
wtf were those raws...I refuse to believe that nooo make it stopppplp

Whether people like it or not, Hojun didn’t look comfortable in that scene tbh. I don’t think a 3p should happen if one of them is hesitant to do it. He didn’t seem that happy seeing Mr. Ahn kiss his ex at the end. At this point, it feels like NTR rather than a consensual threesome. That’s probably why people aren’t too happy with it.

To be fair, they said it in proper sentences without any emojis and lots of people equate that to being serious. From my experience, (and I’ve been accused plenty of having no chill when I’m not at all mad) it’s the way that it was written that made it easy to misconstrue. Short and blunt. If it was typed like this: speak for urself haha , it’s easy to see they were joking lightheartedly in contrast to, “Speak for yourself.”

It's depressing that in order for people to understand something as a joke you either have to use emojies which I can't use on my laptop and always look kind of off putting or have to write a badly structured sentence.
It should go without saying that "Speak for yourself" as a response to many people not liking 3p was meant the way I meant it.
It's also kind of ironic that I'm blamed for not being obvious enough when I got the response "Gosh, are you triggered? Lmaoooo" which was obviously meant as an insult and not a serious question.

I got used to it, honestly. You dunno how many times I had to point out my replies weren’t an attack towards their post. At some point, it dawned to me that having so many people mistaking my words meant that the fault lies with I wasn’t clear enough and I was just being stubborn with the way I structure my sentences. I had to change a couple of things so people could understand me. Nothing too dramatic, a simple lol or :] is fine.

So yeah. Presentation is important when you only have text to convey your meaning, like what the previous poster said. It’s not that big of a deal lol (see what I did there uwu), I mean badly structured sentences aren’t that bad. It portrays informal, casual speech. Speaking like this makes it feel like a debate, like I’m typing a term paper.

To me it feels normal and considering that many people here aren't native speakers, it's not helpful to write badly structured sentences. I've been misunderstood often enough even when I wrote a very informal post. People don't misunderstand your posts because they're not written clearly enough, they misunderstand because they expect a certain response and when your response doesn't fit their expectation they jump to conclusions on their own.
The amount of times I've been attacked by Trump supporters with completely unrelated sentences like "so you support Erdogan?!" simply because I think building a wall is way too expensive and not effective enough to justifies those costs (btw I don't even live in Turkey) is ridiculous.
I'm not going to give in to that kind behavior. And it doesn't matter whether it's political or only related to entertainment. If somebody jumps to conclusions on their own for no good reason then it's not your fault for not taking every single way of reading a post into account, that's impossible to do anyways. We have to learn to ask someone (properly) what they mean if we're not sure and not immediately go into attack mode.

Interesting, because it was the opposite effect for me. Changing my tone and speech made people a lot more friendly and never attacked me back. It doesn’t hurt to give in and help people understand what you mean even if it’s as simple as writing informally. I haven’t had a proper heated debate or misunderstanding in a while. Clearly, we’ve had different results. Something in your speech must’ve triggered them. Can’t help if I don’t know what you wrote after all.

You don't have to help. They told me they were jumping to conclusions based on the fact that they weren't reading my post properly. The last time I was attacked was because I was making a very obvious joke (informal speech pattern and emojies included) and it wasn't understood as one.
From what I can tell by taking a quick look at your post history is, that you mainly write short posts. I don't. My posts tend to be longer. The longer a post is the more likely it becomes for people to not read what you wrote properly and jump to conclusions on their own. I don't remember ever getting into an argument in a topic I made myself when what I wrote was just one or two sentences long. I mean I could avoid this by reducing the length of my posts but that's not the kind of discussion I want to have anyways so it'd be pointless. Besides, as this discussion here shows, writing short posts isn't the golden way to avoid misunderstandings either. There's always the possibility that people read into your posts whatever they want.

If it’s a long post, it’s probably an opinion of some sorts. I don’t think it’s supposed to be meant to be written in an informal speech. Like when you put out an opinion online, there’s bound to be someone out there who’ll disagree with you so even if you’re trying not to be aggressive, someone will still attack you for it. So I personally don’t think it‘s about being mistaken for being hostile but rather whatever it is you were talking about.
Not sure how this suddenly took a turn towards another direction, I thought we were talkin’ about how you said something short and blunt and the other poster didn’t know you were joking. My first advice fits shorter posts, not long ones. :v also, you read my post history? um ok xD

If you don't want people to look at your post history then change your setting.
I was telling you why I don't need your help, I know what the problem is and we ended up talking about it because you were trying to give me general advice. I looked at your post history to confirm my suspicion that you simply have a very different approach to writing posts on this site which means that you were given me advice for something that isn't the problem here.
I'm also not constantly getting attacked for posting my opinion. It happens very rarely and mostly with trolls who attack everyone. This situation right here is not a problem because it was a troll post but because someone was jumping to conclusions. A simple "are you being serious?" would've been enough and as I said, if something isn't clear people should simply ask and not switch into attack mode immediately.

No, I’m fine with it. Just didn’t think you’d go out of your way to read my post history, it took me by surprise lmao. The way you were talking earlier made it seem like you were constantly attacked so it made me wonder. See what we meant by text needing to be conveyed in a certain way for people to get the tone of your speech? Not everyone’s gonna go out of their way to ask after all. That’s just how people are. So, the solution to that is what I just said earlier. The way you structure your speech is important so there wouldn’t be any misinterpretation in the first place.

The problem is, that's not the solution because as I said before, I was attacked for making a joke despite the fact that I used an emojie and informal speech, because it was not understood as a joke. As I said, people will sometimes just jump to conclusions on their own and it's impossible to predict every single possible way to read something anyways. But it's possible to ask before you attack someone. My personal stance is that asking for clarification is a lot easier than writing a post with every single form of reading something in mind. It didn't occur to me that my original post could be read as anything other than a joke.
If we expect people to be clear with their posts, we should also expect people to ask when something isn't obvious to them because it takes less or the same amount of time to ask than it takes to write a snarky response to something that wasn't said in the first place.

Yes a different post. I used it as an example why being informal and using emojies doesn't always work because some people still don't understand it. Hence why I think people should ask when they're unsure what the meaning behind something is because everything can be misunderstood doesn't matter how it's written.

It's on a different site and I'm not really comfortable with sharing it on this site. But I can tell you that the misunderstanding happened because said person was having a discussion about something in a different topic (I wasn't aware of) that can be related to my joke, hence why they took it seriously.

If it’s a privacy issue, you can dm it to me. o: if you really don’t wanna share it, it’s fine tho. For that specific case, it makes sense to explain things if they took offense to something. For this thread specifically, my point also stands. I think it definitely depends on the context of the discussion.

Sigh, considering the poster wrote such a long post:
To me it feels normal and considering that many people here aren't native speakers, it's not helpful to write badly structured sentences. I've been misunderstood often enough even when I wrote a very informal post. People don't misunderstand your posts because they're not written clearly enough, they misunderstand because they expect a certain response and when your response doesn't fit their expectation they jump to conclusions on their own.
The amount of times I've been attacked by Trump supporters with completely unrelated sentences like "so you support Erdogan?!" simply because I think building a wall is way too expensive and not effective enough to justifies those costs (btw I don't even live in Turkey) is ridiculous.
I'm not going to give in to that kind behavior. And it doesn't matter whether it's political or only related to entertainment. If somebody jumps to conclusions on their own for no good reason then it's not your fault for not taking every single way of reading a post into account, that's impossible to do anyways. We have to learn to ask someone (properly) what they mean if we're not sure and not immediately go into attack mode.
I thought he/she will understand I'm just asking her a question. Lmao....
i literally chocked