
I can ... I dunno I just feel bad for him. Yes what he did was wrong. Really wrong. But I think he really did love him... I think he got a girl friend to see hwo he would react and he didnt react at all.... He never reacted. He just smiled and pretended that nothing was happening. I mean if he was the uke and he was sleeping around and the seme just smiled and didnt seem to care you would all hate on the seme. Yes I feel realty bad for the uke. I mean Maki could have dumped him properly but I dont think he wanted it to end... I think he was still hoping. Which does make him a jerk when it comes to whis wife... Thank god hes faithful now . But I am glad the uke (I cant spell his name) found true love. In the end he never truly loved Maki... He was just there... I suppose he loved him but he wasnt in love with him. And I loved the last scene about the underwear. I think I'm going to do that to my fitire parter hehe. But I will write my name in them so everyone knows hes mine Jkjk... Kind of XD ... No actually thats a joke... I somehow would be pissed if my partner did tht so I wouldnt. Anywhoooo I liked the last couple. A breathe of fresh innocent air haha

I don't know why I pity him so much but I really do. Yes he was a jerk but I kind of understood his reasoning. Even if it was twisted. If anything the true victim was his girlfriend. Both him and the uke were way in the wrong there. I guess I've always been raised to understand both sides of the coin instead only one.

I wouldn't have commented if I didn't look at all sides first. I was happy the mangaka included that chapter. I agree on the person who commented below as well that the girlfriend had it worst. My lack on sympathy for Maki doesn't come from ignoring his reasoning. It comes from understanding his reasoning and not finding him helpless. The dude wasn't just being a plain jerk, he thought it out. That should grant him some credit,yes, but not pity. But since you've said you don't really know why you pity him then nevermind.

I was enjoying the stories and then the incest happened.... Well not quite but... Yes... I mean I wouldnt have minded the fact that they had sex in front of each other as much as I minded the fact that they licked each others cum from their faces.... Could you image how... Defiled you would feel if you did that with your brother? Nononononoon!! But the story before that was great haha XD

I have definition!(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Incest - sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other.
the crime of having sexual intercourse with a parent, child, sibling, or grandchild.
(●'◡'●)ノ So if they had been sexually intimate.. like fuck one another ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍.. then yes it is incest but there was non. more like exhibition (=・ω・=)

Okay so If I read this manga and I can understand it then what is your excuse people? Haha (I'm joking). My minds pretty... Jumbled so no worries if I do understand it XD. Welp Imma go read it now I'll comment again if I understand it XD

Got it.. I think
Okay so the seme was a twin but his twin got ill and died... I think. o he clung to the uke at first because he missed the twin bond but hten he got feelings of romance for the uke and after that.. I .. Uh... He was supposed to go abroad bt he chose the ukke instead of that... The ukes bestfriend loves him and possibly has a crush on the seme... I think that sums it up.....

Sounds mostly what I got out of it as well, except it seems like at the end he did go abroad but they exchanged photo messages etc every day and we're finally able to be together after the uke graduated because he said he would follow him. Best friend and seme have become close friends in a weird way lol

To add on to what the other person said. Beside Kamo still going abroad. The uke's bestfriend has formed a friendship with Kamo but no, he does not have a crush on Kamo.

So did that get anyones attention? Good. XD I wanted someone to talk with about this manga. I've read it and re-read it and every time I get this vibe that even if the uke/slut guy wanted to be faithful the past will come back and bite him in the ass...(Pun intended). So for them to get together they are going to have to go through a lot of trials.... Mainly the uke... And the seme.... The seme will have to say something soon other whys he will destroy the relationship before it even starts.... And if the relationship does start he will most likely have trust issues... And it's just. Because anyone would have trust issues if they new their partner was so.... Easy before them. I just hope that after all the trials they will have a happy ending. Don't you agree?

Ah but the trials are so unnecessary! He just has to let Doumeki love him!!!

I know right!! But it's also really sad... Ah the fact that its so realistic is probably what makes it even more tragic and amazing. It's not one of those where everything is solved in one chapter. It's progressing over a period of times which I really REALLY like. And yes... Please sensei let them have a happy ending ;_;

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I don't think this is about yahsiro (his name is yashiro thank you very much) being faithful after they get together. It is known by everyone that he is someone's required to give his body up for informaron plus he's got that whole cock addiction going on too. the very last thing on Doumeki's (the guy you refer to as seme) mind is faithfulness. He already trusts yashiro, will give his life up for him with little hesitation, the least of his worries are that yashiro will "cheat" plus, he already knows exactly what kind of sex life yashiro has, he walked into yashiro having sex like three times for gods sakes and he knows what it is that made him that way. All doumeki really cares about is being by his bosses side and maybe being even closer to him

I agree that D will worried about Y being faithful however as far as the addiction goes, all I know is if iwas impotant and I just got my ability to fuck back, I would fuck like crazy. In that sense I'm sure D will be able to satisfy Y. I think Ys body is going to change to fit Ds sensitive but harsh touch to where he can't have anything else but D. Also there's the love and the occasional plot twist. I am pretty sure Y knows he is in love. We really don't know what he will behave like when Ys love is reciprocated.

At the moment. Someone who is truly in love wants to know that the one they have is only theirs. But they also want to know that they're safe and happy. But based on Doumeki's actions. If you notice he gets less and less ... Uhm.. Not happy but willing to put up with Yashiro. He no longer stays in the room and he feels the need to .. Possess... Him once hes been with another man. I don't know it can be interpenetrated in different ways. But this is how I am interpreted it. I think if Yosh gives him self fully to D then D won't be able to let him sleep with other men... I don;t think anyone could. I'd pity someone who could to be honest. But I'd also be amazed at their willpower . And yes eactly! What you said "Even closer to him" What do you think will happen when that happens? You think he will be happy knowing his lover is giving his body to other men? You think he will be able to call him self Y lover ? He'd be one of many.... I don't think anything bad Of Yosh and I understand why hes the way he is but you can tell he wants to change and I know he will by the end of the manga.

I love the way you phrased it, "Fuck like crazy" X,D And I agree. Y knows hes in love with D and you can tell Y wants to change. And we can see it slowly happening. Despite the act hes putting on you can tell he is no longer taking any pleasure from sleeping with other men... As it says you may satisfy your body but it doesn't mean You're satisfied. And I don't know if you have noticed but D can no longer stay in the same room when they're.. Frolocking and he has started to be more dominant with Y as if showing him he belongs to him... Meh Maybe I interpretate things wrong... But thats what I get when I read this. That Y wants to change and that D is Getting even more possessive.

Hahah My thoughts exactly! Like everything you said I agree with. Doumeki has a way of blending some of the core elements that Yashiro likes, with a hint of passion. It's new and it's crazy and he's definitely going to get addicted. The way i picture Yashiro will become, it's kind of like weaning somebody off a drug. as you put in one of your comments D is trying to possess Y and I think it's obvious that with Yashiro, it is actually quite possible to possess him. just because he's having sex with everybody he's not unobtainable. Like in Tadayoedo he was definitely captivated and nothing else had his attention besides for Sensei. Thats why I say we don't know how he will react when his love is actually reciprocated he might become obsessed..... another comment below but Ill copy and paste.....
I think Y I will take D by surprise in hopes of trying to confirm his feelings for D. And then D will get hard and Y I will notice it. Shocked, Y will try to run away crying and confused but D will grab him by the arm and push him into the wall. And that'S all she wrote.

Yes Exactly!! Y is just lost at the moment but D will help him out of it... ven if it means Y getting Addicted to the D... Sorry I couldnt resist the pun DX Like he Y cant resist the D.... Okay no stop. haha . But I agree on how they will end up together but I also think that its possible Y will put on a slutty front and go, "Ho... So you can get hard?" And well ... Defile D until D gets out of the shock X,D And then D will well... Possess him XD. And maybe Y will cry at some point... Because face it hes had no ones shoulder to cry on. Everyone either wants to fuck him or to fear him... Or both ... Poor Y ;_; No ones ever wanted to love him like D has... D will be like a breathe of fresh air and I think D wil probably scare Y a little with how serious he is but Y will give in because we all know he loves him :3

Ohhhhhh those pesky puns lol. And also I noticed that Yashiro was fucking as a part of acting out Kageyama not wanting him/ his horrible childhood. But now he's fucking because he wants for Doumeki to fuck him but Doumeki cant.
Omg I love your scenario!!! Lol. Yes i would love if Y put on the slutty front and get more than what he bargained for! That would be hot! And Omg seeing Y cry mmmm that's hot! Omg I hope is that that happens. I guess we shall see. maybe nothing we hope happens will happen. Lol

You're a saddest aren't you X'D Not many people would think someone crying was hot haha but I've been classed as a masochist more than once *Sobs* Everyone fits into saddest or Masochist so don't worry ... Unless they're both 0__________________0 XD lmoa. And I hope they happen ;_;... If I am being honest I just want them to fuck and get together now we know D can now do it with Y so he needs to do it DX Lol. ... Wait He can now right? I think he got hard at one point and panicked slightly? Ah I hope he beats up some guys if they come after Y ... That would be cool or better yet Y beats them up and shows them that yes he may give his bottom up easily but he was actually the one in control all that time X'D Ah he would make D so proud jkjk.

Oh yes I'm sure when Doumeki is able to perform again, they'll be at it like rabbits most likely. It's something I'm dying to see! Lol hopefully Doumeki's love and devotion to Yashiro will be enough to 'cure' him but I know yoneda kou lives complex plots and twists so I know it won't be as simple as that, she lives to torture us >A<
And oh yea, Yashiro has never had sex with someone he cares about so it'll be very interesting to see when he does!!

Love* not live lol

Read what I said haha I said those are the "least"of his worries, I never really said he didn't care at all. I'm sure anyone would. actually, Doumeki hates to see Yashiro with others, not only does it pain him to see Yashiro get hurt during s play, he slowly starts to feel jealousy which is totally normal, even when he hears that yashiro and ryuuzaki have been getting it on for a while. That's why I don't see it as "not putting up with it" but I think it hurts him to see those things. Plus, he offers to get Yashiro off because he makes it known what he wants to do, what happens next is a great moment of passion we see from him ^u^ (even if he feels guilty later) of course people will have their own interpretations though. But what I mean when I say it's the last of his worries is that there are other issues present in the story that will take more precedence over that. The whole deal with hirata and ryuuzaki, Yashiro still being in danger of getting killed, all that good stuff, who knows if all of that will be resolved by the time they finally get together. It's hard to say what will happen or whether Yashiro will become 'cured' or normalized because I know yoneda kou is skilled for writing these complex emotions and character studies, I have the pessimistic feeling it won't be that easy ;n; and I also know that whatever yashiro wants, doumeki will probably go with it, to the point that doumeki almost seems like the submissive one (in a non sexual way) but hey I know we're both ready and looking forward to seeing what will happen soon (;

ALSO. Don't get me wrong, I wish for Yashiro to be faithful just as much as you do haha I'm just very skeptical of it happening so easily. This isn't the average bl uke/seme story after all

hmm difficult to say if hes gonna be really faithful. but i think the chances are big. since it seems like yashiro is so addicted to sex cause none of his partner can really satisfy him since he is in love with the sensei. so he wants more and more partners and wants them to hurt him cause he is hurting from the inside. at least thats how i interpreted it. i could be wrong of course. but since his first experience was rape and he wants to be hurt since then and calmed down during the time he was friends with the sensei at school but turned worse when school was over and they lost contact i really think he is gonna be totally satisfied with doumeki when they finally come at term with their feelings for each other.

This is how I saw it as well (Kindof). To my shame I forgot about the rest because It's been a while since I read it and I thought it was going to be a bad yaoi (I'm new to senseis work) So I kinda skipped some things out. Mainly the talking to the bad dudes and well having sex with them... I just felt so bad for D. But I remember most of the plot so it's not to bad XD. Ah again I agree with your comments. The likely hood is Y will be completely faithful by the end of the manga. If not he needs a bitch slap because D is giving him the opportunity he had been craving since that horrible incident when he was younger.... For some to love him and to cherish him ... And to well not make him feel like a piece of Garbage like all of his other, "Lovers" Have.

I've been told that I have Sadist tendencies. I would never believe it. I don't like inflicting pain but rather I like watching those who like inflicting pain hahah. But anyways. Omg so Yoneda Kou is not known for making her ukes cry. As you can see she likes drawing manly men. Yashiro is pretty in a sense that how a guy can have really soft features but not pretty as in looks like a girl. I think she would have Y beat up the bad guys, or at least, shoot them with the utmost precision. Lol

I don't think it will be love and devotion. Probably sex and more sex. Doumeki is the perfect type of person for Yashiro. Just what he needs. I noticed before they have even started Y thinks that D is overwhelming. So that shows that he's not really in it for the sex if you could be overwhelmed so easily by blowjob. But wait, he wasn't overwhelmed by the other blowjob... what could have changed? His feelings. if you ask me Y is already deep in it for D. he's totally gna get obsessed and then will start to think that it's wrong. I honestly think Y and D will unknowingly enter a casual sexual relationship. Before Yashiro knows it, all he's thinking about is sex with Doumeki. And now that you mention it, he probably will realize that while in this casual relationship, he hasn't had sex with anybody else.
one can only hope.

I dont like the last story.... I feel like wel... I just don't like it. I think it's so wrong to pretend about something like that and trick what we thought was a good man into something like that... I understand he did it because he likes him but still.... Most people if they thought that another person was being taken by their will and starved they would not have let another person sexually abuse them in front of them. .... Eh... Dislike this comment if you want but I'm just stating that good people wouldn't do that.......

One the guys changed throughout the manga and ony she stayed pretty much the same/// BUT what I rally want to know is- Who are the isblings and hwo aren't? I got bored half way through and skipped right to the end and i DON'T know if this ended in incest or what.

Lol omg i did the same i was like fuck this skipping to the end

I'm... Well I'm both the seme and the uke in this....
I'm very ... Well I believe in faithfulness ALOT however .... I .. I wont lie I'm the type of person that would FLIRT (I would never actually do any sexual things with someone besides my partner)
Just so I cold see my lovers angry face :3 I dont know I'm just weird that way...

You'll get stabbed one of these days leading others on...

Flirting is only a "lead on" if you are overtly sexual. I flirt with my kids friends...they are flattered and feel confident afterwards. It doesn't mean I want to fuck them. There are "levels" of flirting... 1. The kind you give a boss, co-worker, kids friend: Compliments on appearance; arm touching; eye contact; smile
2. The kind you use for close friends, acquaintances and strangers you DO NOT want to have sex with YET or ever: Shoulder, and hand touching; intimate but innocent compliments (not sexual- pretty eyes, body shape-healthy/buff (no specifics "You've lost weight/been working out"), smell of cologne); side long glance with smile
3. The kind used to get someone into bed: Combine 1 & 2 and add leg (thigh) and face/neck touching; specific intimate compliments; sultry eye contact; "chin down, eyes up & smile"; blushing; light kisses on hands or fingers (do not lick or suck- save that for bedroom)
Of course, there are other methods of flirting like laughing at or telling jokes. These can go either way - as flirting or not. This list is just a few basic concepts and does not include every possible scenario. Keep this in mind and you won't get stabbed! LOL
I was an exotic dancer and "house mom" for dancers for over 20 years. I taught girls how to consistently make their customers feel special. Step 1 & 2 will get you lap dances. Step 3 will take you to the VIP room. Before anyone gets their panties in a twist... NO, I DID NOT ADVOCATE OR ALLOW MY GIRLS TO HAVE SEX WITH CUSTOMERS. Relationships with customers were also strictly forbidden.

Eeek! No! A madam is the head of a brothel. My job title was "House-Mom". We were all just strippers - no sex with customers. When I became too old to dance, I stayed on to teach new girls how to do the job. Stripping is less about naked dancing and more about flirting and interacting with customers. A monkey can be taught to swing around a pole, but it can't be taught to be a classy woman. It was my job to teach my girls how to be classy, treat customers well and make money legitimately. I also made and repaired costumes, jewelry and accessories for them; gave advice and foot massages; handled unruly customers and kept the girls from doing dumb stuff like sex, drugs and fighting. I choreographed solo and group dances for shows as well. Gosh, I miss it. (⌒▽⌒)

Okay so a Madam runs a bunch of girls who slirt and then have sex... You run a bunch of girls who flirt but don't have sex XD You still both have your harem of woman haha (I'm joking XD) I understand. But sadly a lot of strippers sleep with their clients after hours even if you forbid it I bet it still happens. You can't be 100% sure.... Omg.... I just thought that if you had male strippers as well you should do a dirt dancing kind of theme once a month XD But then I thought that would probably be illegal some how XD And why miss it? You should still dance :)

A madam makes appointments for and profits from sex with her girls. I hope that sets me apart from a madam. LOL Oh for sure, they have sex with customers, not all, but enough to make the rest of us look bad. I actually worked in a co-ed / orgy fetish establishment in New Orleans. Guys and girls "performed" together as pairs and in groups. We didn't all dance. Some only put on sex shows. Each "show" had a theme - S&M, Sensual, Theatrical and Fetishes. I paired with a guy and our theme was "sensual" so we started out in a tango that ended in sex. No one was actually allowed to penetrate - they call it "sumata" in yaoi. Females also had to wear g-strings that were almost undetectable in order to keep their lady-bits covered. That was as far as we could go, we even had to angle ourselves so the audience couldn't see our genital areas. All the sex was fake.
I'm 45 now and I look it. I did all my dancing before 35. I would scare away all the customers if I got naked on stage now. Either scare them or blind them! LOL (≧∀≦)

I new there had to be something like that out there!! But I don't know why I thought it may have been illegal lol.. XD But yes you are apart from the madams out there XD And everyone meets someone through their jobs and well sleeping around I guess.. (Btw I don't sleep around... At all XD 17 and a virgin... And perverted X'D (Joke joke...kinda) But it does make your other girls look bad and in a way it would perhaps cause a really bad accident at the work place. Say one girl sleeps with a guy and he was the wrong sort then he came back and wanted sex from another girl and she refused so he resorted to harsher means (He would probability be delt with before then ) And nope. I think you could still dance ^.^ Everyone has preferences when it comes to body types and I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there would prefer a more mature woman... And the dancing sex thing sounds kind f scary..0_0 It would probably make good money though.

Your theories are correct. I've seen it happen and it's not pretty. It comes with the territory though. Being part of the adult entertainment world is only glamorous to outsiders. It will eat you alive, body and soul, if you aren't strong enough to handle it. I'm sure in a big city it might be profitable for me to still dance, but I live in a small town in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere Montana. If I saw 3 customers a month, I'd be lucky as hell. LOL I'm the type that won't get naked for just anyone and definitely not until I have cash in my hand. Even when I was young, that was my rule. I chose who I danced for, not vice-versa. Mostly because I couldn't put on a good show if I was repulsed or bored. My other rule was to NEVER date or have sex with a customer. I dated a customer once when I first started out. It was horrible. He was constantly jealous and would try to get me to quit daily. I was making $1000 on a bad night and $5000 on a good one. Why would I walk away from that? I NEVER dated a customer again. When I dated others after that, I always told them first, "I'm a stripper. I make incredible money. I will not give up my job for you, anymore than you would give up your job for me. So, if you want me to quit stripping, give up your job first, then we'll talk." Only one guy actually did. When I asked him how we were supposed to live if we were both unemployed, he finally understood the reality behind what I'd said. He was a bit slow in the head. We never dated. (⊙…⊙ )
The tango/ sex was actually incredibly hot. We even got standing ovations on opening night. It was all choreographed, even the sex, to fit in time with the music. We got a lot of compliments and lots of other performers asking to work with us. My partner even ended up with a long term boyfriend from it. Yeah, he was as gay as they come and a uke to boot!! LOL (≧∀≦)

Okay the minute you said your dance partner was gay I was like.. "That sounds hot not scary now", I dont know why haha. And an uke.. You luckky gal XD. And that much money.. 0_) I've joked to my mum before about becoming a stripper I have a feeling my jokes are starting to become more serious.. Jesus that is A LOT of money. I only need ne good night to go japan *_* .... Im to shy for that dammit DX. Other whys I would seriously consider it lol. Although I aren't very good at dancing. At least not at the moment XD. ... Probably never will be I have shoulder and back problems so it's defo out of the question plus mum always glares at me when I bring up the subject XD. (When I say back and shoulder problems my back crack easily and hurts after a while and my shoulder always make a horrible clicking sound when ever I bring my arm above my shoulder :_: So I think I will stick to drawing :3 Although I will never make as much money as that.

My niece wants to be a stripper. I told her I'd break both her legs so she'd never walk again before I'd let her strip. I may sound like a hypocrite, but I know what kind of hell that life is. Drugs and prostitution are as common as cat shit in a litter box and my niece easily buckles under peer pressure. People look down on you and "stripper" doesn't look good on a resume'. I won't deny that it is good and fast money, but it is far from easy money. You can start to think that you are only worth what someone will pay for you. If your self-esteem is not strong, you may even start to believe it.
No matter what you draw or how much money you make doing it, I promise that drawing is safer and more reliable than stripping. Not to mention more "respectable". LOL

Haha it's something my mum would say and that how she looks at me whenever I bring it up, Like she'll break my legs *shudders* but no you don't sound like one at all you just want what is best for her and I would be the same but I get where she is coming from it is good pay but yeah there is a lot of down sides to it. More than there are good sides I suppose. However if she was determined to do that wouldn't it be safer if she was working for you where you can keep an eye on her rather than her working for someone else ?

I haven't worked in a club in 5 years, so there would be no way to keep tabs on her. The clubs she could work in locally would offer more grief than money anyway. She just turned 18 and was pretty sheltered growing up. The clientele appraising her like prime rib for a few dollars on stage, would crush her soul like a grape. Here in Bum-f*ck Nowhere, Montana there are not a lot of wealthy, high class clientele to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on an evening at a strip club. Here, if guys spend $50 on drinks and tipping the dancers on stage, they've blow their entire budget for the month! LOL Stripping is not lucrative in our neck of the woods. My major money was made in New York, Miami, Orlando, New Orleans, Baltimore and Atlantic City. A bar in the middle of a cow pasture is what passes as a strip club here. It really is kinda sad. LOL
Despite all of this there is a bright side.... Shingo is defo leaning towards the seme side now lol... I think we're going to be seeing him topping soon... Oh dear... I really hope he didn't cheat ;_; ... But I don't think he did. I think it's like those mangas where you see the kiss and then the next chapter you see the one who got kissed bitch slapping the person who kissed them. Kie or whatever his name is loved Shingo to much to cheat... I think he would feel guilty if a kiss was forced on him even though it wouldn't be his fault... Or he's just in shock and he freezes up? Either way I'm refusing to believe he cheated on Shingo! Hmph! I have faith in him... *Sobs* The mangaka has never put cheating in her works before so I don't think they will now....Although she did do a scene where Shingo aroused the main guy in another manga (Before he got his own manga lol) And the main guy was letting himwell...Yeah until they were interrupted by the seme of that manga.... *cries*
Your so optimistic my friend
yeah such an optimistic person you are & i almost agree about everything you said except the fact that kei was forced into kiss.the new guy kissed him and he just sit there calm and limp as fish and LET that bastard kiss him. btw i still believe that hes not cheathing T-T
I know XD
Me and my friend had a very long discussion about this lol and she thought he had cheated at first until we saw the next chapter and we see how kei reacts when the guy hugs him in front of shingo he looks shocked, Angry and really pissed off... The whole scene was kind of "Eeek!!" But giggle worthy just because it was so awkward. Me and my friend now believe its all to mislead the readers and besides the kiss he didn't do anything else ^^