I love this fucking artist. One of my first yaoi manhwa/webtoons, Lover Boy. So fucking nostalgic. Imma go reread it ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Not to mention their sex scenes are hot asf
*picks up his life* Eh. I dont care for his 'story'. He got our girl killed. *throws in trash*
Hmm i dont get ppls problem. He went to the bar to have sex.... and he drank, so obviously he wanted to have sex drunk to keep his mind off things... it wouldve been rape if (1) hyung was asleep, (2) hyung was drugged or forced to drink, or (3) hyung didnt want sex. But no, he went to a gay bar with the intention to have sex.
Also guys, if you go to a bar where 99% of the customers are looking for sex and you DONT want sex, dont drink.
If you want to go to a bar with only the intention to drink, go to one where people aren't looking for one-night stands or go with a trustworthy friend.
Dont be stupid like in the dramas. Stay safe.
Nothing in this has rape at all.
Honey you did end the comment with a good point that people should be careful but everything else sounds like what rapists say after raping drunk people
Drunk consent is not consent
even if he went for the intention of sex, he was drunk when consenting so it counts as rape as he WASNT in his right state of mind.
Yep, finally a normal fucking person here jesus-
Ya
Agreed
keep in mind that he wanted to be drunk and have sex, that’s why he drank
even if he wanted to have sex, you still need permission to have sex but he was too drunk and wasn’t in his right state of mind so it doesn’t count as consent, therefore it’s rape.
Hmm i hate to say this but, IF it IS rape, then it is his fault going there in the first place. He went to a strange area with no friends around and decided getting drunk was a good idea. Thats the stupidest thing. Thats like a 90% chance someone is going to ask to sleep and in your opinion, get 'raped'. If so, I personally blame the hyung for going there and getting drunk when he knew exactly what kind of place it was, and his friend for telling him about the place and not even following him to make sure he is safe.
Also, question, if getting consent from a drunk person is rape, then wouldnt these bars be sued? For being a place of 'rape'? I dont think your logic is right... He went with the intention of sex, knew the type of person he wanted (beautiful and if they looked like the seme, bonus points), if they werent his type, he refused (this means that he was sober enough to say no), and found a person who fit it his standards and agreed to sleep with them. Although he drank, he was sober enough to know exactly what he wanted. Not rape.
Like i said in my original comment, it would be rape if the person was intoxicated by drugs or was forced to drink THEN consented. Its not rape if the person is sober enough to refuse and sober enough to know what he came there for then consented.
i agree with ur two other points except the first one, yes it was a stupid idea to went there, but what u said was the definition of victim blaming, if he was raped, it will NEVER be his fault, he was careless yes but blame the rapist for even thinking of doing it. just bcs he was naive or stupid doesnt mean he deserves to get raped or when he was raped that’s his fault.
Hmm the 'rapist' didnt even think of 'raping'.
And dont forget, this uke isnt the naive type, he knows exactly how horrible a person can be even of theyre handsome, but hes going to a gay bar to look for a one night stand. Yeah, a rapist is a rapist and they deserve to be punished, but the uke wouldnt even have a problem if he didnt drink. Hes not those innocent ukes, he has experience and he knows what ppl at a gay bar are looking for.
Sorry if it sounds like victim blaming, i even said in the beginning of my last reply that i hated to say it, but its the truth. If it was even rape (which it wasnt as the bar guy wasnt looking to rape someone nor is the seme as the uke wanted to have sex that night, and he chose a white haired guy) partial of the blame is to the uke for going to that kinda place and partial is to his friend who stupidly told him a bar, knew it was his first time at one, and let him go alone. You said that i said that " yes it was a stupid idea to went there" but i said that looking at your guys perspective that he was raped. It wasnt a stupid idea to go there becuz he went there for sex and he got it. (To make this clearer, if he didnt want sex, he is also to blame and his friend should be blamed as well with the rapist taking the most blame. But he DID want sex, so I DONT think he is stupid (but i still think the friend is horrible as its the ukes first time)
Honestly, i dont even understand why people would go to a bar in the first place without trustworthy friends (and without the intentions of having sex), as it always ends horribly. It should be basic knowledge school teach kids.
Anyways, im done explaining to anyone else who wants to reply. I think i made my point clear and if you dont agree to my many paragraphs, oh well, i guess avoid yaois with similar plots.
i said i agreed with u -_- and i thought ur first paragraph that i replied to u meant it in general, in this story yes the uke had the intention, but if someone have no intention to have sex and be drunk at the same time, dont blame them for going to such a place. that’s all im saying. im not talking about the story, im talking if it happens irl. and even if someone doesnt have the intentions of “raping” someone, they could have done so unintentionally by having sex with someone without their consent or they were confuse or some sort. r*pe isnt always done intentionally, sometimes they dont even realise what they’re doing is wrong.
Its cute and everything but was i the only one who felt weird between ch 6 and 7? Like, it seemed way too fast paced and they couldve been separated longer and thought more about their relathionship. It just seemed to jump weird and my heartbreak after ch 6 wasnt satisfied when the problem got immediately fixed the next chapter.....
Sameee, I was so confused. I thought there was gonna be a long time of separation where they start to realize their feelings. I honestly thought I missed a chapter or something
So what happened was he found a pice of paper dropped by the new teacher that said "this is ditry, i dont like gays, i have to stop, save me" or sum like that and then the new teacher went back because he noticed he dropped it and asked if the mc saw what was written and the mc said no. Then the mc went home and wrote a story based on what happened. Then they had lunch and the mc got drunk and blurted "its okay to be gay" and the next day, after thinking about it, he confronts the new teacher to talk about whether the paper was his because he thought about the paper more and if it wasnt written by the new teach then it couldve been wriiten by a student and it is unhealthy to be thinking those thoughts so the mc wants to know but the new teach keeps avoiding answering the question. While this is happening we are given a few scenes here and there with the student (in this chapter) and now we see him go home to a stranger greeting him. And the scene changes to the mc deleting the story he wrote (about the paper) (my guess here is because if it truly was a students sos, it would be mocking their troubles and anxiety to write a smut story about it). Then we get flashbacks (or his imagination) of a student getting mad at him.
Now my analysis of this is that the student went home to what could possibly be his dads new lover (from the sentence "dads eyes" or sumthing. My memory isnt that great) and he might like his dads lovers (hence the "its dirty, i dont like gays, i have to stop" note (IF this student is even the one who wrote the note, remember, this is just me predicting and inferencing)). Thats my theory of the note and its story.
And about the mysterious flashback (IF it truly is) i think he tried to help a gay student, but all went downhill and then the student began to blame the mc and now the mc wants to help this mysterous note writer and not mess up this time.
I hope this cleared some things up for those who are confused. (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Thank you good citizen
Also, anyone who has different theroies, write them down. I wanna know!
Wahhh you're a life saver
you saved me from brain explosion
To think, this is all just the beginning.....
yup despair cause we will see what happened all the way through the story which is good yet sucks
just because......
to think we're just starting the storyline we've been waiting..
I think we all know who the endgame is here! Im so happy! Everyone complains that its incest but its just basically every asian couple. Both black hair. Of course his sister had black hair but thats just what DRAWED his attention. And he only saw it as unique in the crowd of other-color-haired humans. Its lik, think if your brother/sister had red (im thinking of a unique hair a lot of people dont have in asia) hair, they die, and then a year later you see a person with red hair in the sea of black hair. Its unique, and reminds you of a dead relative you are still greiving, so you go talk to them. And then they are nice, smart, beautiful, and charismatic. I dont see any wrong in falling in love. And i definitely dont see incest smh. People just dont like him because he isnt the second male lead who usually takes the ml spot in these kinda manhwas.
you can like the male lead that’s fine but by saying every asian couple looks the same you are generalizing a whole race. it’s an extremely racist thing to do and asian people have spoken out about how they don’t like it. not to mention it’s just not true.
Ah yes. Racist to my own race when its the people who are saying ppl with black hair who love each other is incest. Smh. Read properly plz, i never said it was that way, i said that was what OTHER PEOPLE were concluding. Smh x3
And im pretty sure asian people have never said that because it has never been seen that way until now. Smh dont make stuff up. Bet ur not even asian
the thing is that no one was saying it’s incest because they’re asian apart from you. the asian thing also isn’t correct not all asian people look the same and yet you avoided talking about that in the response. i also i take back the racist thing if it’s your own race and i apologize for saying that but you aren’t helping your statement either. things you say to the public can be harmful to a race regardless if you are in that race.
i also agree with you in the latter half of your paragraph where you talk about the hair color i read that and i stand with your statement. the only thing that bothered me was “Everyone complains that its incest but its just basically every asian couple.” asian race covers a broad spectrum of ethnicities that differentiates in looks.
I used Asians as an EXAMPLE because it’s something I’m familiar with. I don’t know how it is in America and whether dating ppl with the same hair color is considered incest. “It’s basically every Asian couple” is saying, people are complaining about their hair, but every single Asian couple both have black hair, and it’s not incest. I can’t believe ppl even read it that way.
And I never said it “was incest because they’re Asian” smh. It was more of a ‘if it’s incest, then why the fuck are Asian couples normal. Having the fucking same hair doesn’t amount to any kind of incest fetish.’ Stop creating a problem out of me saying Asians, when I’m using it as an example to debunk peoples stupid ideas. And “avoiding talking” about how Asians don’t all look alike?! When the fuck did I say they all look alike? Hair color? Yeah, faces? Bodies? Gender? Nope. Never said that. Never even MENTIONED that. I used Asians in an example of a bright primary color hair in a sea of dark hair. If that’s what you’re talking about, then go touch some grass, because it isn’t wrong.
And if we are talking about avoiding things, you avoided how you mentioned a problem that doesn’t exists: Asians getting mad over ppl saying they are incest. And another thing you avoided: you trying to be the know-it-all but you can’t even confirm if you’re even Asian. So you have no say in what an Asian person would and wouldn’t think. That’s like a white person on the internet trying to teach a black person how their culture works.
So yeah, I see nothing wrong with what I said, you were the one who read it and interpreted it incorrectly and decided to become defensive for Asians, to an Asian, when there wasn’t even a problem about Asians.
i see then thank you for explaining your sentence and example more thoroughly for me it seems i just misunderstood. i apologize if any of my comments came off as rude. ps i'm from the Philippines
Pft. Just watch the baby not even be his. He cheated on his wife and put all the blame to a child. Whose to say the wife wont cheat on him?