If I read another comment saying "I hAtE tHe PrInCe" I will truly flip a table. After all this chapter you are all saying the same thing as chapter 1. The story is progressing, characters are developing, even Aristia is a whole new person. The only thing that isn't changing are your comments. If Aristia is able to look over what happened in her life, why can't you reader do it too? Expecially because Aristia doesn't know that the prince now loves her, while we readers know that the previous prince and the new one are 2 different characters. We don't even know if he was manipulated by the other girl. I love Cardein too, but could you please stop hating the prince?
I made a comment about the prince being a completely different person towards the beginning of the webcomic and I got torn down :( 72 dislikes and 4 likes. People are ridiculously stubborn.
Yeah, I was here in the beginning. The comments back then were horrible. I get the outrage in the first few chapters, but their outrage now is so stupid.
I understand your frustration but the circumstances surrounding the prince’s actions towards Tia in her previous life were unquestionably vile. He treated her like dirt, physically abused her, raped her, humiliated her while shoving the empress’s duties on her lap so him and the “heroine” could enjoy themselves. He drove her to madness with his one last stunt, where he threatened to kill Tia’s father if she didn’t lick his boots. She did and he in turn told her that it’s already too late. He drove her actively into a rage and used this as an excuse to execute her with a gleeful expression in his eyes. Tia was not some villain who treated the empress with disdain, tried to kill her or threatened the thrown to justify her being killed. He had power over her and terrorized her on his own volition because of his inferiority complex towards her. Of course in the new timeline he has not fully become the sociopath we know, but that begs the question of what would it take for him to treat her like this once again. He only starts to change because Tia wants to get away from him, is deadly afraid of him and lets it show. That is all that starts the change in him. Because she doesn’t want him anymore. And if he’s so easily influenced by this, who can say he won’t be influenced against her later on by something similar mundane? What would happen if she lets him know she loves him once again? Would his passion dim? If she becomes his queen once again, she will be powerless against his orders. What would happen when the “heroine” finally appears? Would he again be swayed once again? The depth of his darkness doesn’t just disappear because Tia went back in time. I get why you are annoyed because we’ve seen the prince “change”, become softer towards her but it needed Tia’s disinterest to start and make him think about what kind of person she is. He treated her with active disdain because in the old timeline she was an emotionally private person and acted older than her age. He hated her because she was praised for her accomplishments. He hated her because she didn’t remember her mother after being traumatized by having to witness her death. We see him promise her mother on her deathbed that he will take care of Tia. He broke that promise because Tia suffered from PTSD and became emotionally cold on the surface. The prince has a very changeable character and is influenced by every change surrounding him. He’s not steadfast and that makes readers worry how true he will remain. Of course the “heroine” manipulated him. We see it in the old timeline. She approaches Tia, they are having an amicable conversation and the empress starts to cry for her family. The emperor pops up and antagonizes Tia, and the empress never actively clarifies anything. Tia confronts the empress about her duties in a respectful manner, and the latter runs to the emperor tattling on her and probably embellishing the story. But he’s not really better. He overreacts to the extreme and doesn’t care to stay objective because he uses every excuse to make Tia’s life a living hell. There are some spoilers.................................................................that suggest the Prince was given hallucinogenic drugs to influence his mind more against Tia and make him suggestible to feed the distrust and dislike towards her, which I guess is a kind of acceptable excuse. But many readers are not privy to this info yet. They can only judge what they can see. And the first impression was so terrible that it makes people question why he wouldn’t become like this in the new timeline. Sorry for this long comment(￣∇￣")
the way i wanna give this a thumbs up but cant find the icon,,, not liking the prince completely for tia right now is still valid as what u explained and thank you for that
Again, that’s him in the first timeline. You can’t judge someone for what they did in the past if they’re a completely different person in the present, especially if they are aware of the pain they caused to someone/people and won’t do it again. That’s what we’re frustrated with y’all. Y’all won’t separate the present Ruve from the past Ruve. We would definitely side with you if Ruve was still being a piece of shit to Tia. But, he’s not. Since Ruve knows what he did to Tia and is treating her right, then why are y’all still shitting on him? That says more about y’all not letting go of the past and not moving on. “Ruve humiliated her, raped her blah blah” this webcomic clearly says it’s a historical, tragedy, psychological webcomic. If y’all were expecting the webcomic to be all sunshine rainbows , then clearly some of y’all have been reading too much fluffy shoujo webcomics. If Tia can see present Ruve in a different light and let bygones be bygones, then why can’t some of y’all do the same too? Honestly, some of y’all’s outrage at this point is so ridiculous. If anything, it sounds like some of y’all didn’t make it past chapter 5 or something since y’all are screaming about “oh how horrible Ruve is” even though it’s been over 100 chapters. Smfh ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I reread your comment, and I realized that you were talking about the other readers and not you yourself. So, sorry for the first comment. However, my comment is still targeted to the other readers who won’t let go of the past. Ruve is not a saint, but it’s been over 100 chapters, and people have to let the past go or drop the webcomic. Also, I find it very interesting that some people here hate Ruve but give Allen a pass of his twisted behavior.
Lol. I was a bit shocked at your first comment. But please don’t be too harsh(づ￣ ³￣)づ. I think the problem lies in how the artist wrote all those chapters. The first 7 chapters were poignant, tight and so precise with portraying the tragedy of Tia that it gave extremely strong impressions to who those characters are as people. And then the story drifts off for over 100 chapters, languidly showing us Tia deal with her newfound situation, making friends, changing her outlook etc. We see her breakdown because of her trauma caused by the prince. And because her trauma is so closely tied to those strong first chapters, it leaves an even more unfavorable impression on the prince. Within those 100 chapters we see the Prince change slowly in little ways further away from this horrible person we were introduced to. The problem though is that it never actually really focuses too long on him, and the kindness he shows now is spread too thin to give a strong second impression contrary to the first one. It doesn’t tip the scale in his favor because it’s a too weak representation of him being decent. So objectively speaking and disregarding the spoilers, I’m not surprised people revile him. I didn’t read the novel so I’m not sure if the author brought it up sooner but I think the artist should have planted some details by, maybe chapter 45 or so about a mysterious mind controlling drug being discussed in the background of the story. This would have made things more ambiguous and gave people a lightbulb moment to question if he was drugged and(⌒▽⌒) how much in control the prince actually was when he started treating Tia so abhorrently. It would have made people more open to his new scenes where he is softer and more approachable. So for most people, what they see atm is a young man who’s 7 years away from killing his wife after abusing her for a prolonged period of time. It’s not made apparent that he was drugged in the webtoon, and after over 100 chapters no hints were given that it was anything else but his own Will that made him treat her so badly. He’s changing but that change was brought on by Tia’s behavior. And this reason is a little flimsy, as easily another reason could appear that sways the prince into a different direction once again. So people are puzzled as to why he’s the ML at all. The artist needs to move it along and give us a flashback to the Ruve from the past and his point of view. We need to see the power this drug has. Also, I think it would be clever to make someone give the prince in the new timeline this drug, to portray how strong it is and how it can change this more decent version of the prince who became more privy to social intricacies and objective, into a puppet. That would probably have more of an impact than those thinly spread out bouts of kindness within 100 chapters. Allen is a scary person and wants to control Tia like she’s a doll without her own mind. He’s not too far removed from what the prince was in the first timeline. Only difference is that Allen’s obsession is geared towards Tia so it makes her save for the moment. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to lock her up. Right now, even disregarding the spoilers, Allen scares me more than the new Ruve. Allen is a person who would kill the people Tia loves if they got in his way of obtaining her. At least that is the vibe I get from him. He doesn’t love her like a person but like an object he desperately wants to acquire.(⌒▽⌒)
Lol thanks. The artist needs to introduce those spoilers and tbh she waited a little too long and didn’t even give a hint that the prince wasn’t in control after all. So why would people assume after so long that there was anything more to him then being easily manipulated against his wife he felt inferior to. I hope we don’t have to wait until chapter 238 when all is revealed. I want some hints introduced into this webtoon, because a twist doesn’t work as a clever storytelling device if you never even planted any ambiguous hints about it. It would just come out of nowhere. The only real hint I’ve ever noticed were that in the first seven chapters the prince’s eyes were blackish and he had major bags under his eyes. But that could have also been an artistic choice to portray how Tia sees him as this scary oppressor. Gosh, when is the “heroine” popping up I wonder. I would be interested how she interacts with everyone, as it was majorly hinted at, that she’s a manipulative person.
So, I was thinking while reading the chapter that Tia is partly to blame for the rumors (please let me explain this concept before disliking).
We usually analyze this stories from a modern point of view. That means that to us titles, rich ceremonies and court stuff in general are strange, we don't feel comfortable with them and neither we like them when they regard the separation between classes since we believe in equality. In our opinion spreading rumors about Tia is wrong because they have no proof and they are just slandering her.
However, let's immerse for just a moment in a medieval or just nineteenth-century mentality.
Here we have that social classes are common and it is common knowledge to be respectful towards the ones who have a higher title than you. So the fact that Tia and her father don't take in consideration the duke's title is extremely disrespectful and out of place. It is normal for us, but we should contextualize it. We can't expect that changes happen in a night, even in our real history this mentality took centuries to be replaced with the modern ones.
Now, let's talk about the rumors.
Why did they spread? Because Tia had enemies. However it's not just for this cause, it is also due to how she behaved. If she hadn't let Allendis be so close to her in public these rumors would have probably taken more time to be regarded as true.
I know that "we shouldn't care about what others do and we shouldn't talk bad about them", but, again, think about it from a nineteenth-century (or previous) point of view.
She is going to be the empress, she is going to rule a country and she will have to have good relationships with the courtesans otherwise they could oppose her. For a ruler it is inconceivable not having his/her court's respect. She needs to prove them that she can be trusted and acting so close with a man who isn't her betrothed isn't a good starting point. Even in some modern society it's shameful for a woman and a man to be close.
Please, remember that I actually prefer (obviously) our modern views about this stuff, but I'd rather read the character's behaviors in a historical way because I think it is more accurate (even if it is stilla shojo) and that sometimes we should separate what's objective and what's subjective.
I just like analysis that aren't based simply on readers fast reaction, but on some deeper thoughts
Preach
Even in a modern sense I think their behavior is way off. Tia is ignoring her fiance completely then goes into seclusion with visits of other men that she cares for. Then she takes a job that's obvious she doesnt intend to commit to the engagement. In a professional business gala you shouldn't have a public shouting match with your obvious enemy/competitor like she and her father did even if the Duke is in the wrong him self (a house who lost power and is called after tia and not before, to see the king). This reads more like a person whose never got into politics or work in corporate settings where there is current real world experiences of take downs with just rumors. Ha ha, we haven't improved much :)
I mean saying that she is there lover just for adding sugar in there tea before they asked is toooo much...no? And she doesn't want to be an empress and she knows how to act she was a woman that was trusted in her previous life and to add prince is one to be blamed for ignoring her even more (in previous life at least) and she know that if she wants different ending she must avoid him...and for me a person , a girl who is super open and close to most of her friends as much as to know (boys) which porn they prefer and be there bro that they tell almost everything it is really funny why rumours spread... The and sugar really?? Nothing better?
I feel you on that, I think it was just easy to point to the sugar incident because it shows just how close the MC is to them. She not only knows their preferences but also caters to them in a loving way. To her its friendship but to any other person that totally looks like intimate actions that a lover would go out of their way to do for the other. Though, I agree with not having better content to base the validity of this rumor, but like... cmon. Firstly Allen immeeeediately went to her place to propose when there was the tiniest possibility of her family splitting away from the imperial family and then Sein who should've kept his distance found himself visiting her everyday for no reason. So yeah, to others she is basically considered a married DC woman just not given the title or having gone through the ceremony yet. They're engaged and she is working to break that, but it's not official and no one knows but their parents >_>
Excuse me dear readers, is there someone who is patient enough to explain me this last chapter? I don't understand what's the matter with souls, million of years and attacks
It left his body and went to the upper realm.... the same place his friend went to after his wife healed him....
To further explain, the couple is being attacked. Lewis made the sword formation to defend them, and this formation has the same lifespan of a star (the attack will last a billion years). In other words, they can't be attacked. This sword formation is defending their bodies, while their souls are going to the upper realm- a mysterious realm where gods dwell.
Oh thank you(⌒▽⌒)
Oh but don’t forget, the swords also stop them from “running away”. Basically, leaving, so they might actually die if the MCs soles are away for long enough. I think anyway
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Ok I think I need to re-read it because I apparently didn't understand anything
when I don’t really get something I just keep going and work it out as I go. Or hope I can work it out as I go. If it doesn’t really come up again you didn’t need to know it.
Or at least that’s what I tell myself
I must say that the advisor's move was quite wise. From a strategical point of view it's perfect and I honestly think that if Yona had a bit of political knowledge she would agree with it.
Don't get me wrong, as a reader I'd rather see Yona and Hak together, but if I were a Kouka citizen I'd be happier like this. It works better for the kingdom.
Naturally It would work only if both rulers had the same power, otherwise Yona's power would be suppressed and Kouka would lose an important piece for its growth. That means that something must be done to make the advisor lose his power. In fact I think that So-Won would agree to make Yona indipendent. Two wise rulers ar better than one.
Two wise rulers on the same side are better than to wise rulers who oppose each other
It maybe true.... but previously So won said he has had no interest in the dragons rather supress them if necessary.... I think they will try to kill the dragon by ambushing them....
Not likely since now Kouka people know by word of mouth of the soldiers that the dragons fought to save them. It would cause dissenters and So Won is clever enough to avoid that situation.
On the other hand if he let the dragons live he could say "Yona, I keep them alive, I let you free so that all of you can go and save the kingdom, but let's become allies and sto antagonizing each other"
So both Yona and the dragons would be neutralized from his point of view and they would be free and happy
But not Yona ..... she has to live with her fmfather's murder and it is clear that nobody wants her in the palace... and I think advisor has his own motive too
Everyone is blaming Allen, but from my point of view it's papa's fault. In this way he stepped into Tia's privacy. I know that everyone loves her father, but no one is perfect and this time he was in the wrong. Tia has the right of having male friends, Carsein, Allen, whoever it is. Allen hasn't done anything to hurt her and cares about Tia, so there is no reason not to make them write to each other, apart from the fact that she is going to marry the prince. In any case, asking her before blocking Tia and Allen's letters would have been the best way of acting as a father.
If someone doesn't agree I would appreciate if they commented back instead of putting a dislike
I feel like Allen is being very possessive
Not that I completly disagree, since I also didnt like papa doing that stuff behind Tia's back, but at the same time he is right in what he puts in the letter, altho the context that the author put is really ambiguos and cant tell which time they are, it's obvious that it is like in the past, and for women having male friends was seen as something wrong, some nasty rumors would fly like her having affair (we all saw in her past life that rumors were one of her biggest problems) so I think he is not that in the wrong for asking Allen to put some distance... instead Im really worried about Allen's mental health
Papa is trying to save his daughter from a yandere
There is something I don't understand. Why do people hate the prince from "The abandoned Empress" but like Caitel?
From my point of view it should be the opposite. I mean, Caitel killed I don't even know how many babies or people in general, while the prince made life difficult for Tia and killed her but in his previous life. In this life he is "almost" sweet and caring for Tia, he doesn't even know he has ever been evil, while Caitel knows and has is bloody past on his shoulders. Why do we hate one and love the other? I don't think it's right
That’s because Castiel killed unimportant side characters with basically no names and no emotional attachments. The prince killed the main character who we had to watch suffer and work hard only to suffer some more and then die horribly. The difference is the portrayal and that is huge. Just because Caitel is a horrible person he really isn’t portrayed as such in any of the chapters visually. He’s described that way and everyone acknowledges it. The prince however is shown as being terrible to Tia but is generally described as being well loved regardless. So there’s the feeling of injustice there as well.
so true that is the main reason
Not to mention he intentionally torment her. When he told her to kiss his foot to beg for her father's life, even though he had already killed the father. He wanted to see her suffer and that was really cruel.
I don't hate him all that much now bit i still get pissed off then i remember that scene and i kinda start hating him all over again
Plus, Caitel has never been horrible to Ria, even though at first he was only tolerating her after deciding not to kill her, he's never mistreated her and came to cherish her pretty quickly despite him being oblivious to it. No matter how horrible of a person Caitel is to the rest of the world, he loves and cherishes Ria and Ria can't help loving her dad back because he raised her with love. Since the story is told from her point of view, we can't help but have a soft spot for Caitel as well. Same with Tia's prince. It doesn't matter if it was in Tia's past life, we saw how horrible and despicable he was to her. Going back in time doesn't make her pain and suffering go away. She still went through all of that and we as witnesses of it can't like the prince that easily. Stories are written for us to sympathize with the main character, not with some random no-names
Also I would like to add to my previous statement:
When a dying woman (that you liked/crushed on) BEGS you to take care of her 6 year old daughter it does not include the following:
Neglect
Emotional and verbal abuse
Being treated like a villainess
Burdened with extreme workloads
Torment
Rape / physical abuse
Tossed aside
Cause a miscarriage (through the stress of all the above)
Murder her father
Execute her after making her kiss your feet to save said father
And this all happened because she was what? Cold? Because she didn’t feel like could express her feelings because of her position that everyone expected her to be perfect?? Because of that she was somehow not human to him so he hated her because?? Why??? When all she did was love him and do her best to be what was best for the country as an empress should be?? But some dumb hoe pops out from the sky and all her years of effort and hard work are thrown out the window and chopped up by a guilotine.
Thinking about it all over again is making me sooo angry I can’t even.
Preach
The prince is the one just becuz the nowhere jumped out gurl that hatred, killed the MC
I'm so angery >:^(( *swears to the prince*
There is a big difference, They prince at the abandon Empress hated her and killed her because of jealousy. Caitel turned bad because his life and family were harsh and tried to kill him. Caitel's life was very pitiful
Nine is cute, ok, But I want Yuri to end up with Melissa.
ahh so many dislikes. it seems that no one wants a lesbian ending, sad ╥﹏╥