seemed much much better when I was younger.
I don't agree with you. I have (not too bad) mysophobia and even in a lower state, this is a terrible and disgusting "solution". what the "doctor" should have done if he was decent, instead of what he wanted because his patient was super vulnerable,, would be to maybe down the line try going with cooking, baking, to make him use his hands. maybe try some pottery or plasticine. there are a lot of things out there that one can do with their hands that don't involve sexual assault and abuse (cause yes. that did happen. and yes. he was raped by a person he trusts). to add to that, he will never be "cured". things will just be more manageable, but it's fine and normal for there to be relapses, there just needs to be a lot of care and patience (even more from a wannabe doctor). plus, the subway is indeed disgusting, but a good way to work around that is to walk with alcohol gel and tell yourself "it's okay. I can clean my hands when I get out." etc. to add to that, I think falling in love is natural, and it could have been a super nice story, but instead. we get this fucked up mess that's trying too hard to be seen as a cute love story with "messy" characters. btw ! your last statement was fucked up and I think you should be aware !
Well I didn't say it was in any way an appropriate solution, because it wasn't. Originally the mysophobia was an extention of him hating himself for loving his father in that way. It ended up becoming an imprinted habit to stay away from anything dirty, but at the same time he thought himself as the most dirty one. The seme wasn't wrong when he realized shiratoni had those hidden desires that caused the mysophobia. By the end, the seme himself admitted that in his own darkest desires, he kinda didn't was shiratoni necessarily cured. That's part of why he ended up leaving the field once his own doubts about what happened to the first guy he liked got resolved. Like that chapter in his life needed to be closed. He knew he was no nice guy from the beginning. Meanwhile shiratoni being as he is, he is so shut-in that he's super gullible and at the same time stubborn. It took forming a friendship with soemone to trick himself into getting treated. He didn't take seriously getting better even until it felt like he was doing it for the sake of someone he cares about, which imo is sorta fucked up in itself. Yeah it took a nasty turn, but what I meant by in my last sentence was that shiratoni is so stubborn that it was gonna take someone personal to him to even get him to consider the notion of getting better. A lover ofc is always the closest of personal you can get so it's a very effective motivation. Ofc, all in all, he could have gotten a lover in a wayyy more normal way in the first place with more patience instead of with the piece of shit seme. If you take the fucked up seme of this story out of the equation, my point stands. Unfortunately, he had to have gotten close to someone who ended up taking advantage of him which is sad. At the very least, by the end of the story he is starting to learn to love himself and then the story makes it seem like despite kinda resolving the issue over his father, it would be a long road to him getting unused to thinking the way mysophobia has you think. Much like how anorexia works, first it's for control over life or feeling like you need to fit a mold etc, and then later even if those core issues are being worked on, it cam take a while to actually rewire the brain to eat normal meals. That's what I meant by him benefitting that much from getting a lover, though I wish it had been a far better person he got close with. His heart can finally fully move on from the 'dad he loved' trauma and start anew as he slowly works at being ok with dirty objects around him etc. I do understand how my last statement sounds, but just as this manga was messy, truly some poeple end up only getting better after a messy start whether it was ok or not. Should it have happened the way it did with the shitty ass seme? No. But at least he has a reason to try now, especially because he has other friends around him he probably wants to have more experiences with.
fun but simple story,, I really enjoyed the beginning of it the best. the main is super fun to follow but the other guy did have some attitudes towards the end where I was just like-??? is this the same guy?. especially about the positions in sex, like- I think it's funny how he reacted at first (since many shippers do have an unreasonable need to protest about who enters who? which I, as a gay dude, find ridiculous,, everyone can switch. it's no big deal.) still- afterwards I felt like the story would have had a breakthrough if both actually talked and he apologized. this scene happens at the end of love stage (which has multiple other issues but still-), where the top feels threatened because the bottom wants to try to top him. but eventually, after other people talk to him, he understands that he felt like if he did that he would be less of man. but he doesn't want to think that way about him or his boyfriend. and he loves him. so he does end up bottoming and that scene is really cute.
went on a tangent cause that whole plot point in this manga did start to piss me off as it went on. plus, I think they did lose when they stopped even mentioning otaku things after a while, and only focusing,,, on whatever they focused on?? pff. we could have seen some cool and sweet moments. imagine one of them wants to do a duo cosplay etc waah- cute.
plus, I think the story could have been better with a lot more flashbacks of them as they grew together. we could see how important their bond was from the start, instead of being told so, etc.
this is such a classic and you can understand why (plus, it gets bonus points for being among the firsts to do this type of plot (at least well)),, such a good story, with great characters (except shino girl,, she just pisses me off and disgusts me. if there were more to the story that could change a bit but unfortunately it is what it is).
I always love to reread it.
great great one. oh how beautiful it is to finally be loved after such a rough road. (and that sentiment of being glad to be born as they are,, is so beautiful) + I heard it's supposed to have a second volume and let me just say. I hope sui continues being happy. if anything else happens to that boy,,, siiiiigh











YACHAN MADE A MOVE ON TOONO TOO !! let's gooo. I really don't want to see his or kashima's heart,,, break.