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Yeah he’s 27 and she’s 27 i think. I’m not sure if they end up together though.

Nvm apparently someone sexually assaults her repeatedly... idk who and idc I’m not dealing w/ that

Sorry he (Issei) is 17 and she is 27. Sorry for the typo.

Its fine lol I read it as 17 anyway idk why

no one sexually assaults her. when she starts her job this dude tries to “help her change” and it was only in one chapter and then nothing again. so you should read it she doesn’t get sexually assault repeatedly and idk whose spreading misinformation -_-

Ok thank u but is this Issei dude the ML though? Bc some comments are saying it’s the big bro and I like it better bc idk its creepy if a 17/27 years old are dating eachother...

WHEEZE

Fr people are hating on her when she's also a victim. Sucks that she's too much of a pushover

but as said before, helena did take AND went along with everything while knowing she was wrong for doing so...it was her whole flashback.

mf OG eris was groomed to be a crown princess, she has no responsibility whatsoever to care about a snagging bitch. even though yall might say helena almost lost everything (emphasizing their 'noble status'), she chose that type of lifestyle whilst eris was not given that much of a freedom. why she couldn't live without sucking off the royal family is her problem. helena was allowed to act cute and dumb to please these pimp assholes but eris was not. the fact that her cute side was only known to her maids is already a proof as is. understand that standing on eris' heels (which the MC did) will not make you like helena.

now i dont like suck up bitches, but for helena, i might let it slide once. its for her survival after all, though its still not pretty. i just dont like how you tried to single out OG eris, when the MC has been trying to communicate how fucking misunderstood the eris is.

I believe they only singled out Helena because of the comments made against her. They're acting as if she's those "plotting actually evil cutsey innocent types" when in reality she really isn't. She's a pushover who let's people walk all over her, not to mention very naive

og eris was a villainess for a reason. a sad past does not justify your actions at all !!! (if u think otherwise pls stay away from me) take rashta for example, she was a manipulated slave w very limited choices and all she wanted was to raise her status, but those her slave background justify her actions? no.

and did you really just say helena chose that lifestyle? shes from a traitor family serving in the palace as a punishment. the men around her see her as a pet, a pretty plaything. she doesn't have any friends because of her family background (she's discriminated against) she actually LIKES WORKING and wants to do it but the CP will abuse or take out his anger on whoever makes her work. the CP doesn't even love her either, he constantly dismisses her opinions and choices, she's just like a pet to him.

i personally love both of them as they are well written characters but i hate og eris for that one line she said. "why should i care about your situation?" and im also claustrophobic so her traumatising helena aint it

def was not referring to them. helena's character is not that likeable so the hate she's getting is to be expected. i dont exactly agree with everyone in the thread either. helena is not plotting shit, true, but her uncalled actions were enough to drive someone to wish for death.

Well to be fair, OG Eris was being treated like shit by the crown prince and everyone else with no allies to lean on (her maid is an exemption). So I think she bullied Helena for attention and release all her frustations. Remember, OG Eris' frustrations was enough for her to decide to kill herself.

That's an enough indication that maybe she's not a bullying b*tch like you said but only an antagonized and isolated woman who felt cornered? I'm not saying this as an excuse of the OG Eris' actions, because bullying is bad... but I think she is a well written character whose actions makes sense.


Helena, on the other hand, I can't say much about her because there is only 1 chapter on her pov...but for now I think she is very annoying because her questionable actions.

Though my opinion might change in the next few chapters... peace out ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

for the last time OG eris is not a fucking villainess. the story is playing out inside a book, ofc it has roles assigned to each characters. eris was given the villainess role, that is after the MC took over her body. she saw and felt firsthand how eris was as a person outside the book, and claimed herself how she misunderstood eris.

to a villainess, one fatal flow would be her human values and compassion. eris has it all, but what's the point of a nice villainess? after all the plot would not move unless there's someone who would take a fall for our poor helpless heroine.

"a sad past does not justify your actions"" then make it as if helena's past does not count also. she acknowledges her actions hurt eris. she's not the only victim here. stop spouting things we already know, i put those into account after making my point :)

you say that they are well written characters when first and foremost, you called eris a "villainess", and secondly, you wouldn't admit helena's flaws as she is as nice as a person. she's forgiven eris (this will be tackled later on in the latter part of the LN), and mc also accepted her friendship.

helena was traumatized and OG eris was suicidal. NOTHING TO SEE HERE. and fuck you? i wouldnt like to be near you either

Oh no, I don’t hate OG Eris. At the very least she wasn’t a bad person. But Helena is just as misunderstood in the comments, she’s made out to be a villainess. So I just thought it was very hypocritical of them to hate Helena especially when parallels between her and MC were made. Not that they can’t hate Helena, but they reasons suck ass. Either assume you don’t have reasons or have good ones lol

I don’t hate OG Eris. And yes, her feelings and some actions were misunderstood. Though, locking someone in a closet isn’t something “misunderstood”. You can’t misunderstand bullying. It’s a blessing Helena doesn’t hate her. Because I would definitely hate it if someone bullied me because I kept getting unwanted attention that I have no control over. I can sympathize with them sure, but they bullied me. Not themselves. So this is about me, no about them. I am not someone, an object, to vent your frustrations on.
And I think what I said goes for most people. That’s why, the fact Helena isn’t doing this willingly is incredible. She’s an angel. And people are hating her for that.
Even if she did those things willingly, that would just be payback, “don’t do to others what you don’t want other people to do to you” is something OG Eris should have learned in this case. I’m totally fine if people hate Helena but all reasons suck ass. I do love both Eris and Helena though!! Sorry for the rant lol

by "sad past doesnt justify your actions" i mean it does not excuse what you have done. being abused as a child does not justify you becoming a mass murderer (totally unrelated to the story but) og eris being suicidal is NOT helena's fault. i already said i like both eris AND helena? i called eris a villainess because that's what she is,, she was made into a villainess by her surroundings and upbringing but that still makes her a villainess? i apologise if i seemed like i was trying to preach how perfect helena is how og eris will be nothing but a bitch. :/ neither of them are perfect, i already mentioned that i like them both as they are well written characters.

and fuck you too ig?? i only said ppl who justify abusive ppl for sad pasts should stay away, but ig you are one then.

I really like this thread right now ヾ(☆▽☆).
It's so interesting to read differences in opinions.
Seeing characters in different perspectives and angles.

I hope there will be an update soon ╥﹏╥ with many Helena's POV. The story is narrated through what MC sees (maybe the reason why others hate Helena) because she was depicted as naive and pushover and gets all the attention while acting clueless. Maybe that's also the reason why I find Helena annoying, I was influenced by the 1st pov storytelling. Others may also be anticipating some kind of plot twist and think Helena's being fake and not really an angel like you said.

I think all opinions are understandable.

Anyway, I love the story and the characters except that do*che Crown Prince, nothing can change my opinion about him. He is a lost cause
(╯°Д °)╯╧╧.

If anyone want to express hate, the Crown Prince deserve those.

i hope you're aware you've been contradicting yourself from the start?? you sound dumb like those pretty words will cover your lack of comprehension. you bring up trashta and tropes from other manhwas that are COMPLETELY irrelevant to our exchange. if we were to compare, trashta would be more like helena here, shitty past, shitty adults, dollying themselves for the people on top of the upper stratum,,, except that helena doesn't resort to petty tricks to save herself. and by mass murderers you mean those tyrant mls???? (cant believe im trying to humor your shit) what made you think eris is on the same footing as those cute pricks? at least the extras in their story loved them, at least some readers/isekaid fls symphatized with them. i say cute cs their level of depth as a character is cute compared to eris.

like i said, eris is not reduced to a character setting such as a "villainess". she's antagonized merely because she has a pretty face, good background, and engaged to the future sun of the empire so ofc this seemingly perfect person had to be rotten in the inside to fit the story. mc hasn't done anything villainess like to helena which was why she couldnt go back to her world in the first place.

oh no honey, im not pinning all blame on helena dear. did you hear me say anything of the sort? but she's not completely off the hook either. helena is a big girl already stop defending her from everything, isn't she not just a pretty plaything?

helana and eris are both victims of bullying. periodt. eris to helena, the royal family to eris. but since you're going to say that at least helena never wronged anyone then think again. she knew the empress hated eris for just being born and ofc knew she was being used to make eris' life a living hell. in her position, she couldn't do anything cs she was only saving herself. however, everything she's done up to this point made her want to die in the end buttttt go on cheer for her hoping for the best

ig ig ig oh shut up. stop branding people. you have no right to butt in here with your petty sense of justice shit. i suggest you check your facts first before pouncing at every helena hate thread you see. good riddance.

I will defend Helena ground to sky especially since reading the spoilers. Yall want empowering women when you yourself isn’t.

THIS!!! they switch up sp fastt istg. theyre gonna pity her after the manhwa gets to that point

ikr helena gets so much hate and for what??? she literally explained that she needs to act that way i order to survive

Ikr and Eris is doing the same too? Like she’s trying to survive until she can find a definitive way to go back?? While purposely taking on the villainess role? Both of them are acting based on how people except them to act. How do people not notice the parallels between them smh

also as someone who’s low key a pushover and a cry baby I can relate to Helena (〜￣△￣)〜

og eris and the prince are def similar. why do people try to justify her sm </3

We all know how 'healthy' he is