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wouldn't that just save us all this headache uwu

They also give him poison that make his go mad like a drunk he didn't even like the empress people do change she made him see stuff he never seen before and seen her point of view (⌒▽⌒)

So... You see nothing wrong at the fact that the heroine was given debilitating PTSD and endure such brutal abuse only to have her magically overcome it enough to start pinning for her past abuser AND make her have the more character developpement and take the more actions of the two to suit better the taste of said past abuser? It's not the end game that is problematic. It's the victim blaming and atrocious treatment of abuse and trauma. It has nothing to do with readers favorite's pairing not being end game.

Also, the whole story is about her still being in love with first Ruve, not about her falling in love with new Ruve. It's why she blush, ask herself if they are not fated after all and wonder if he care about her even a little even before the comatose state when he showed her only hatred and she had no reason at all to believe that he was going to change. We are not saying that it is a "abuse victim comes back to her past abuser story" because Ruve is the end game but because Tia is the only one to actually make the most efforts and action of the two, that she has no reason to love him at all before starting to pin for him, and we are getting no reason to believe that he would not have neglected her all over again if she has stayed the same. If Tia did not have her entire personalitty changed and there relationship was actually given new grounds, this story would have been a lot less distrubing. However, he is not the one who helped her overcome her trauma (Allen and Carsein did), he only caused troubles for her and they did not even start by being friends since he switched to "I hate her" to "neglect" and then immedialy to "I want her after all".

And thus, she is not fighting to not love again, she is actually fighitng to not gave him a second chance. There is at that point only three possible explanations to her fellings when she should not have them in the first place: they are fated by God, so her being a pionner is a lie and she was indeed a puppet of Vita, Tia was brainwashed by the Empress's education or they is absolutly no reason for her to love him beyond physical attraction and it's very disturbing when one side was an abuse victim and the other his past abuser. Choose your poison...

There are spoilers in the comment if you wanna see both sides of the story. Don't like it? Drop it. You have some psychologist skill, ok. And, Tia DID try to go away from the prince, but if you're reading stories like this, you SHOULD know that a family with a title has duties to the royal family. Tia decided to inherit the family title, but there's still responsibilities attached. And if you read in the beginning, Vita's fave child is Jieun, and Jieun supposedly ends with the prince like a fairy tale, but Tia is attached to their strings.

AGAIN, if you don't know the whole story. Better read the SPOILERS. Vita doesn't like what happened in the first timeline, gives Tia a chance, and she did TAKE that that chance. LOL.

Also, this is how the author would like to tell the story, so stfu you're reading it for free anyways. Then, once you see Jieun, you'll be like the others here, who goes crazy mad saying she should be gone. Lol

- I do know the whole story since I forced myself to read the completed novel to make my own opinion. Just because we are not defending it does not mean that we are dedicated trolls.

- It's a comment section. Everyone have the right to react to the story and make critics. His purpose is literally to allow readers react and debate on the story. As long as we are polite and not insulting there is nothing wrong with that. You can ignore the comments too if you want to.

- The responsability argument is nonsensical. Not only she could have fulfilled her responsabilities as the heir of her family, but it also show that you are in fact the one who did not read the novel. Because, spoiler alert, the reason the previous Emperor and Second Ruve did not force the wedding is that they could not force it in the first place. She could have refused the order without any repercution whatsoever from the Imperial family and, since the noble did not want her as an Empress either because of her fertiliy problem, from both political parties. She could even have become the heir without plaiding the blood vow of her family, so not that much under controle of the Imperial family after all.

- She was attached to Ji-eun, so what? It's the whole point of giving her a blessed name with the ability to change and make her own fate. What Vita did had for consequences to link Tia to the crown Prince and then making her go through the worst possible fate one can imagine. So horrible in fact that even Vita realized that he screwed up and took pity on Tia. And what does the rest of the story show us? That she was still in love with at the beggining of the second timeline without any basis whatsoever and him clearly acting as an antagonist. And since he did nothing to actually make her care for him, we can only conclude that the only reason she got back to him was her feeling from the firstimeline or they are fated after all. So, her "pionner name" is a lie and it's a "victim go back to her abuser" chinese type of story.

As someone once said in the comments,
This author should stop trying to appear that they're capable of handling serious, dark issues when they're utterly incapable of doing so. What's the point of Tia getting abused, raped, humiliated for YEARS if she is to fucking fall for her abuser? That too without him being a changed person, the only changed person here is Tia.
You could have said that, Tia could become allies with Ruve 2.0.
But a lasting romantic relationship with your history of trauma that you experienced firsthand? Excuse me? It's not even portrayed in a negative light but "UwU I'm falling for you again UwU"

What's the fucking point? If you can't comprehend how trauma or redemption works, why do you even attempt it? And stretch it like this? Stick to the dumb rose coloured shoujo stories instead of trynna play with themes like these. Ugh.

Miss me with your "don't read if you don't like" bullshit. This is extremely annoying

He kind of knows though, not sure if he believes it but he has an idea... I mean he read the letters that green hair sent in response to Aristia telling green hair about her past. (=・ω・=)

Drop it then lol. Go and complain to the author. People like you who complains a lot, but reading free here in mangago ILLEGALLY should just STFU. Go the original website and complain there.

Just because you can't think of a reasonable counter argument does not mean that you should switch to another subject altogether and become agressive you know. To answer your comment:

- You are on this website too, so the high moral ground is not really convincing.

- The part on the purpose of the comment section still stand. Every day readers on Mangago makes positive and negatives comments about what they have read and debate on it with each others. Why should this one be any different? I would put my feet down if we were insulting each other, but that is not the case. We are only debating on the story by using the storyline and what we understood of this work.

- Who told you we did not? And that we did not pay for at least a part of the story? A reason why I am so pissed off is because I wasted credit on tappytone for that. Even after learning about the ML I trusted the author to actually come with a good reason for his behavior and why she should still send up with him. And then I got my hand on the novel and realized just how bad the execution was. Granted, I should have seen it coming from chapter 30 since she was already in love with him back then without any basis. But the major problems like victim blaming and enormous plotholes only came way later in the story.

ITS YOU WHO CANT HANDLE HONEST OPINION HERE ON THE INTERNET.

YOUR DEFLECTIONS DOESN'T MAKE YOU LOOK ANY LESS OF A CLOWN.

FYI, the legal website doesn't even have a comment section, so you need to stop being retarded and STFU.

Let's act like the mature ones and not make it personnal. He or she is entitled to her own opinion, as long as he or she respect freedom of speech.

i think its absolutely HILARIOUS that you guys r having a little push and shove in the comments lol but like yuhh we're supposed to dislike ruel so its whatever, just idk, the repetitive slander on ruel everytime a chapters up...like just ignore him or stop reading? (oml i cant explain but i agree that the author cant handle srs issues also the storys gettin a lil boring) hes supposed to be unlikable so dont let it bother u. we can like write fanfics bout MC n the two side guys if we rlly wanna LOL

hahaha lol, true about that push and shove. I was reading their arguments. XDD! It's entertaining to see both sides. In a way, I agree with both of them. So I can't pick any sides.

I mean idrc if yall hate Ruve or not but it's absolutely pathetic how you're attempting to change and overrule each other's opinions. Opinions are supposed to be for discussions not arguments just for the sake of proving one's superiority in comprehension bah-hah

What are you talking about? If you want to go there, I can as well say that we one who did it first were the mindless stan of this story. They were attaking others for not liking the story, bellitled those who could see the early signs of where the story was heading to and then hidden behind "How dare you when you did not even read the novel". And now they are all mad because their excuses don't work anymore since we did read the novel and the manhwa have catched out enough to see just how badly the execution was done. And guess what? We were right after all. Case on point: Tia is sent into a comatose state because of trauma and Ruve lashing out at her. Then, at their very next meeting, without absolutly nothing in between, she is all fine and talking flowers with him. You do realize that the last time they saw each other he clearly showed that he was heading the same path than the fist timeline, right? Even if the trauma was magically cured she still should be cautious of him and avoid him like pest.

I saw your comment by the way, saying that our review is "misleading" and that they should go read the spoilers. So tell me, who is trying to impose his own view without even bothering to listen to others point of view and presenting a satisfying counter argument to our critics? We are welcome to debunk our analyse with actual arguments you know. That is, if you can.

Um okay? So you've chosen someone else (me) to be the recipient of you yet again stating your perspective (which I didn't even ask for) in an pursuit to express your "logical reasoning" and dissatisfaction with the story. Been there done that. Idk why you even bothered when I didn't reply to this just to read the same kind of conviction all over again. Also why are you getting pressed? lmao

And idfk what you're talking about. And if I actually did do whatever tf you're claiming I did then water under the bridge (〜￣△￣)〜

"That is, if you can." Proud arentcha? Must be a boost to the ego thinking you can win an internet argument. I won't bother cause it's a waste of time and I don't plan on converting anyone through reckless reasoning.

If my reply offended you then for the sake of decency I'll apologize. But you really gotta cool your head cause reading this right now just feels like a desperate attempt to divert your anger and frustration to someone else. And I'd rather not get into some feud with strangers just cause the other party's having a hard day.

I apologize too for the last part of the comment since I confused you with another person. I don't know if you made the same kind of comment, so for now it does not apply to you.

For the rest, debating is literally the point of a comment section. So you can't be suprised that others are felling attacked when you post just to call us pathetic for expressing an opinion. That goes for the readers who liked the sory as well as the one who disliked it.

And at last, it's not reckless reasoning when it is based on facts and an analyse of the storytelling. You are very welcome to point out flaws on our analyze you know? We are not hating just for the sake of it. The "if you can" was because until then all readers who brushed away our point of view were completly unable to actually make a good counter argument without resorting to sophistory and victim blaming. However, that was not adressed to you personnaly but in reaction to what the other person I confused with posted.

Why are you telling ppl to “stfu” there only sharing there opinion of the story. (●￣(ｴ)￣●) but I do agree with you that this is the way the author would like to tell the story but sometimes it’s just frustrating ya know

That was a lot to comprehend, but for the most part I kinda agree. Because the father has been having dreams of the past I think it has made him a little more aware of his daughter, but I will be very pissed if cossette(I think that's her name?) Comes and he still takes her side.(though if he does, seeing him proven wrong will be very satisfying) Also, about the character haters, I think the author does it on purpose, like they make the protagonist and the antagonist and while everyone hates on the antagonist, they never know how they became that way until the author shows their background. Though ofc there are a few vain and aggravating antagonists who don't even have a valid reason for their cruelty other than they can do whatever they want without repercussions, but even then it can be because they just want attention because they were neglected when they were young