All that effort to keep a child with all that talk of becoming a family. Then as a child he barely calls them mother and father. Then as an adult they enabled his horrible actions just to...get rid of him so they can have some "alone" time. As if they didn't have other people raise him.
I've read some manwha where shitty people are shitty but at least they're self aware. This one just falls flat every step of the way. I think I stuck around for the child raising but NOPE. They even managed to fumble that what the hell
absolutely they were not parents material it was a fucked up relationship plus this drug rape
This would've been hilarious but I just can't get over the whole father and son thing.
I sure would like to see a switch MC and their harem of tops and bottoms so I guess I'm stuck with Nukani for now.
What's Nukani?
lol, Taeju's been taking care of their baby at night.(Look at Taeju's eyebags and him deflecting). That's why Euihyun doesn't notice.
TBH I think they were going a overboard with disemboweling Charin. Like, dude was already gonna die having that rape baby on top of him dying in general eventually. But he got done extra dirty to give green haired guy additional angst? Nasty business
He really nearly beat two guys to death and Aeroc is no better being all "oh no you hurt your hand" nearly killing two other guys wtf. Rapiel was probably the only one who reacted with proper disgust
At this point, I think that Aeroc suffers from an extreme Stockholm syndrom... There's no way hes so blind to all this bullshit just because hes in love, especially after all the torture in his previous life. He felt guilty for hurting and killing an innocent person, but to take on all this hell while still being in love with that piece of shit... Not possible. Aeroc is not in his right mind and needs some loooooooooong and good therapy to get out of this shithole called Kloff, Klopp or whatever the fuck they want to call him. (No hate to the translators since the translation is great, I just hate this garbage that predents to be human)
At the same time, he is the only one who understand and accepts the ML that people like us cannot.
I don't know what proper reaction is supposed to be but thinking a person can feel that way towards an unlovable person is what makes this romantic.
Spoiler
Also there is another season where the MC doesnt remember but ML does and they regress and MC loved ML despite him going mad because of the side effect of imprinting from season 1.
Even him not knowing anything not like ML who gets dreams of the past here in s2
It’s not Stockholm Syndrome. They’re destined pairs. That’s why they’re both unavoidable drawn to each other and why Aeroc stands and adores the violent Klopp. In this world, destined pairs came go against the bond.
Can’t* no came lol
The problem is Aeroc is blind in this arc, he placed Kloff in this pedestal. He was like this beacon in that hell that is s1, I remember how he compared the assault from the men at the Bottom vs Kloff... He thanks Kloff for those rough vegetables.. and even when he being slowly destroyed, he still thinks it’s okay… I deserve it. In the novel he slowly brainwashed himself to cope with his dire situation, which is sad… he needs a lot of therapy.
In his eyes.. Clough is this man of justice, he wouldn’t do anything wrong. Just like the lynlyn said it’s an extreme case of Stockholm syndrome.
V5 the Aeroc who isn’t broken reprimands Og Kloff for hurting the men at the bottom.
Og aeroc in the novel was obviously scared of Kloff. He didn’t want to be in a relationship with him, when Kloff started pursuing him, he tried avoiding him. But he was never allowed to say ‘No’ to Kloff in world 1… he was so broken that he just submitted to Kloff’s coercion when he told.. you can’t say ‘No to liking me or wanting to have kids with me.’
It’s Kloff who needs Aeroc because of the imprinting not the other way around.. Aeroc can marry someone else and live his life without going insane.
It’s sad.. I genuinely wanted to see Aeroc meeting someone else, or at least tackling how Kloff and Aeroc would work things out.. because for me having a baby isn’t the answer. Kloff knew Aeroc had problems, instead of making kids.. he should have tried to know Aeroc and made him feel more secure in the relationship and understand his trauma and fear. Instead to make sure Aeroc was his.. he wanted a baby to seal this deal. As much Aeroc also wanted kids to see his original kids… he needed to heal.. that should have been priority num 1.
There's anime of this but it doesn't show dick or penetration. But when I checked the studio they make straight porn with all the bits.
It's Titan's Bride OVA all over again. The studio ends up being a bunch of men who go "ewww gay" but still want to make a paycheck so they compromised with censoring Yaoi.
So... There's actually have a version of penetration but you need to pay it?
For research purposes where would one find said version
Sorry if my rant didn't make it clear, but there isn't. The animators are men so they didn't want to draw two guys actually fucking.
There isn't any, sadly.
Ohhhhhhhh I get it sorry
Not gonna mention spoilers directly. But this is some PEAK Cyberpunk obscure late 90s/early 2000s manga but Yaoi flavored with needless pain trains because of the apocalyptic setting. I'm getting PTSD just from thinking that. man.
Why does this actually make sense
The uke reminds me of Eiden. But then again, he looks like most of Tanaka-san's protagonists so it's more likely Eiden and Nukani was inspired by Tanaka-san's works.
Which eiden do you mean? And which uke do you mean?
i think eiden from nu carnival i might be wrong tho
Sorry I meant to say the seme of this here yaoi, lol. He reminds me of Eiden. And yes as it's mentioned Eiden is the MC of NuCarnival.
Ah I see
Oh right, he kinda looks like eiden
I WAS STRAIGHT UP THINKING THE SAME THING!!!
The mermaid is giving a mix of Olivine and Aster, maybe even Morvay
waiitttt, i see the vision
I notice KR BL has MCs actually be gay rather than in JP BL where "I'm not gay but it's okay if it's you"
That's partially bc SK is more progressive than Japan is, but I think it's also that manhua is more popular now so most translated manga is older and more outdated while most manhua is modern
Japanese BL is surprisingly homophobic. There’s a significant lack of gay people despite them all sticking dick in man ass. It reminds me of elektal delusion where the ML was gay and super rapey and the MC was straight whose sister was a fujoshi. But she was actually homophobic to real gay men. She only liked it in fiction. In Japanese BL the most popular trope is “gay, straight, doesn’t matter. I love you for you” it’s like they forget the concept of bisexual exists. And when they do write bisexual characters they’re always massive sluts. Forget about pansexual. I’ve never even heard it mentioned in Japanese BL. It shows really outdated notions and tropes surrounding homosexuality. Korea is surprisingly more progressive. I know in BJ Alex the bottom was gay. The top was bi and the side characters I think were pan and bi? And in love so pure they even talk about the difference between bi, pan, gay, lesbian, etc. they’re actually gay. And bi and pan people are acknowledged and exist. It’s actually difficult for me to find manhwa where a straight man is like “I like you for you. Penis be damned!!!” He usually is like “I didn’t know I could sleep with men but I guess I can :3”
yea because japan is kinda... homphobic as a society in a sense and how they act in some way... I'm not saying it's dangerous
well lol i speak as if ive been there.
but yea i remembered a video docu about a bl manga that showcases how japan isnt exactly accepting (in like a real life scenario)
due to how they are and their culture. add to the fact that they are in general very private people not saying they're shy, theyre just reserved in things unknown) so such things arent exactly openly talked about and Public displays of affection isnt something you see often.
if you do want to express yourself or do some PDA it's in specific places like nichome or soemthing. and i meant it as like someone who's born there and the people around you aren't exavtly accepting
but i feel like as a foreigner you can do whatever just dont be rude or do something that bothers other peeps in public and they wont care about you. i hope people dont get discouraged to going there.
and i feel like recent generations are now more accepting i guess specifically in big cities like tokyo and not the countryside. you get the gist hahaha
basically they're tolerant but not accepting i hope my english is understood
also add to the fact that japanese is super slow in accepting something new (reason why they were able to keep their culture and architecture intact for a long time lol) that they are more into print media aka magazines and some companies still use analog technology (the cons hahaha)
fax machines, some animations still draw via light box and paper and they scan the paper
some mangakas still prefer the paper way with manually applying screentones and inks etc. before scanning everything etc you get the gist
...and all of the above might be the result as to .why fujoshi writers / mangakas are somewhat... narrow minded when it relates to lgbt stuff that they end up going for those specific storylines
so yea japan isnt all sunshine and rainbows cause it's like everyother country. they have their ugly side
but idk maybe im just making up excuses as to why they create such weird or bad storylines. lol
also if you're wondering about the manga that got a video documentary it's called
"my brother's husband" or Otouto no otto (mangago)
i cant find the video but the manga is here in the website def check it out cause it's made by a gay mangaka and the story is not like the ones made by a fujoshi or female mangaka
You’re talking about the gei comi artist Gengoroh Tagame. It’s funny that’s like the work all non-gays know him for and it’s his only wholesome work. Everything else is like…sexual violence, torture, rape, amputation, body mutilation, needles, cbt, castration, confinement, bondage, fisting, I could go on and on. It’s hardcore fetish content lmao. But he is a well respected and very influential artist, as much as Tom of Finland I guess. Gei comi (also called bara in the west but that’s not correct) is written by gay men for gay men but it’s all porn. There’s like 0 plot or romance usually. And it’s very much HARD HARDCORE. And not less toxic at all (but people in the west think it is because it’s written by gay men??)
His manga Otouto no Otto was I think serialised in a seinen magazine. And that’s the thing. Japanese queer literature isn’t found in the BL section or Gei Comi section. It would be categorised as seinen or josei and it’s really far few and in between. Only then can you find discussions about sexuality, queer identity, etc.
In saying that, despite what I said in a previous comment I wouldn’t say Japan or Korea is more or less progressive than the other country. Korea is mostly Christian and very homophobic. Japan is full of old homophobes too. They’re both pretty homophobic. Historically, Japan has been more accepting of homosexuality since male male relationships were common place for samurai. And I can actually find manga on being trans, born in the wrong body, the queer experience, etc. I can’t find any Korean manhwa like that. So….theyre sort of hard to compare without statistics. It could also be that they’re simply not translated into English.
Sry I should add I like gei comi. I don’t care that it’s “toxic”. It’s porn. It is what it is. I just get annoyed that ppl in socials say we should stop reading BL because it fetishises gay men since it was written by women and read gei comi instead because it’s written by gay men when it’s straight up usually hardcore fetish porn. And porn objectifies and sexualises everything. It’s the nature of the beast. What they should be saying is if we want to read queer lit to look in the seinen and josei genre but ppl just want to stir up a fuss. They don’t ACTUALLY care I don’t think
yea truee most of the time those that complain about it are just some kind of rage bait OR are searching up on the wrong content to give false info online
also yas love me some good ol gengoro tagame hahaha
opened me to alot of good af fetish lol
granted that the stories aren't exactly.. ya know healthy and just straight up porn they're still good to me tho hahaha
but it's true either way lots of asian places are very homophobic (but technically lots of places around the world are if you look closely enough hahaha)