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I was just thinking that too And he's so cute I was internally squealing (⌒▽⌒)

Ikrrr. But that concubine is gonna ruin it

I mean on the bright side she will most likely die Still not the best but she'll probably die hopefully ╥﹏╥(▰˘◡˘▰)

100% agreed (づ￣ ³￣)づ

There's more to abuse than physical abuse. Right now, MD is being manipulative. Borderline mental abuse, if you ask me.

I was looking for this comment... !

Am not gonna argue with u cuz honestly we all have different opinions and that’s fine. Let’s wait and see how the next chapters play out. Let’s see if MD is being plain abusive or this is a plot to get chanwoo to snap out of it and learn

If you think this type of situation is a good way to make a past-abuse victim to learn from their mistakes, alright.

Right. Chanwoo needs something big to shake him up cuz his past experiences didn’t do a good job of teaching him. And everyone shaming on MD as abusive T^T I mean he may be we never know it based on what we have seen so far I don’t necessarily think so.

Well. For normal people no. Chanwoo is a strong head. He won’t learn. He needs something to open his eyes that he needs to say no when he is not okay with it. Now if he hates the way MD is treating him and hates someone other than him being MD’s sub then he has to say so or MD would just go on. But considering how MD acts he’d probably stop if it goes way to far

Lmaoo

So see if that does happen my petty ass would probably come back here to be like “AHA I TOLD U SO” am so sorry if that happens guys

Yes yessss cuz from the looks of it chanwoo doesn’t want that sub to be MD’s partner so I’d say it’s a development(?)

Ahem ahem I just wanted to sayyyyyy I TOLD YOU SOOOOO

Told us what? If anything, this chapter proves that MD emotionally manipulated Chanwoo, to the point where he said the safe word. He also apologised at the end - which also means he knew he did something wrong.

There’s 2 key things I’ll like to point out:

1.In no frame did the suppose BDSM play even seemed remotely enjoyable to Chanwoo - which goes against the play since it’s meant to be pleasurable for both parties. Chanwoo looked uncomfortable, disgusted and upset the entire time. What did MD do? Kissed the other dude and smiled. Yikes.

2. Yeah, MD got what he wanted in the end if that’s your point - he ‘taught me Chanwoo a lesson (gross). This literally tells me that he had ulterior motive, disguised as BDSM play. That’s manipulation, and hes a scum for that.

But that was the point no? Md had to push it that far for chanwoo to learn. It’s better than leaving chanwoo alone and something way worse than that happens to him. And the same person he kept calling gross is the same one he literally jumped to have sex with Like few days b4 that thing with MD happened

MD isn’t Chanwoo’s therapist. He has no right to teach Chanwoo a lesson LMAO. Tbh, I’m confused as to what the goal is....for Chanwoo to be aware of his abusive romantic relationships? Obviously, it’s fiction (which shouldn’t be an excuse bc abusive relationships isn’t something you should use as a plot device, gross) but pushing someone’s boundaries in this sort of context is harmful and implies the victim is at fault and responsible for their own short-comings. Also, the thing is, Chanwoo isn’t just MD’s ‘sub’.

anyways, you can justify MD’s actions if you want. But don’t act surprised if ppl are critiquing the direction of the webtoon since most of the points are completely valid.

you ask what the goal is - the goal is to make Chan that can and should use the safe word to finally SAY THE SAFE WORD!!! like he could do from the very start but choose not too no matter what MD did!
if he can't USE it, he should not be a sub at all, and MD will find someone else to be his sub.
it simple has that! and MD don't own Chan anything if Chan can date other people and still have sex with MD on the side! MD can change his mind and find other subs if Chan can't do it.
it was Chan who decided to stay and didn't want to lose MD!

True MD isn’t chanwoo’s therapist, but he would rather take it upon himself to help chanwoo before chanwoo ends up probably getting choked to death somewhere out there cuz we all know he’s still gonna go around picking up scumbags. And hey BDSM is already messed up as it is so I don’t see what the fuss about one slap is.

Devising “abuse” as a plot is not so great that’s true however so is devising killing, fighting, cheating etc. and we all watch those in 90% of the Genre out there so I don’t see the difference.

U said it urself “it is fiction” however if we were to relate this to real life matter I’d say that when u reading about these things, it’s telling people “things like this do exist and if u find it disgusting while reading it then let it serve as a reminder not to do it in real life or you will be just as disgusting as the character you are hating on” so if a lesson like that could be learn I don’t see why we should hate on the author for using it as a plot.

Ahhhh one more thing MD didn’t say “sorry” cuz he knows he manipulated chanwoo, he said sorry cuz regardless of his intent behind What he did to chan, he still hurt a person he had feelings for that’s why he had to apologize.

If u spilled ur best friend secrets to keep him/her safe wouldn’t u still apologize to ur best friend for doing that regardless of what ur motives was? It’s the same for MD

bro can date whoever the fuck he wants - he's not married to MD so Im not sure why people think MD deserves to get revenge. the fuck?

but I didn’t say he belonged to MD did I? I literally never even mentioned MD. I said he needs to learn from his past mistakes smh. Am not dissing chanwoo I like the dude too. So am please stop coming after me in an attempt to defend him.


Smh u said I didn’t read comments b4 reply in the other thread yet here u are not reading and replying shit shaking my fucking head. Hypocrisy in the highest. U commenters seem to overdoes on it

does bdsm really involve slapping people? that sounds a lot like all the other abusive relationships he has been in. except now it has a pretty label to somehow make it ok.

well DM is a sadist, a very badass one XD

right, but obviously Chanwoo found the slap unsettling. MD needs to chill

I mean bdsm involves choking and whipping and candle wax poured on the body so I wouldn’t say slapping is not involved and I wouldn’t say it’s toxic. Also md repeatedly said so many times “chanwoo are you okay? You can use the safe word you know?” So I find it hard to believe someone who took care of chanwoo like that even after their bdsm play is abusive. And tbh people like chanwoo needs something big to shake them up or they never learn.

Yes yes bdsm is all about pleasure derived from pain

Ikrrr

That is incorrect, pain isn’t all that’s there. Slapping can be a limit to some subs and he clearly knew that slapping on the face was triggering from Chanwoo. You should never try to push past their limits because trust and patience is key.

Well idk much about that but all I can say -like I also said in my other comment- Chanwoo is like a kid playing with fire, unless he gets burned he won’t stop, but if he just keeps feeling the heat of the fire he won’t learn that flame is not a toy to play with.


In other words chanwoo needs something strong to shake him up and learn how to admit his limits. I would say MD is being the flame to burn him here, I don’t think it has anything to do with MD being angry or something or bridging their trust (cuz they have done worse than that, he even choked him) From the looks of it I would say this is an opportunity to make chanwoo learn or he won’t stop. The way chanwoo is acting looks like he doesn’t want that guy to be MD’s sub, so if he doesn’t want it he has to learn to speak up if u don’t push him that much chanwoo won’t learn from his hard head personality. So I wouldn’t consider that abuse cuz in their normal play I bet u 90% that chanwoo would not hate the slap, the only reason he would right now is because he feels MD is favoring that ex sub over him.

totally agree with you

Right. Tbh if MD used a whip (that hurts 10 times more than a slap) I know people wouldn’t be complaining it’s abuse this much. I just think a “slap” rubs them the wrong way. It’s like a girl punches a guy stomach and everyone laughs it off as her trying hard like “it probably doesn’t hurt the guy (it probably does cuz it’s a punch to the stomach) but when she slaps the guy they all call it disrespectful, her being a bitch and whatever.

Again, regardless of if that’s a kink for him it clearly wasn’t the time for him to do that. If your sub feels uncomfortable and you give a ultimatum to them to make them do something, that’s no longer Dominating it’s manipulation.

they use abuse too much and I think they lost the meaning of the word abuse. I hope Chan will learn his lesson and stop playing with fire. until then I won't feel sorry for any of them.

Ahaha I really don’t have any negative feelings towards any of them I just wanna know where this story goes and want chanwoo to FINALLY LEARN HIS LESSON. But I think we have to wait couple of chapters for that T^T and everyone thinks MD is venting his frustrations on chanwoo because he got rejected, but I think not.

you right cause we actually don't know what MD is thinking at all. so it only their guess they count on, which can be a hall of wrong so ╮(￣▽￣)╭ and it's not that I "hate" or "love" them either, I just don't care at this point when happening to them. especially Chan.
it kinda fun not to feel any sympathy for once and the characters are not totally insane, makes me feel free in a way.

Lmao I get what u mean

I just wanted to say I TOLD YALL SOO

Two* wish it was one ;-;

Am trying to ease the torture on my brain so am considering May already over and since we are already in June (my brain says) it is not to be counted thereby it being one month of wait. Ahhhh my logic is just too good.

Wishes that will never come true... ┗( T﹏T )┛

Ye but it’s coming out near the end of July lol so it’s almost exactly two months