Youngwoon always hides his true feelings from others so it was refreshing to see him let out his anger and yell at Taegu.
YW is a master at hiding his emotions. Whenever we have Seo in’s POV, I have no clue what he’s thinking (but I do know since this started with YW POV).
Seo-in literally goes crazy because he has always failed to understand the MC’s feelings and intentions. Anyhow it hurts that YW always masks his feelings because of the abuse he went through. He just smiles and doesn’t let out his sadness, anger or desires towards others.
That’s why to others he seems simple, pure and kind but he’s really so much more complex than that.( I hope those who get close to him don’t take his kindness for granted)
They’re both so bad at expressing their feelings and communicating due to their past traumas.
YW used his smiley mask as a way to pretend everything is good so he didn’t break. And Seo in was basically trained by his mom to pretend everything is alright even when their family was a dumpster fire. (Imagine just pretending everything is cool while your house and world is crashing and burning down-insane!) However, unlike YW, pretending everything was good is probably what caused cracks to form in Seo in’s mental state.
This duality is amazing and I just love how two very different people come together.
Moreover, it seems like he has a huge fear of abandonment and revealing his deep feelings seems wayyyy too vulnerable and terrifying. His brain is in survival mode and so he does things to protect himself although his actions are very questionable and unsustainable (i.e treating MC like a disposable sex toy or letting others treat him like one). It’s also especially scary to express his love given that his brother trained his brain to think he couldn’t have anything and once he did, it would be taken away. It’s why YW disappearance broke him. It was the final nail in the coffin. I mean before they met again he was spiraling into this kind of depraved sex life he used to cope/self harm.
This trauma is why he deluded himself into thinking he hated the MC-he’d rather reject first rather than open up and be the one who’s hurt and rejected first. Especially when he’s already given his heart out once only to have it crushed.
Anyhow I don’t think it should take too long. Seo in is too weak against YW. I hope the healing together arc is a lot longer than the angsty getting together arc.
Ah it breaks my heart how they both didn’t know just how much they meant to each other. YW never moved on and Seo in mentally collapsed.
Anyhow that was my rant.
To anyone confused on whether or not Taegu is the second male lead and don’t want to read ch 21.5:
In the official Q&A, the English question was:
“Is Taegu Seo-in’s rival?”
The author’s answer was:
“He is, and he plays quite an important role in the overall storyline.”
In the Korean Q&A, the question was even more direct:
“태구 씨는 서브 공이 맞나요?”
This asks “Taegu is the sub gong right?”. Sub gong 서브 공- secondary top/second male lead. The author said yeah to this question.
Also if you reread it the author already foreshadows
It and there are context clues one might have missed because why on earth would we think he could possibly be a love interest? Like, I thought I was tripping when I was reading the scenes between them.
Well, it's already clear from that interaction in the kitchen. Man's got that yearning
Don’t get me started on that! This manhwa is just too good at saying things without saying them.
Cuz after he sees the hickeys Youngwoon asks him: “what’s it to you if I’m seeing someone” and then the panels are of his backside with a white back drop. They are reflective. He shifts his head. Is he pondering, questioning or just plain confused?
Either way, these feelings are just starting to creep in. He’s probably thinking “huh this does bother me..why” or maybe he’s not even asking why at this point but just subtly acknowledges that it bothers him. Even if it’s only very tiny amount it’s still weird for him to care about Youngwoon seeing someone. After all why now.
(Like really, I’m wondering why now)
Ahhhhh I can’t wait for the devastating angst and guilt and pain he’ll feel when he realizes his feelings for him. Knowing he won’t ever have him or deserve him.
I’ve been hyper fixating on this manhwa all day.
We can tell but thank you so much cause I don't have enough braincells to do so.
It’s Jiho thinking he isn’t deserving of anything good that’s he’s so self destructive . And everyone thinks he’s also a pos, which is just reinforcing his thoughts
Well the author did say that from the beginning Taegu would be a love interest. Is it still shocking? Yes. I’m just trying to feel better knowing Youngwoon is an adult with adult responsibilities, body, face, voice. And the age difference is only 9 years. Taegu looks like an ahjussi so I can’t help freaking out. Plus he knew him as a kid. But like I said, Youngwoon is an adult…
Where did they say that?
Ch 21.5
I think you may be dyslexic nowhere did the author say he was a love interest all they said is that he plays a significant role so stop spreading misinformation
It’s no misinformation.
I have two points to make.
Firstly, that was mean and uncalled for. Dyslexia is a real condition that affects reading processing and throwing it out as an insult trivializes what people with it experience. It’s also irrelevant here-disagreeing with someone’s interpretation of a manhwa doesn’t require attacking their neurological health. You can make your point without going for personal jabs.
Secondly, lemme clarify things for you.
In the English version of the Q&A, the question was: “Is Taegu Seo-in’s rival?”
The author answered: “He is, and he plays quite an important role in the overall storyline”
Sure, rival here could be interpreted in several ways, but in romance manhwa, especially one that uses romantic undertones, “rival” almost always implies: “romantic rival” unless context clearly says otherwise. English translators don’t need to write “romantic rival” every time because that’s generally understood by everyone in this genre.
In the Korean version, the Q&A is even more direct: “Q: 태구 씨는 서브 공이 맞나요?”
This literally asks if Taegu is the sub gong- the second top in BL. The author answers:
“Yes, he is the sub gong and…”
서브-showing he’s secondary to the main lead
공-top/seme/attack
Even in the Korean question the questions ending was: “right?-as in she knew the answer but needed confirmation. The Q&A didn’t reveal anything surprising- it confirmed something the author had been setting up for a while. The author drew panels that held subtle tension between Taegu and Youngwoon. These drawn-out pauses are the kind of visual cues used in romance manhwa to set up a potential love interest. Recognizing those signs is part of basic media literacy: noticing context clues like tone, word choice and framing; spotting foreshadowing; and understanding when something is implied rather than stated outright. If you didn’t spot this tension between the two, the author’s Q and A removes any doubt about it.
Anyhow, you really should phrase things differently-you could really hurt someone. I couldn’t imagine having that condition and other people just using it as a way to slight others.
You told me in one of these chapters you never said anything about some korean q&a and also youre so fucking weird "he's an adult" like okay? He literally groomed him stop justifying pedophilia theres no excuse we're all grossed out about it and its clear Youngwoon doesnt want him and only sees him as a father or brother so im sorry that some of us were in denial while youre out here trying to justify that old gross pedophile liking the mc
Ok clearly you can’t read or refuse to because it tires you out quickly. Hopefully you can read all of this. Ch 21.5 HAS the Q&A. I gave you both translations of the question asking if Taegu is the ML.
I can’t reason with people who can’t string two logical thoughts together. But pedophilia is something very serious so try I must.
(Also I don’t ship them and again you failed to have any reading comprehension-google what that is). He is not a father figure. He’s a gangster with morally grey tendencies and morals. He did not do enough to deserve being called a father figure. He ignored the abuse and only helped him enough so that Youngwoon had the tools to survive with no parental support.
Look, I get that the age gap and backstory make things uncomfortable- that’s understandable. But calling Taegu a “pedo” is just wrong and shows a lack of understanding of what that word actually means.
A pedophile is an adult attracted to prepubescent kids. Taegu knew Youngwoon when he was a kid and the story never shows any romantic or sexual feelings at that time. Where does it imply this? Nowhere. This one sided attraction only starts when Youngwoon is an adult.
Also please read up on what grooming is. You’re using this terms but you clearly don’t know what they mean.
If you’re just using “pedo” as a catch-all insult for anyone with a big age difference, fine- but don’t act like you’re making some serious, informed accusation. It just makes you look uninformed and, honestly, kind of reckless with important terms.
Don’t fuck around with the topic of pedophilia kid. I don’t care if you’re just being emotional. Don’t. It’s a very serious and painful subject.
If you want to have a real discussion, maybe try understanding the actual definitions before throwing around loaded words.
Also you’re probably a kid. It’s usually kids that can’t wrap their heads around 9 year age gaps. It’s very normal.
Wow the amount of argumentative unhappiness in you is super strong. Lol
No im an adult that isnt into children like you are because this isnt about the age gap this is about him knowing him since he was 14 while he was in his 20s if you think that relationship is okay youre a pedophile.
Errrr ok? Congratulations I guess? I didn’t expect you to resort to throwing a tantrum and name calling. I guess this is where I say that you are right-I don’t want to hurt your feelings any longer. I didn’t know that my opinion would make you cry.
I’m going to disengage now since I think you’re just looking for a fight or to hurt someone’s feelings? I dunno I’ve never come across someone like you thank god. I’ll let you have the last word since you want it so bad but I’m not reading it.
Good idea in reality if this triggers them into such hateful comments they really shouldn't read it. I'm also pretty sure they don't know what grooming actually is if they're using this as their example just ignore em. You can't make people that wanna be hateful see reason.
LMFAO getting so hostile for what!?! bc you know there right ur weird and uneducated and clearly have to much of a ego and too much pride to back down when someone proves ur wrong (which is more embarrassing btw
Okay whatever pedophile keep away from playgrounds and schools
Yall are straight up pedos ofc yall are mad im not justifying it
Yes and you know well what it is? A grown ass man being close to a 14 year old boy when theyre not even related is normal to you? Yall are gross trying to justify his feelings he IS a pedophile and he should NOT be that close to a little boy IF he actually does have romantic feelings for him
Womp womp
Okay pedo
You' re a Kid? He's 27 Y/O Taegu like 36 it's very young Yeongwoon is NOT a kid anymore so...
Talking and caring for a kid doesn’t make you a pedophile…stop sexualizing and making everything weird. Taegu becomes a love interest when he is 36 years old and when Yeongwoon is 27 years old, he wasn’t waiting for him to grow up to date him nor he was attracted to him when he was a minor, don’t misunderstand.
He knew him since he was a kid having feelings for him even if he already is grown is disgusting stop defending predators
And the problem is that he watched him grow up if he only met him when he was a kid and didnt watch him grow up then theres no problem but yeah no its disgusting how youre defending this do you also defend Aaron Taylor Johnson's wife?
bro im afraid this webtoon is too complicated and mature for you if you think this. ur just like the others complaining abt how dragging taegu's backstory is when you didnt even pick up anything from it. i dont like taegu as a love interest for yw like the rest (too bad bc the author DOES confirm this) but calling him a pedo is just wrong. taegu isn't a pedo bc he didnt have sexual or romantic feelings for yw when he was a KID. he only started having those for him when yw was already an adult. what he felt for yw when he was a kid was sympathy (ironically, (im case you don't know why that is: it's ironic bc he's feeling bad for the kid of the man he keeps beating up for money)). an adult having a relationship with a kid isn't weird or creepy. it only crosses the line when the adult has ulterioir, sexual/romantic feelings/motives. you may be an adult but you're fucken immature (and maybe perverted) to think that every non-parent adult-kid relationship is weird. bYE!
Youre fucking gross for defending predators
If you reread what i wrote again you’ll notice that i’ve never defended him, i just stated the facts that occurred/are occurring in the story. Stop assuming everyone is a pedo or defends pedos just because you can’t understand the manhwa.
Well you quite literally are hes a predator simple as that Yeongwoon sees as a father figure or a guardian and you think that 30 year old man closer to 40 is okay to have romantic feelings for a boy he cared for like a goddamn parent? Youre fucking disgusting for even justifying it. HE WATCHED HIM GROW UP STOP DEFENDING PREDATORY BEHAVIOR.
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents have age gaps, right? Sometimes even 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults. Crazy concept, I know. Which doesn’t make em a pedo
He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid he only started to have interest in him when the dude was grown and he saw hickeys on him. There just showing us his backstory WHERE HE DOESNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS to give us a grasp of how they first met and how he felt sympathetic towards him bc he got abused and the development in there relationship. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think?
Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying, and still pressed lol, like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Rage bait because im not defending predators
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents, have age gaps, right? Sometimes like 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults even if they knew one another as kids or older teen. Crazy concept, I know.
And NO He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid, he only started taking interest after he saw hickeys on him when he’s grown there just showing us there backstory of how they met and there relationship came to be like how he felt sympathetic bc this kid got abused and the guilt he feels bc he didn’t do rlly anything to stop it WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS FOR HIM only now as there both grown btw since u cant get it in ur head. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think?
Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying and Still pressed lol like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait, you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents, have age gaps, right? Sometimes like 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults even if they knew one another as kids or older teen. Crazy concept, I know.
And NO He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid, he only started taking interest after he saw hickeys on him when he’s grown there just showing us there backstory of how they met and there relationship came to be like how he felt sympathetic bc this kid got abused and the guilt he feels bc he didn’t do rlly anything to stop it WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS FOR HIM only now as there both grown btw since u cant get it in ur head. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think?
Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying and Still pressed lol like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait, you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents, have age gaps, right? Sometimes like 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults even if they knew one another as kids or older teen. Crazy concept, I know.
And NO He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid, he only started taking interest after he saw hickeys on him when he’s grown there just showing us there backstory of how they met and there relationship came to be like how he felt sympathetic bc this kid got abused and the guilt he feels bc he didn’t do rlly anything to stop it WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS FOR HIM only now as there both grown btw since u cant get it in ur head. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think?
Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying and Still pressed lol like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait, you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents, have age gaps, right? Sometimes like 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults even if they knew one another as kids or older teen. Crazy concept, I know.
And NO He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid, he only started taking interest after he saw hickeys on him when he’s grown there just showing us there backstory of how they met and there relationship came to be like how he felt sympathetic bc this kid got abused and the guilt he feels bc he didn’t do rlly anything to stop it WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS FOR HIM only now as there both grown btw since u cant get it in ur head. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think?
Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying and Still pressed lol like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait, you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Lmao, you do realize a ton of grown people like our grandparents, even our own parents, have age gaps, right? Sometimes like 8 years apart. Which means, yes, one of them was an adult while the other was still a teen or kid at some point in their lives. And guess what? It’s still not weird because they got together as adults even if they knew one another as kids or older teen. Crazy concept, I know. And NO He wasn’t out here secretly eyeing him up as a kid, he only started taking interest after he saw hickeys on him when he’s grown there just showing us there backstory of how they met and there relationship came to be like how he felt sympathetic bc this kid got abused and the guilt he feels bc he didn’t do rlly anything to stop it WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE INAPPROPRIATE FEELINGS FOR HIM only now as there both grown btw since u cant get it in ur head. But you? You’re over here frothing at the mouth, tossing around “pedo” like confetti, completely killing the word’s actual meaning for real victims. Kinda telling, don’t you think? Also, you’re still reading this. Still replying and Still pressed lol like are we deaduzz I don’t care if I fell for the rage bait, you’re just chronically online, painfully dense, and honestly exhausting to witness.
Seriously tho if it's causing you this much stress reading this you realize you have the choice NOT TOO RIGHT?
You do realize if this causes you this much stress you don't have to read it right? If you do realize that than you continuing to do this means your just here to be argumentative, why not go protest about a real situation that isn't a made up fictional story. Your ridiculous and hateful and judgemental towards the people in this comment section. The only difference between you and them is they literally proved what through the authors words and story what's going on so far and you've just stated your twisted opinion on what you think it is and thrown disgusting names and accusations. Eww That's more gross than your take on this fictional story.
Boy literally talks to his rock and gave it a personality
Lmao, all that build up and suspense only for that to be the reason? Hilarious
Also he’s lowkey actually crazy. Not scary crazy but goofy crazy. Should get checked out honestly
The more I read the more I love Malcolm
He’s best bro
To anyone who thinks Sunwoo is dumb no he’s not. TT. He’s just normal. He was super wary and had his guard up until Sion smiled at him genuinely when they were studying together the first time. Any rational human being would be touched by a genuine smile. Plus my bro craves human connection, he didn’t need a reason beyond that. He chose to ignore Sion’s shadiness because of that vulnerable, raw, and very real moment they shared. And he wasn’t wrong. It was a real smile. Also he’s a normal person. He’s not aware that every person is trash and that as the MC he has the worst luck in that he keeps being surrounded by trash.
This is backed by the novel btw
He knew Sion was bullying, he knew what the group was like, and yet he didn't think twice about joining the oppressive side.
For someone who knows what it's like to be bullied, this was cruel of him.
Many people warned him, and Sion's behavior from the beginning was strange.
He's stupid, yes, and he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, but he'll improve.
I love Yohan’s kind of crazy
no like the instant test to call jun out on his lie, the secret photo taking, breaking his phone as soon as jun finds out about it
HES SO ME
Wym he’s so you helloo??
no like- in the sense that