Kazlur August 25, 2018 5:21 pm

Is most yaoi's so devoid of character that a character making a slightly different choice than you expect is a character change???? How can you tell it's a character change when you don't even know the character. Now this can be considered meta bc it's breaking the expectations of most yaoi readers. Wow, you guys need to do other things lmao

Kazlur August 17, 2018 8:03 am

Does this count as weird porn?

Kazlur August 17, 2018 7:34 am

Well the high school kid, 27 year old man dynamic is uncomfortable, but this one kind of make it seem like they are on an even playing field. Though this is kinda Illegal

    Jancf August 20, 2018 7:33 am

    Not kinda, it is lol

    babyblackturtle August 20, 2018 9:56 am
    Not kinda, it is lol Jancf

    well it depends where you're from i guess, in italy at 17 you're past the 'age of consent' so since he's the one pursuing the older guy it would be fine

    Ya Chan August 22, 2018 7:02 pm
    well it depends where you're from i guess, in italy at 17 you're past the 'age of consent' so since he's the one pursuing the older guy it would be fine babyblackturtle

    In germany I think it´s 16 or even 14 not shure. I think it´s 14 though...

    Atys August 27, 2018 4:31 am

    Pretty sure Japan's age of consent is 13.

    Kiki August 27, 2018 4:48 am
    Pretty sure Japan's age of consent is 13. Atys

    The different prefectures have different (and higher) ages for consent, with age gap taken into consideration. Japanese law, like any other, is complex and more nuanced than it may first appear.

Kazlur August 17, 2018 7:26 am

It's funny how I thought Xixi was gonna answer with my sister bought it for then I changed the panel and it's exactly what it says and im- I know him too well

Kazlur August 5, 2018 6:00 am

I used to be cool with this manga..then I grew up and realise words like "mom" and "wife" make me super discomfy bc it's upholding heteronormative standards but this is really cute I just wish it would portray an actual gay relationship instead of a straight one in the skin of a gay relationship so cute tho

    RenRen August 5, 2018 2:47 pm

    I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. “Mom” and “wife” here literally means who gave birth to the baby. Even in a female-female omegaverse relationship, the one who didn’t give birth is “dad” and the one who got pregnant is “mom”. Simple as that

    Kazlur August 5, 2018 3:59 pm
    I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. “Mom” and “wife” here literally means who gave birth to the baby. Even in a female-female omegaverse relationship, the one who didn’t give birth is “dad... RenRen

    that's still heteronormative my guy. It could be dad and dad and husband and husband. There's no reason to say husband and wife when talking about 2 men. And what's yuri got. To do with this, it could be heteronormative too. Also the people who created this are straight and most people who read are straight girls. I'm a bisexual guy, who has done his research. So I think I know what I am talking about when talking about hetero norm.

    hedwing August 5, 2018 9:25 pm

    What I don't understand is why you're making a big deal out of it?

    Kazlur August 6, 2018 4:35 am
    What I don't understand is why you're making a big deal out of it? hedwing

    Cause it's annoying and damaging.

    Klementiini August 6, 2018 7:10 am

    I don't think a fictional world where anyone can get married with anyone and then have babies can be all that heteronormative, no matter which words they use. I'm pretty sure that the actual family dynamics are more important than words like "Mom" or "Dad". If I was in a lesbian couple and my partner had a kid, I wouldn't mind being called Dad. Sure they could use word "partner" when talking of each other.

    This manga is really wholesome and sweet. It depicts a fairly healthy relationship between the two parents, and the family as a whole is simply adorable. I wouldn't call it "a straight relationship in the skin of a gay one" just because of the words they use. If you take issue with them not being "masculine" or "realistic gay" enough, we could have a discussion about it. There are many yaois where one of the guys acts in a way that is fairly typical for a traditional shoujo heroine. This is not one of those.

    Also I'm a bi girl and I've read gender studies at university level, if we need credentials to discuss Omegaverse manga.

    Klementiini August 6, 2018 11:10 am
    I don't think a fictional world where anyone can get married with anyone and then have babies can be all that heteronormative, no matter which words they use. I'm pretty sure that the actual family dynamics are... Klementiini

    + as you said yourself, this is a sexual fantasy for girls. The point of yaoi is, more than depicting a realistic gay relationship, to exist as a fantasy. Like romantic and erotic stories in general, it's intended to excite. It's technically good if the relationships (whether straight, gay, lesbian or other) in stories we read are healthy and ideal, but some people just feel more titilated by more twisted stories. We go deeper in the realm of fantasy with omegaverse, which has the added fantastical elements of alphas, betas, omegas, pheromones, fated partners and mpregs. "Annoying" and "damaging" are words that can be used to describe pretty much any form of erotic fiction, and definitely omegaverse as a whole. So while it is important to have these discussions, you are making a big deal out of it.

Kazlur July 30, 2018 11:30 pm

He still like her. Oh lol.

Kazlur July 30, 2018 11:22 pm

MC is still a kid so this is kinda weird

Kazlur July 26, 2018 5:24 am

They had a fight, broke up and made up in one breath lmaooooo

Kazlur July 21, 2018 9:53 am

honestly does homophobia not exist in these worlds or something lol???? It's weird how the girl immediately thinks the two male leads are "together" after seeing them together for like 2 seconds. And for fucks sake can straight ppl stop comparing gay men's feeling to straight girls BC it's not the same and it's fucking annoying

    lovemaid July 21, 2018 5:12 pm

    I think she didn't actually assume that but was jealous that he was Kinder to him and talked with him more. That alone made her jealous, bc he didn't look at her.

    Jayjay July 21, 2018 8:29 pm

    Yep. I guess in some ways it may be speaking well of our own current emotional maturity that we find that girl's mindset so difficult to understand and foreign... I think Lovemaid is probably right; it's just that we weren't shown any scenes of the seme interacting with that girl at all, before her flirting blunder, and that may make her reaction to the whole fiasco look even less understandable at times.

    FrenzyFujoshi(> <) July 22, 2018 12:53 am

    Eh... No she didnt i think. Agreed with the first comment. Thats why she clearly said he cant understand her feelings (she assumed he didnt like him).

Kazlur July 9, 2018 4:41 am

art and proportions need a lot of work, especially the legs

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