Hopeless_shipper August 3, 2024 1:49 am

Yk the other day I found merch of this series in the mall which I'd kinda left behind and it brought memories like yooo ik these dudes

Hopeless_shipper August 2, 2024 3:13 pm

Why are y'all complaining....tearing is nothing if not straightforward and forceful. When she puts her mind to something, she *will* achieve it.

We know this about her, and thats why we love her. Why are you complaining now that she's following the plan she basically set out to do on day one?

Like sorry you aren't getting your rocket fast happily ever after with your favorite boy but like. Hating on her and saying it's "not like her" WHEN SHE SET TO DO THIS SINCE BASICALLY EPISODE ONE is wilde

    no way lol August 2, 2024 4:06 pm

    like she's literally been around kyung mo since the beginning trying to make him fall for her again for her revenge plot why would she suddenly fall for him again js bc she smiled him

    Hopeless_shipper August 2, 2024 4:13 pm
    like she's literally been around kyung mo since the beginning trying to make him fall for her again for her revenge plot why would she suddenly fall for him again js bc she smiled him no way lol

    LITERALLY. Like they're acting like taerin is a confused little girl who's going back to her abusive boyfriend after she promised shed move on like....ARE WE READING THE SAME STORY, this is REVENGE.

    And she's emotionally smart but that doesn't mean she can read fucking Minds. She doesn't know the ml likes her. And even if she did, what does that have to do with her? A deal is a deal

    Foxtrot August 3, 2024 8:06 am

    Also like, media literacy is a thing too! While it hasn't been said outright, and I know originally their plan was to get their exs back...lowkey taerin has too much self respect to actually take him back, especially with how she's been feeling about him in the recent chapters.

    like she absolutely hates him even more now that he's actively pursing her even though he's still with the other girl, like boy you cheated in me and it wasn't even worth it?!?

    Tbh I dint think she ever actually intended to break them up to get him back...she just wanted to break them up, and I'm 100% backing her.

    Singles & Solos August 4, 2024 12:02 am

    We're complaining on them not advancing in the relationship, Taerin literally caught Yoonsik falling for her but no her sensing suddenly disappeared just like a week of vacation like bruh

    Singles & Solos August 4, 2024 12:05 am
    We're complaining on them not advancing in the relationship, Taerin literally caught Yoonsik falling for her but no her sensing suddenly disappeared just like a week of vacation like bruh Singles & Solos

    And them authors love playing with our feelings like ket me see the love I have too much hate from the other couples we need some loosened tension ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Singles & Solos August 4, 2024 12:05 am
    We're complaining on them not advancing in the relationship, Taerin literally caught Yoonsik falling for her but no her sensing suddenly disappeared just like a week of vacation like bruh Singles & Solos

    And them authors love playing with our feelings like let me see the love I have too much hate from the other couples we need some loosened tension ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Singles & Solos August 4, 2024 12:06 am
    We're complaining on them not advancing in the relationship, Taerin literally caught Yoonsik falling for her but no her sensing suddenly disappeared just like a week of vacation like bruh Singles & Solos

    And them authors love playing with our feelings like let me see some love I have too much hate for the other couples we need some loosened tension ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Hopeless_shipper August 4, 2024 3:31 am
    Also like, media literacy is a thing too! While it hasn't been said outright, and I know originally their plan was to get their exs back...lowkey taerin has too much self respect to actually take him back, espe... Foxtrot

    Yeah no I don't think she ever intended to take him back, just get back at them.

    Like genuinely I don't remember them saying they wanted to get their exes back but tbh I kinda slimmed over the first chapters

    Hopeless_shipper August 4, 2024 3:36 am
    We're complaining on them not advancing in the relationship, Taerin literally caught Yoonsik falling for her but no her sensing suddenly disappeared just like a week of vacation like bruh Singles & Solos

    No, she suspected that he liked her, but when she confronted him about it he denied it very vehemently so she believed him.

    It's normal to believe your friends.

    Sometimes you get the inkling someone likes you, but then it turns out false. Or if you're as straightforwards as her, you ask them just to sound them out and that way know how to act appropriately. Ik tons of people who ask others outright when they think someone likes them, and then rejects them/accepts them before the other has the courage to confess. If they say you're wrong tho, then you just move on with your life.

    You did all you could, if they decide to not be honest thats on them

    Manny August 4, 2024 6:52 am
    LITERALLY. Like they're acting like taerin is a confused little girl who's going back to her abusive boyfriend after she promised shed move on like....ARE WE READING THE SAME STORY, this is REVENGE.And she's em... Hopeless_shipper

    Fr although I don't agree with her way of revenge I think more damage was done when taerin and yoonshik acted lovey dovey. But I get her it looks like she will end up winning and then she will dump his ass lol

    Foxtrot August 4, 2024 8:49 pm
    Yeah no I don't think she ever intended to take him back, just get back at them.Like genuinely I don't remember them saying they wanted to get their exes back but tbh I kinda slimmed over the first chapters Hopeless_shipper

    Tbh it could be a translation error or I'm misremembering. Like "let's get back at them" is super similar to "let's get them back"

    Although in one of the recent chapter taerin tells the guy she's glad when she hears about him getting close to his ex again because that was the point of their plan, so idk

    Hopeless_shipper August 5, 2024 3:39 am
    Tbh it could be a translation error or I'm misremembering. Like "let's get back at them" is super similar to "let's get them back" Although in one of the recent chapter taerin tells the guy she's glad when she ... Foxtrot

    I think the point I that they make the other two realize what they lost. That they're so much better and still they decided to leave them for people who will cheat on them like they did to them.

    Cause they don't really love their exes anymore and they fully see how trashy they were

    Batata August 6, 2024 10:09 am
    Tbh it could be a translation error or I'm misremembering. Like "let's get back at them" is super similar to "let's get them back" Although in one of the recent chapter taerin tells the guy she's glad when she ... Foxtrot

    No it's let's get back at them, I mean only revenge

Hopeless_shipper July 29, 2024 5:03 pm

The artist is drawing heeseo better so what the sucks up with the lawyer???


Like he used to look like a man.

Now he looks like a skinny Twink with big sparkly eyes and a back that's gonna get scoliosis from having it constantly arched like that.


Also, what was that last scene where he is crawling away but gets dragged back? Are we just supposed to imagine it's heeseo fucking him in the doorway, pulling out, and then grabbing his feet to drag him back into the room? The fuck?

    Gelato July 30, 2024 10:57 am

    It’s the “2nd season uke effect” lmao
    This surprisingly happens quite often in a lot of popular series
    No bottom is safe from the “twinkification”

Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 3:52 pm

LMFAO when the comments were full of people shitting on sasya I was defending him.


Now the comments are full of Karel hate and I'm defending him instead.


Idk maybe I'm just a contrarían but for me, both of the characters suck so there's no point hating on one another cause none of them deserve better idk

Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 3:39 pm

Ngl I feel like mc and 2ml get along better and understand each other better....


And the ml deserves someone better than the mc I still feel sorry for him from getting basically sexually harassed by her

Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 3:33 pm

Ppl complaining it's not yaoi are fucking annoying

Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 3:23 pm

Am I the only one who feels this story is kinda racist...

Like first off, we already know how Koreans are. East Asians as a whole actually, and I'm an ea myself.

No matter how good the story is, more often than not there will be an instance of pretty blatant racism/classism/sexism that will make me take a deep breath and count to ten before I brush it off and keep reading.

But in this case it feels especially nasty because the racism is sexual and more lustful.



Just. Of course the the side peace who's getting her brains blown buy the father while m watches is poc coded(but not ea). Brown dark curly hair, brown eyes, BIG pouty lips(but too big to be "beautiful and dignified), dark skin(or what is just not pasty dead paper white but you know, that's dark enough for them) and a curvy body.

Shes presented as a whore who has nothing but sex on her mind, what is basically a mindless sex toy a a backdrop to the father's and MC's story.



I want to highlight that while this *is* smut, there are ways to write smut more gracefully than others.


And we know that the author is perfectly capable of this in the way they handle MC's scenes.

Oh no, she's the perfect white protagonist to project onto(yes ik the author is Korean). She's pale, with straight shiny hair and and smart eyes. Her lips are pouty and pink, but not so much they turn grotesque or too much. Yes she has curves, but they're not so big they get in the way or ever turn obscene. Look! She's as skinny as a twig!

"I prefer my body anyways.." she says, as if she weren't the fucking beauty standard?? Like what was the author trying to say with this??? My country isn't as strict with our beauty standards but for example society still doesn't like fat bodies. I'd never go out of my way to compliment my own body and say I still like it more when compared to a body that is actively ostracized like????



I'm still reading it and I am kind enjoying it but really, did they really have the need to do that?

I feel like a lot of people are gonna tell me I'm reading too much into it lol but I really see it

    omi-omi July 30, 2024 10:37 pm

    I think you're not thinking from the main lead's perspective, because she compared her body to other girl due to her husband's comment. He said she wasn't his type, and fucked another woman without blinking an eye. I'd also feel conscious of my body after that. There was never any indication of certain beauty standards of the story from the beginning. Opposed to your comment, I actually enjoyed how there were women with different type of bodies and appearances since the beginning because smut rarely includes bodies like ours and deems it desirable. She was hot as hell, all the girls are. Idk, it's just my interpretation, well see what other chapteslrs will bring.

    yoruichisenju August 4, 2024 12:35 pm

    They thumbs you down because they don’t want to admit you’re right.

    Hopeless_shipper August 4, 2024 3:49 pm
    I think you're not thinking from the main lead's perspective, because she compared her body to other girl due to her husband's comment. He said she wasn't his type, and fucked another woman without blinking an ... omi-omi

    The things is that stories aren't reality. It isn't something that just happened. When things are shown here, it's always an active choice by the author's side.

    You have to pay attention to it and listen.

    Also, mc was never self conscious. She always knows her body is desirable. It's not presented as "my body is good too uwu

    Death-chan August 13, 2024 12:08 pm

    They downvoted you but you’re completely correct

Hopeless_shipper July 27, 2024 4:17 pm

Tbh like yeah the heroine sucks but? I wish so much of the hate she got wasn't for classcist bullshit reasons.

Like you can really tell this story is Korean in a way because of how they view certain matters.

Yeah she sucks but her being born out of a crime isn't her cross to bare.

Then there are things where they criticism her for not knowing the proper etiquette. Like, sorry she didn't grow up with a silver spoon? What do you want her to do about that?

She is pretty horrible and yeah I want to see her get ousted but I wish the reasons weren't such bullshit so I could hate her in peace. Instead I'm reminded of how classcist, heteronormative monolith society is, especially Korea's.

Just idk. Ew? Author wants to talk about being classless but they're the ones making a girl out to be disgusting cause she was born out of rape(they aren't outright saying it but it's obvious that's the intended effect...and just look at the comments)


(Obv still hate her tho lol)

    LeRain July 27, 2024 9:49 pm

    She would be treated like that even if the story wasn’t Korean, illegitimate children with no manners and achievements generally don’t get treated well among influential families. The fact that her mother is a rapist wasn’t revealed to the public, so idk why you brought that up. The family have the right to hate Seori, since her mother raped the father, and Seori wants nothing but horrible to them. People in the comments generally hate Seori because she’s malicious to everybody, she uses others for her own gain, she doesn’t show any respect to the people around her

    LeRain July 27, 2024 9:51 pm

    Also it’s not Seori's fault that her mother is a rapist, but it’s also cruel that the father has to take her in when he seems to still have a PTSD from the incident. If she at least had a tiny bit of respect for him, then it wouldn’t be as bad, but she keeps on literally sabotaging him.

    Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 1:08 am
    She would be treated like that even if the story wasn’t Korean, illegitimate children with no manners and achievements generally don’t get treated well among influential families. The fact that her mother i... LeRain

    Yeah you'll never see me defending her in general cause she sucks ass.

    And yeah high society in general is like that, but it's especially poignant in Korea. If you've talked to Koreans, the bullying there is no joke. Especially for dumb reasons like just for having divorced parents or a single parent. Just, things that are out of the control of the person who they're targeted to.

    I really really hate it.


    Also, where did you see me ask why people hate her? I don't even know her name, she's bland and just as classcist as the rest. I think I was pretty clear I did not like her character, and that I wanted her gone(her biggest crime personally is stupidity tho that really riles me up)


    I'm just saying a lot of the points the manhwa is using to hate on her is literally "oh, she's a bastard child. She doesn't belong here" instead of the very real criticizable things she's done.

    And I'm mentioning her mother because c'mon. It's obvious it's going to get revealed to the public and that it's going to be the final nail in the coffin to her character. Not just high society, but normal Korean society is going to get wind of it due to that reporter and they're going to destroy her.

    Which I'd agree with, if it weren't for it being due to something out of her control. There are real children of rape alive today, who deserve just as much respect as the next person. A parents crime does not define you. Imagine them reading this?

    Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2024 1:10 am
    Also it’s not Seori's fault that her mother is a rapist, but it’s also cruel that the father has to take her in when he seems to still have a PTSD from the incident. If she at least had a tiny bit of respec... LeRain

    Yeah, I agree. When did you see me say otherwise?
    I do feel really bad for the father who probably has to relive that everytime he sees her.

    Personally if I was the father I'd give her some money to take care of her but I would not let her in my house. But alas, plot points and all that

    LeRain July 28, 2024 9:58 am
    Yeah you'll never see me defending her in general cause she sucks ass.And yeah high society in general is like that, but it's especially poignant in Korea. If you've talked to Koreans, the bullying there is no ... Hopeless_shipper

    The general public in the story doesn’t hate Han Seori yet though, they are prejudiced because she’s not a legitimate child, but it happens literally everywhere. It was revealed that she’s arrogant and doesn’t treat service staff well, and she didn’t even get that much hate for it. For the stupid decisions and unnecessary malicious actions she suffers little consequences in the story. Also I didn’t hear about her being a child of rape getting exposed, I think it may never happen. I'm just repeating myself here, but it doesn’t matter it’s not her fault. The father shouldn’t have to see her, I also think the best choice would be to give her money and tell her to never show up in front of his eyes again.

Hopeless_shipper July 27, 2024 2:24 pm

Where the fuck are chapters 50 to 85 no cause u don't understand I was so into it what

Hopeless_shipper July 26, 2024 8:49 am

Whatafacka

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