with a belt even more! but lets get into this character development i haven't given up on him yet!
mhmm
No one is giving Seungho a pass. He is a sociopath and a Grade-A asshole, and that is a fact. But we are comparing him to another asshat in the story and that is Inhun. We are all entitled to our own opinions and point of views, and some people do think that they'd rather have the antithesis of a male lead who shows what they are instead of a person who puts up an act that they are this upstanding guy when they are in fact hiding something very sinister. It is those who have something to hide that are truly scary. Serial killers are often like that (not calling Inhun a serial killer, but wearing a false mask is what he and they have in common). If I saw Seungho doing what he does, I'd run for the hills and avoid him like the plague. However, with Inhun, it's his facade of normalcy and his hypocrisy that is putting readers off. He's someone who seems trustworthy, when in fact, he could be plotting the downfall of another just because he doesn't agree with or like them. He's a person you can tell all your deepest, darkest secrets with, not knowing that he'll use them against you when you least expect it. With Seungho, he is an individual who you know from the get-go is completely untrustworthy, so it will be wise to avoid any contact to begin with. Just my two cents.
We're already seeing the shift in terms of character development, that's true. And it will probably be Seungho becoming less of an asshole (but still is one), and Inhun taking on the mantle of biggest dick in POTN.
i stopped at everyone is entitled to their own opinion because they are never said they weren't and no matter how many times you explain i still won't get it it just seems like excuses and assumptions of what he'd might do to make him seem like the biggest monster when in reality he has not done anything wrong YET or to measure up to the semes doing. ... i was really just weirded out at the fact that people hated the inhun guy so much but never mentions the seme's actions.(which are way worse.)
People already mentioned the Lord's bad actions and flaws in long and large we can't even count anymore.
But I think people don't like the Learned Sir more because he's one of the antagonists here, also the love interest of MC Nakyum, and because amongst the human defaults, hypocrisy is amongst what people hate the most.
k.
I mean, I agree with this. Aside from being homophobic, which shouldn't really shock ppl that much if we remember which era the story takes place in, the teacher hasn't really done anything bad yet. I think we can all feel like the author is setting him up to be a villain, but no reason to call him a monster rn lol. He even criticized the painter for drawing porn and told him to do something else...that was very nice of him especially taken that his position depends on the painter drawing.
Like Nakyum, I'm pretty sure that everyone will just hate Seungho and like Inhun if they were real people. The latter didn't show any kind of misbehaviour and seems polite and good in any kind of circumstances. Only the readers (and maybe Seungho) know his true nature. Sure he didn't do anything because till now he wasn't given the opportunity, but from what I can guess, I'm pretty sure that Inhun will do something really nasty that will emotionally break Nakyum. But that's only my prediction, the author could go another way.
I choose Seungho from a reader's point of view not from something I can condone irl. The only thing that make me drawn to him is wanting to know what or who made him this way. As people mentioned, he can be very caring like he is a sadist, a rapist and whatever else that's bad. That's a part of his mood swings.
As Sakata Ginko said, we as readers see something about Inhun that makes us dislike him, and it's his potential for engineering trouble in the plot. In the perspective of real life, Inhun is a person everyone likes because he shows himself as somebody respectable and polite, while Seungho is outwardly the exact opposite. Inhun's trains of thought on his own time as well as his latest outburst to Na-Kyum heavily implies to most of us that he will be an individual capable of plotting against Seungho - either because he despises what he is and does, or simply to elevate himself over someone he thinks is undeserving of their position and influence. I don't know about you, but I prefer somebody transparent and I can tell who and what they are, versus someone who is being kind one second and a backbiter when I'm not around. And that is an opinion I'm entitled to.
I do not disregard what Seungho does or did, and reading the first few chapters almost made me turn away from this story because of how he treats Na-Kyum and other people. However, as Sakata Ginko also mentioned, he is still capable of being a caring person (as we have seen in a couple of instances during his interactions with Na-Kyum) despite being a shit human being half the time.
THIS. THANK YOU.
Totally love your explanation!
I doubt that Uzumakii person even read the latest comments you guys wrote. They just wanted to express their hatred towards the Lord ("because he's a rapist, kidnaps people"...), while putting Fei long on their profil picture; Fei Long who kidnapped and raped Akihito in an even worse way than Seungho will ever do to Nakyum!
How funny.
I like your thread because that's a non toxic one and people are expressing their views without being called names. That's a breath of fresh air.
This one! I generally like my lawful evil in manga but this one irks me to the max.
girl... i just said i don't hate him and i didn't want this thread to turn into a Seungho or inhun hate train all i said was that i was weirded out by the fact no one ever mentions Seungho actions but hates inhun more for his action, i never even asked for this whole debate but i appreciate everyone's feedback and them trying to explain their reasoning. i've already said my replies to all the comments that i needed to and i've read everyone's explanation and already said how i feel about it no need for anything else. & don't see your point in bringing up my pfp Fei long is hot thats it thats all never said he was a good 'person'.
Then maybe you need to re-read the comments here?
Although most readers don't like the Learned Sir for being a two-faced character, the Lord wasn't spared either concerning reproachs about him being a bad person etc, so honestly I don't really get your point saying "No one ever mentions Seungho actions but hates In Hun for his actions".
All the rape debates, the murdering discussions, the comparison to KS we readers had till now were about the Lord, and it seems you were there too.
About In Hun, he didn't do much in term of actions (compared to Seungho), he didn't kill nor rape, but as readers we know which kind of person he is by his thoughts; which is the reason many readers dislike him. (And because he's the rival of the MC).
Now, why am I bringing Fei Long? Because your reproachs don't align with what you show. I don't hate Fei Long, in fact he's the only character in Viewfinder that I can like, I dislike that series; and the only thing I read was the chapters about Asami and Akira... But yeah, the passage where Fei kidnapped and raped (violently) Akihito was terrible for me to watch; I'd prefer for him to never have sexual contact with these people.
I find just weird that you seem to despise so much the Lord while having also a rapist on your picture.
Btw, saying to me "k" (Which I didn't even know the meaning) is far from being nice.
* Asami and Fei Long
i literally just said AGAIN that i don't hate nor despise him so stop, please. Fei long being my profile pic has nothing to do with him being a rapist or his character i'm just an aesthetic person and liked the picture that's it that is all so again why you even brought Fei long or view finder into the convo was unnecessary. i've concluded that your point was to say to me that people do bring up Seungho's actions and i get it now.. they do.. but he does not get as much hate as the teacher guy which weirded me out and was all i was saying. and i'm sorry if you felt some type of way about the "k" thing which is why i think your upset more than anything else, because i've already said my peace with the whole debate thing, never asked anyone to get my point we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I think it was really unnecessary to bring up Feilong.
@Uzumakii having Feilong as a pic is really not a point but a rant. They could have the greatest bastard as a pic, that shouldn't change anything. And they already understood what we wanted to say as they wrote way before that they don't dislike Seungho.
We are talking about Seungho vs Inhun and why people seem to accept one more than the other. We don't need to agree with each other or force our views on someone.
So let's just calm down and not turn this thread into another witch hunt.
And I don't think this latest comment was necescary.
This is not "witch hunt", that's just stating some facts.
The precise points why all this discussion started was Uzumakii saying: "No one ever mention Seungho's actions but hates more In Hun for his actions". Can I still have the right to say it's strange since there are so many toxic discussions about rape, violence etc (where you guys also participated) concerning the Lord?
One can like or dislike Seungho is not really the point, but saying no one ever mentioned Seungho's actions is just lie.
Though yeah, we all agree that we disagree.
The reason why I brought Fei Long, and I'm not the only one that pointed it out to you, was that regarding such topics that seem to bother you so much, Fei Long as your picture is not the best avatar, lol. Of course, people are gonna question you about on this, and they can't guess that you only do this for aesthetic reasons.
That's good that you get that responding "k" to someone is simply rude, you made peace with the debate does't give you the pass to treat the rest of comment like this. I doubly don't appreciate it because I don't even know the meaning of it.
Anyway, this goes overboard of the topic, and since it gives me headaches, I'm gonna leave this discussion...
Thank you! ヾ(☆▽☆)
Sorry, wasn't my intention.
it'd be nice if the FL and the heroine could have a good & genuine relationship but...come on#－.－) she doesn't have to be the 'queen' to live a good life it really seems like she's throwing her life away and giving up. stuck in a castle all day with no love from her spouse and no power at all(unless that's how she wants to live)when she could find true love of her own(she's popular for being smart and beautiful) or go adventuring around this new fantasy world she just transmigrated in(she wants to live a quiet life so nvm on this).
not hating on her, just her way of thinking i don't get and seems foolish, all in all its only the first chapter so guess we'll just have to wait and see. Thanks for the upload! and the translation!