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Meant to upvote, sorry

Very much true... I hope the titan (seme) could have a convinient spell to shrink in into a bearable size that uke could take in so that he could release everything that is pent right up to this moment

Its fine

I wish it to happen in the future....cause really it's necessary...

I am happy that we do agree...uwu

yes Haesoo loves Jowoon

THE DOWNVOTES OF THIS THO LMAOOOOOO

Hehe!(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ Taku loves Heasoo too I feel like it but. Though it's toxic Jowoon x Haesoo bond is much stronger. I consider Taku to be better too but he is playing dirty

Do think love fixes everything?

If that happens, it will just be another story that encourages toxic relationships.

Encourage toxic relationships? A bit exaggerated and offending and shallowed. That's one. And I have seen your comment where you didn't have problem with shipping very questionable pair. Hypocrisy level hard.

It does encourage a toxic relationship though.

And which pair did I ship, because Ive shipped tons of people

Love shuttle. Doctor X alpha brother couple

Firstly portraying even a toxic ship doesn't mean you encourage such relationships. It's just a story. Not psycho-sociological manifesto.
This story can be about growing up, maturing, developing as human being, changes and overcoming obstacles.

They aren't even a couple yet lol. You guys keep complaining about how the Doctor raped him when in-fact we don't know for sure what happened that night. The brother himself consented to sex. Why did no one accuse Taehan of Rape when Doyun was in Heat. I mean he wasn't in the right frame of mind. Its so easy to blame alcohol on everything. Cheating, rape ect. Do I think rape is Right. ABSOLUTELY NOT. we don't know where the story is headed with the doctor and the brother. Haesoo and Joowon have known each other for over 10 years how long have the doctor and the brother known each other? Until the next chapter comes out we wont know for sure what really happened. Am I saying the doctor is an angel send from heaven? No. If the doctor and the brothers relationship turns out to be extremely toxic, I would stop shipping them but we dont know whats going to happen. Look how many people hated Joowon and now they suddenly love him.

The situation was really clear. Doctor knew that older brother could hardly stand him before being intoxicated, he purposefully got him drunk, the guy had problem with walking straight, bubbled thinhs he would never tell anybody while sober, was blushed etc
Person looking like that and acting like that = it's clear that they are not in the right state of mind and CAN'T give valid consent.
What's more he is a doctor... That's even more immoral.
They relationship is already toxic before going out. So it's rather a big red flag that they shouldn't go further. Doctor doesn't care about brother, he wants to make him miserable for his own excitement. Rather disturbing, don't you think?

And we can judge situation with alcohol clearly... Because we have alcohol in real life? With pheromones it always gets tricky.

Like I said it's easy to blame alcohol on everything. Pheromones or not the point is he still wasn't in his right mind. So are you saying because it's pheromones it would have made it okay. So if Dojun was an omega and he was in heat you wouldnt accuse the doctor of rape?

Pheromones affect both parties. Not only omega. As I said we don't have pheromones in our word so the situation is always tricky to judge.
Never ever sleep with person under influence. The guy was clearly drunk and was taken advantage of. If doctor would get consent before drinking then ok. But after: no, it's not valid consent.

So are you saying if someone has alcohol and has sex it's automatically rape? How do you know how much the doctor had to drink thou? When Taehan and Doyun slept together for the first time Taehan wasn't affected by Doyuns pheromones. He still had control of himself. And you still didn't answer my question. If Dojun was in heat and the doctor slept with him is that okay?

If they are in the state Dojun was they are invalid to give consent. Jeez. Especially that he isn't his partner (even then it would be dubious consent), they didn't agree to have sex before.
Firstly I am not fan of omegas verses at all. I don't like how rapy they feel. But it's easier to judge rather clear situation with alcohol than tricky one with phoremones we don't have in our lives.
If Dojun would be in heat and it was clearly shown that the doctor physically couldn't control himself although he wanted, it would be double rape because both victims weren't in the right mind. But as I said with phoremones it's harder to judge but with alcohol it's clear because it's the problem of our lives too.

We don't know if the doctor forced himself on Dojun. Let's see what happens in the next chapter.

He slept with him. When his consent wasn't valid. It's really clear situation.

Douple rape isn't real if you are using it in that context. It's only real if 2 people are raping someone. And like I said we have to see what happens in the next chapter

We know they slept together. When Dojun wasn't in the state to give consent. What should we wait for. And I was referring to omega verse circumstances which can't be even measured by our law because we don't have such things as pheromones. The intoxication on the other hand is rather clear to judge.

I know they slept together. But we still don't know who made the first move. They both drank. Do know how many people get accused of being rapists because of alcohol. Because someone regets it. Rape is a serious thing and should be taken lightly but unfortunately so many people lie about being raped. I'm not saying we should ignore people who say they have raped because that is wrong. Evidence is always needed. Rape is about control. And why would Dojun go drinking again with the doctor.

You seriously don't get it. It doesn't matter who did the first move. The guy wasn't in the state of mind to make consent and sleep with anybody. It doesn't matter. If your drunk friend wants you to strangle her/him you would do that? Even if he took your hands and started to strangle himself? No.
Don't sleep with intoxicated people, especially someone you don't know or who couldn't stand you before drinking period.

People have drunk sex all the time. Strangling someone and having drunk sex is different. How do you know the doctor was in the right frame of mind? They were both drinking. And like I said Dojun we t looking for him again. Even if he wasnt in the right frame of mind he still consented. Do you really think the doctor would have slept with him if he didnt. Anyways lets just agree ti disagree, this is a story its not real life, just because we see bad things happen in the story doesnt mean we are going to do it in real life. And if you do then you need help. Its so funny how people hate a character and them next minute they start loving them

One last thing, you keep talking abou how the doctor is a rapist. What about when Joowon forced himself on Haesso, they time in the car and the hotel and maybe other times.

I'm not the type who mix reality with life but we are talking about things which touch real life issues. Doctor didn't give ANY symptoms, in comparison to Dojun who gave MANY, to be even tipsy. People have different tolerance to alcohol. He knew the guy wouldn't agree to have sex with him before drinking. He took advantage of his state.
And why should I care what people do? History shows that big group of people is not always right.
He went looking for him again... Because it's yaoi? Yaoi which rarely recognizes rape and romanticises it more often than not? Because writting is not the best?

Majority of books and movies touch real life issues. Then I'm curious why are you reading this story. Because Joowon also forced himself on Haesoo many times. How do you know Dojun wouldn't agree to have sex before drinking. Like I said we don't know what Is going to happen in their story. There are worse couples out there.

Where did Joowon force himself on Haesoo? The only questionable scenes are blowjob in car and when he cumed inside against Haesoo's will. And we compare it now to the whole sex scene?
Dojun didn't like the guy. Doctor knew that. He should ask him when he was SOBER. Not jumping into first occasion when the guy is intoxicated. Seriously I'm getting tired of this discussion.

And you said they are CUTE together? How

And to be clear I don't say what Joowon did was good. It was wrong. But on the other hand I'm not the one writting over and over again how the one couple is toxic and calling the other one which is probably even more toxic...cute.

When did I say it was cute. Haesoo and joowon are way more toxic

You said doctor and Dojun are cute. In your comment.
I wouldn't say so. It's hard to compare decade relationship with something which barely started and is already extremely toxic. Non-con or at least dubious sex, one of the party: doctor whose main purpose is to make Dojun (who had already low self-esteem) miserable so he would see him cry. For his own excitement.

Well i mean they do look cure together regardless if I read the story or not, if I saw a picture of them i would say the same thing. Whats worse being in a toxic relationship for over 10 years or one that is recent. Love shuttle is a romance webtoon based in the couples hating each other. Yes he wants to make Dojun cry, he's a sadist but maybe Dojun is a masochist. We don't know what will happen in the story. Maybe the doctor will see Dojun cry and regret it and the wanna be better. Everyone has good and bad in them. You are judging a story based on about 2 or 3 chapters. Look how many people hate a character, without even giving the character a chance and then suddenly a few chapters later everybody loves that character.

I said already. I'm not that type of person. Just because author will post some fluff with character development which happened over night ... I don't buy it.
Dojun is a person with inferiority problem and low self esteem. The last thing he needs is to make him feel even more miserable and inferior. And that's what doctor wants to do... So he would make him cry. The fact that the guy is a doctor is distasteful. And as I said it's even worse that their relationship is already so toxic before they got together. Begging is the easiest, real relationship faces many more obstacles.

Begining*

Haesoo and Joowon relationship was also toxic from the beginning. Lets agree to disagree. Clearly we are going around in circles. If you don't buy it them don't read the story. How do know its over night? Like I said the doctor is probably a sadist. How does wanting to see someone cry mean you want them to feel inferior. The doctor isn't forcing Dojun to cry. Dojun cries when he has angry because he cant handle his anger well. The doctor didnt bully him and make him miserable. He just said he wanted to see him cry. The doctor was the only one willing to listen to him. Well anyways you will probably find away to disagree with me again and thats fine but I'm over this conversation. The doctor and the brother will be a couple, its a romance webtoon and there is no one else to ship Dojun with because love shuttle is not a love triangle.

Guys, chill out. We all have our own opinions.

Firstly I'm talking generally that I don't like type of stories where someone change over night. It was reply to: Look how many people hate a character, without even giving the character a chance and then suddenly a few chapters later everybody loves that character. I'm not that kind of reader.
He was willing to listen to him, the guy who said he feels inferior alpha and then he topped him. He wants to see him flustarted so he would cry. Someone who has already low self esteem. How can it be healthy? He doesn't care about the brother he just wants to see him cry for his excitement. He took advantage of him and the way he treated him next day was callous. He is arogant, narcissus and not sadistist, he is just plain asshole. Who ate alphas and threw them away for fun.

And yeah they are gonna be the couple. I have no problem with that. For me they are cliché, absurd, illogical and simplistic one and I'm not really into their story, probably will drop their thread. But I just found funny how someone can find cute and be ok with rather toxic pairing like that one... And hate all the time on the other supposedly toxic relationships in other story. Shrug

You are right

Because I can ship who ever I want. Firstly the omega verse isn't even real, so why are you relating it to real life whereas love and hate is nit based on that. Joowon and Haesoo are also very cliche. Also its two different stories. Im not gonna call the other pair toxic because of one thing, that we dont know for sure is true or not. Stop jumping to your own conclusions. Bye

Oh didn't you say you are stopping replying? But here you are~ The only thing different in omega verse are second genders and phoremones. We can without problem judge the psychological elements or taking advantage of someone who was drunk. In the last chapter doctor even said that Dojun was so drunk he had to help him to bed.
Joowon and Haesoo have interesting, complicated relationship. Shallowing that to cliché is just... Sad and offending to the author.

Well you did the same thing, lol. Y saying the doctor and Dojun are cliche And the author will always get good and bad criticism, thats life. You seem like someone who has to have the last say lol. The omega verse is still not real though, so I'm mot gonna judge it based on real life. Joowon also forced Haesoo into things, haesoo and Joowon are definitely more toxic than dojun and the doctor. And then Dojun said he wanted to have sex. He was conscious enough to male that decision. Drunk words are sober thoughts. So go head reply, you like having the last word.

*by
*make

You are laughable. You said it's your last reply and bye. And now you are putting in on me. You seem like someone who has to have the last say lol.
At least between Joowon and Haesoo are real feelings and between those two. One wants to bully the other to make him cry. And is in general asshole. I'm moved. Lmfao so what you can't judge psychological aspects in book because it's fantasy? What's this heresy even?
Omg after this "Drunk words are sober thoughts" absurd this discussion is seriously pointless. Educate yourself how alcohol affects nervous system before you starting writting this "wisdom".

The doctor and Dojun haven't known each other for 10 years. They aren't a couple, they aren't in love, its the beginning of their relationship, you cant compare one day to 10 years. And I reply if I want to. Drunk words are sober thoughts, because your guard is down. When people are sober they lie to protect themselves. Well anyways my ship is gonna sail. I just dont like Joowon and Haesoo together, i find them boring and energy draining and some toxic couples are more interesting to read about, for example Sangwoo and bum or even the couple from the painter of the night. Haesoo and Joowon are just overly emotional and melodramatic

Joowon is also an asshole, he even admitted it

I agree. You can't compare that. That's the point. And the fact that relationship at its beginnings , before it's even official is already so toxic is disturbing.
Alcohol affects you state of mind and logical thinking and other functions. It's not so simple, seriously read more about it because I feel secondhand embarrassment.
Oh wow, just wow, day that you are fun of Bum and Sangwoo or NK and Seungho and this conversation will be real clownery.
And the fact that you are even starting to compare them with these two examples is mind-blowing.

Oh wow just wow , say you are a fun*

You were the one who brought up the whole you have to have the last word and you said goodbye? Ok it's getting funnier and funnier.

Haesoo and joowon were already toxic from the beginning, anyways i find it funny how you feel the need to diss me in your comments lol. Im not comparing them, i just enjoyed their stories more.

Olay, okay you can gave the last work, you need it more than me, because you don't wanna stop replying either lol.

I don't need it. I just find this so funny because it's so clear you crave having last word and value your own option as the only right one and true above everything. Oh I didn't have so much time for a some time.

I diss you (?) because you start dissing me -
Newton's third law *shrug*. You seriously compare their beginnings? The only wrong (which is still questionable) was them going against their parents marriage but here we have guy taking advantage of a drunk and bullying his interest because he wants to see him cry.

Don't worry this will be my last reply. Firstly I'm thankful and sorry to you for a lot of things. The truth is I just wanted to fight with someone over the internet. I've been miserable for such a long time. So thank you for being the last person I can speak too and I'm sorry for being a Bitch. I agree with you and disagree with you on some points. Truth is I just like the doctor and brother couple. And I just don't like Haesoo and Joowon couple, regardless if they are toxic or not. I hate myself for being weak and selfish but I'm just tired of everything. Thank you and goodbye. I'm not going to see how the story ends. But I hope the ending is one that is happy.

I want to apologise. My behaviour was unacceptable, I should have been more polite, but I know I can get really arogant and passionate during discussions. I've dealt with depression and other staff over years so I understand. If you want to talk about it DM me or try to talk about it with professionals. It helps at least a little bit
You have nothing to thank me... Once again sorry. I still don't agree with some of your points but that's how it is everyone has different opinion and that's ok. Wish you all the best.

OP I have a request. This post became a spam and unnecessary argumentation. It would be imo the best to delete the whole post.