I still remember to this day when Taegu fans hated my comment before when I said this dude groomed Yeongwoon and loved him when he was literally a minor. They really hated my comment and literally told me to fuck off coz they say "he's better than seoin since he doesn't sleep with anyone and probably doesn't have STD"
Now Taegu fans, defend your pedo bias. Yeongwoon said no so there's no consent. Why's he pushing himself unto him and kissed him and also when he's in his vulnerable state before and was drunk, why kiss him, there's no damn consent in it?! Coz he's fed up with bottling his feeling? That's not an cause to force yourself on someone...
Anyway, The author said that the series is coming to its season finale so I guess the season will end with Seoin knowing everything through the other bitch and probably we will get the scene in season 1. It makes sense if you think about is so that Season 3 will start with the present already and not the past of how yeongwoon end up in that state in Chapter 1. What im really afraid is what seoin will do.
its crazy how his fans ignore hes a whole ass pedophile/predator like it was so clear from the start that he was a creep
I mean… just cause he’s pushing himself onto Yeongwoon now still doesn’t make him a pedo lol. Even in this chapter it clearly states he didn’t have those feelings until YW was an adult. Being a pedo m/grooming and forcing yourself on another adult (which, for the record, Seoin also did multiple times) are VERY diff things. Calling someone a pedo/groomer when they’re not devalues the term. Ofc I’m disappointed in Taegu, but ultimately he’s not acted any differently to early days Seoin atp
my brother in christ HE WATCHED HIM GROW UP you guys are disgusting for defending that shit
This. I’m not a Taegu fan and not enjoying what he’s doing atm. But the way these kids incorrectly throw terms around they clearly don’t understand is getting old and completely diminished the overall point.
creep type of mindset stay the fuck away from kids
I am not justifying Seoins actions before, he's a dick too at that time but we readers expected him (Taegu) to be a father figure or cthe voice of reason in this series for Yeongwon because he saved Yeongwon from his violent father and somehow took care of him until he grew up to be a proper adult. If I'm not wrong, he saved Yeongwon when he was in highschool right? So some readers like me perceive him as someone who should not have feeling towards Yeongwon. this chapter shows us YW being vulnerable and drunk when Taegu visited him but why take advantage of it? Yes YW is probably an adult at that time but there was no consent to it for him to do that. And now, YW clearly says no, but he pushes himself on him coz he's feelings can't be contained anymore? It's not an excuse actually. If we look back on previous chapters of his POV, he eventually had feelings for him before he got older.
I get the anger of others towards Seoin but he was first introduced to the series as someone who has slept with a bunch of men. While Taeugu was first introduced as someone who is close to YW like a father to him, a guide in his messed up life before, or a family, the voice of reason and now witnessing him do this to YW is somehow a betrayal to readers coz he was not introduced that way. Seoins ass and dick atitude was established in season 1 that is why we readers expect already that he will eventually change coz there must be some reason why he's like that. If Taeugu was introduced as a possible love interest from the beginning where he is not totally connected to yeongwon when he was in highschool, in a familial type of way, it's ok.
I hope you get where the anger is coming from the readers.
He’s 6 years older than Yeongwoon at most. He didn’t raise him, he’s not his father, he just helped out a kid in need- with no ulterior motives. If he had ulterior motives, that’d be grooming. His feelings changing once YW is an adult isn’t pedophilia- and still he doesn’t act on those feelings until YW is at least 22/23 (at which point Taegu would have been in his late 20s btw). Given that they’re still close after that incident, it’s safe to say that Taegu likely backed off at the time and respected YW’s boundaries since. So I don’t see the problem with that either. There are plenty of age gap manhwas where the adult ML knew the MC as a child. Soooo so many, but yall don’t have issue with that because ML is main lead. The only issue with Taegu here is that he’s forcing himself on YW- which is exactly what Seoin did too
Ulterior motives btw (cause I feel like I need to spell it out for you) is expecting smth in return for his help, or using his power and authority over YW to make YW comply with sexual demands. He hasn’t done that. Get your terminology correct. It pmo
You seeing Taegu as a father figure is your interpretation tho. I’ve never seen Taegu that way, and when he was first introduced, it was as YW’s boss and Hyung (which is just Korean for close older friend). I’m not defending Taegu forcing himself on YW during this chapter. I’m disappointed too. I’m just tired of youse throwing about the words groomer and pedo incorrectly.
And Taegu was introduced as second ML, for readers who actually paid attention. It’s Taegu’s hand in the cover photo and the author herself stated it many times. Like youre all just forgetting how YW and Taegu messed around at the start, like the scene where Taegu was showing his bruise to YW.
You act as if Taegu literally invited YW into his house, changed his diaper, and tugged him into bed every night. He just helped YW access the social support services he needed and kept an eye on him.
At the end of the day, the first time he had feelings for YW, YW was already 19 (as shown in this chapter). So not a pedo, by definition. And the help that Taegu offered was given without the expectation of anything in return, nor did he make YW dependent on him (he did the opposite, helping YW become independent)- so not grooming, by definition
okay shut the fuck up you pedophile all of you gross bitches defending him are all on some sex offender list
Thank you for only doubling down and proving you are a literal child who has not yet understood how the world works. By all means, continue making it apparent how limited your intellect and age are with all the cursing, incorrect term usage, and rage.
Guys I know it looks similar to kouguu no omega without the omegaverse aspect but have faith and trust to BWAT. The stories this person makes is really interesting & dare I say peak level of angst & love.
I am looking forward to how author-nim will flesh out it's characters, the world building, the rising conflicts, the hard hitting angst, the blossoming love and of course the snu snu scenes.
Right i also thought when seme appear to be kid
Yep. And some people are thinking that BWAT is just blatantly copying another work which is utter BS. That arranged marriage to different kingdom/child seme first encounter is a typical troupe in BL. I don't know why people have to point it out just coz kouguu no omega was more popular and recognized by that troupe even though a lot of other BL works have that same kind of troupe in their story.
I feel bad for BWAT author-nim with the remarks and hate comments she's getting with her new and comeback work even though it's still the first chapter... Like can people wait before judging?
Actually that manga is the only one I know with such concept, since it's similar to that manga people would point it out concept is similar in sense that seme is beautiful tanned from mixed arabic attire as kouguu no omega that kid was and omega in that was also from cold kingdom ... So it's indeed similar but of course BWAT would have more of complex plotline as they usually have
For those who wanna read now, here's a link to the new chapter in a different site. The ads a not quite annoying so yeah
https://manhwaclan.com/manga/eleceed/chapter-378/
Spoiler Talk:
So Theon, charcoal man's disciples decides not to fight Noona and let's her assistant/underling fight Noona even though Noona challenged her. Talk about being coward. Hahaha of course she would rather fight Jiwoo who's much weaker than Noona (no offense to Jiwoo since he's not Top 50 yet) coz noona is Top 50. Theon's level is not there yet, talk about slapping reality in her face.
where
YOU FUCKING FUCK OF A FUCKING PSYCHOPATH BITCH!
Seriously? I've read the novel and I sure as hell hate him in that version but now seeing his smug face in manhwa version doubled my hatred towards him. Very insensitive, very manipulative, gaslighter, inconsiderate, good for nothing piece of shit.
Chase needs therapy and I mean not just the Joshua Therapy but a professional help for being surrounded with non-existent parents despite being alive as fuck with a sick older brother who inflicted trauma in him. Bliss, you escaped hell, good for you but Chase sure did not coz look at him and I feel bad for him...
Season 2 is gonna be full of drama with less smut so I hope those who are complaining that this has no story at all coz lately the chapters are full of smut between Joshua and Chase, well I hope you're gonna enjoy season 2's literal WILD RIDE but still wholesome in a way.
I believe Season 2 will be the last season for this series unless they add original scenes coz their pacing is going there already. And yes, there are side stories in the novel so we'll probably getting those as well.
Getting jealous over a
Love to see that he thought he'll be the tough guy and Dan hides behind him but in the end, it's the other way around.
Luke, the HECK?! At this point Andrew will start to distance himself from Luke, much worse, gets sick of him defending his "friends" than trusting his boyfriend.
I am waiting for the day that Luke realizes that everything Andrew has been telling him is all true and that he will regret the choices and words he spout to him... Like I want this series to be wholesome but after all this fiasco with Luke, I want him to regret everything he's done to Andrew and beg for sorry; by not listening to the person whom he should have listened more since they have that intimate relationship...
This is just my opinion ok? Hope you don't hate me for it...
Don't check this out if you don't wanna get spoiled ok?
The next chapters are gonna be so spicy! And by spicy I mean punishment level dominant Josh with tied up Chase on Bed!! If the manhwa sticks to how the novel plays it out. Or maybe the manhwa is going to add some original parts to blend with what's in the novel.
Well that's what you get for thinking that Emma is another woman like dude, the resemblance is there. Hahahaha but I guess it might not be a punishment for Chase huh? A reward I think so.
Hi! Do you have a link for the novel??
PETRO, THE FUCK?! CAN'T YOU READ THE ROOM. Alsian was suppose to get his "good job" pat on the head by Camilla then you freaking interrupted. There I said it.
he did it on purpose obviously XD Love rivals
he could read the room, he just want to ruin it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Like he even stands a chance against Alsian
He’s not even second lead material
Ok... I'll raise my white flag and say "it was wrong of me to say Taegu is a groomer/pedo or taking advantage of vulnerable Yeongwon" even though my heart says no coz some commenters here didn't get why most of us readers now are mad at Taegu.
Again, Taegu is introduced to the series as a "father figure, voice of reason, a good uncle who saved YW from his abusive father" which what YW certainly feels is a familial love coz he is indebted to him for saving him. No more. No less.
Put yourself in YW shoes, you have a father figure in your life then in your most vulnerable drunken state, he kissed you. Are you ok with it? Let's go to a more recent one. If you already said no to your father figure and still forces himself on you with a kiss. Are you ok with it?
That's where the people are mad for. He was established to be a father figure in this series or a voice of reason for Yeongwon. Why do the literal opposite of being a father figure and become what? Give me proper word coz maybe I'm wrong with terms... And please his POV scenes clearly shows he had an "interest" not love yet towards YW when he was literally a minor before he eventually realized when he got much older that he loves him... Dont lump him to Seoin because Seoin was introduced as a dick before we got his backstory so him doing the bad stuff to YW may not be justifiable but it's a part of how he's character was built and introduced with compared to Taegu. I saw one comment earlier saying that not everything Seoin did to YW was assault coz we got a POV/inner monologue from YW of why he can't resist Seoin when he can with his advances during those moments. It may not look consensual but in YW's mind, he let it happen even though he is aware it's wrong coz you know, he has feelings...
Is Pedo/groomer not a right term when he already had interest in him from the start and when he got older he loved him? Is interest not counted? Should it be only love towards someone of young age to be considered a pedo or groomer while raising them? I must be dumb...
Please don't hate me yet again... Im a dumb bitch ok?
You didn’t say anything wrong, I agree completely. I hate the direction the author took with Taegu. It’s like BL can’t exist without throwing in rape, incest, and a dash of pedophilia, it’s genuinely disturbing.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!! More than Taegu, the author is partly to blame as well coz why sprinkle Taegu with some "having hidden feelings for YW" when he could have been a good father figure to him instead. Why couldn't the author just added a different character to fill in the triangle if the author wish to have a 2nd lead for YW.
We wouldn't be having this pedo, assault, rape conversations or Seoin Fans vs. Taegu fans of who done it worse and who's actions are justifiable if the author didn't establish complicated stuff to their male leads...