....that's just the same bullshit he's dealing with the other guy.
They're both the worst what the hell.
Yeah……. But I prefer namwoo. He hasn’t forced him to do anything. But I really don’t like how they’re using the mom to get with him.
Literallyyyyy.
It's basically rape atp
There are much better and easier ways to get him imo. Especially namwoo. He already knows mc was attracted to him and liked him. Literally all he has to do is respect him and show he is willing to protect him a ND his mother out of pureness or whatever and he would probably go to him himself. There's no need for this bull
Namwoo didn't do anything actually
...what the fuck. What was the point of this.
I like reading BL's cause I like the dark romance aspect of this. This could barely be classified as a romance.
It's like neither of them have any feelings for the other. The top just has whatever obsession for whatever reason. He's ruined his life since childhood and keeps ruining it now through adulthood.
He has other bed warmers so why the hell does he need to bother the mc?
It's just all really off, I don't recommend it.
At least in other toxic BL's there is passion and a semblance of pull. This was just
..idek
THANK YOUUU
i was confused why i felt so iffy even though i like the art and the characters, and ive definitely read worse too
I disliked by accident i agree with you
Brooo I think his two pets were the two guys LMAOO he's defff some type of monster.
Also??? The mom???
I'm sorry but that's irresponsable AF. You can't birth w child and then leave it. Isn't your lover oh so powerful and rich? Ask him to help separate him from his father?? Dumb bitch I hate irresponsable parents. The dad is the worst too. Leave your child out of it asshole
Honestly I'm living for more side stories. Like I'd read fanfiction of them but the fandom is too small I doubt there's any on AO3
If delululu were a person
Spoilers: her and Carlin weren't anything in the past it is quite literally all in her head(false memories) lmaooooo
Oh god.
You know, I was thinking "I hope that's not how they resolve this issue. " Because a lot of manhwas have awful parent-,child relationship but solve everything by going "oh he/she cared,they just had to hide it/didn't know how to convey their feelings" and that's honestly such bullshit. If you are unable to make your child feel loved you are an awful person. I don't care.
So when I saw that she was feeling touched and like a family I really thought they were going to do the whole "she's been trying in her own way, she just never knew" only to be slapped in the face with the money issue. I legit gasped and had to bring my left hand to my mouth and silence the scream I was making with my face because why is this so on point?
I love my mom, but she never apologizes. Just asian parents, I guess. But the difference is that I can forgive her because I love her. This was just a random woman doing everything I hate about our relationship so my misgivings are gone and I can hate her freely. I almost killed my younger brother when I was a kid too. But in that case it was actually my fault. If she had hated me for it I'd have understood. But in this case all she did was "tattle". The mom once again can't reconcile being in the wrong (because really, if we are going to blame fingers the one who had an argument with him was her) so she blames her pre teen daughter instead. How mature of her. I hope she rots.
My advice would be to ignore that family. Maybe build a relationship with the new kid, because he's innocent. But cut everyone else off. Theyre not worth it.
wait how did her brother die? i forgot
motorcycle crash
and how does that have to do with the mc?
it was her brother n obv loved him cause siblings yeah and after he died her mom was not the same n wasn't very nice typa shi ykyk
R u high
ion bro this all I remember
She fought with her brother -> her brother felt emo -> went and wild with his motorcycle -> kaboom crash -> mc's mom blame her -> dad's cheats with some random woman -> now the three of the r mentally unstable.
Wish he'd actually just shot him. Oh the irony of the father advocating for gun control when his son is going around carrying one.
I wanted that or for him to come forward during one of his speeches to disclose the truth. Like fuck them both. The stalker is clearly mentally deranged but tbh idgaf. And the dad does not deserve to talk about protecting people when he treats everyone around him like that.
I need him to beat him up. Or something.
Like wtf. Or at least but boundaries?? It's not like you can't tie him up and use him as a vibrator with a person attached.
I don't get why he's basically not resisting at all. He did at the start and then everything after was go game.
Also I'm willing to bet my unborn child that the mls recount of what happened isn't what actually went down. We know authors tend to veer on the mysoginstic side(I'll expand on this if y'all want) so there's just close to no way the mc is actually stronger than the male lead.
He's either some hybrid creep or a normies who went crazy by himself or with the help of a mad scientist to become a guide just so he could fuck him.
Wtf there are literally so many ways he could have not accepted the rejection why did he pick one of the worst
could you explain the misogynistic side of authors?
I wrote a reply and then my phone died and it was a lengthy reply so I'm just going to do speech to text and hopefully that translates if you've got any further questions then I'll text it I mean write it but for now I'm super tired so I'm just going to start talking:
So basically everyone has a little bit of internalized misogyny but it's doubly so for certain countries and Korea is one of them. Like there's a reason they have a giant protest where women refused to have kids because they're treated like s***.
And that's easier to spot in works where we have a man and a woman because the roles are much more clearly defined because we go into the story already expecting certain you know gender roles and stuff like that. If you read a story most of the time the guy is going to be the cool hot strong smart popular one and the girl is just she's just a normal plain Jane.
Now it's true that that has been changing and now we do have cool protagonists but for the longest time female protagonists have just been mostly passive and just someone the reader can live through for Romance again there are exceptions of course but most of the time that is what you found in stories especially so in like mangas and Manhwas like I remember the stories I would read that were written in like the 2000s or even in the 90s like the girls there were insufferable because they were just basically a mat because you could walk all over them.
And so now the misogyny is mostly just small microaggressions like it won't be as big as oh no you can't do you can't become a blah blah blah because you're a woman but it will be small things like maybe making the protagonist different for liking Sports oh she's so different from the other girls she's not into makeup blah blah blah.
That is harder to add in a story about BL but it still seeps through. Like a lot of the time they'll either be Pure Evil or just there for no reason it's hard to find good female characters in BL they're always done so dirty. But that's just like a background stuff what I meant mostly was how they write BL pairings.
And to see that you have to go no further than the main pairing itself you see the seme Be this Greek god of a guy who has everything he's essentially the same as the main love interest in a normal Shoujo manga. So he'll be handsome he'll be rich he'll be smart and he'll be strong.
What's more interesting is how you look at the UK character. My cubby some small slip of a man with a feminine figure super narrow shoulders tiny waist stick thin arms and he will be the one the reader who in most cases is female we'll see themselves through he will be the poor one the not popular one the probably not that smart like in most cases he is just as dumb as a female protagonist etc etc. In other words he will be the female of the relationship and I'm saying female in quotation marks. Now that's not always the case and you have some stories where the UK character will also be buff and maybe even moderately smart. shocker. But in most cases the male lead the love interest will always overpower him he'll always be somehow just smarter just stronger just blah blah blah just answer and he will always just have the upper hand because he's just to put it plainly better. That's why I don't believe that the protagonist here is stronger because I'm sure that something is just going to pop out to be like oh no he was just playing along he's actually just been the strongest all along. Because the UK is the girl in the relationship.
This is especially so in stories where their bed positions are very clearly defined. Like, there are some stories where it is real because it's centered around two boys but since the bed position isn't that clear and cut the readers are left wondering and you see them as people instead of just people's you can project your desires to cuz a lot of people I feel like fetishize the genre because the genre in the first place was created to fetishize gay people. So the yowie genre is actually directed at females which I feel like we all know it's not at all a real representation of gay men and their relationships.
So in stories where you have that ambiguity about them like for example lost in the clouds I think it's a good story because it doesn't let people just project instead you actually kind of get to know them while in stories like this it's basically just pwp. If you're reading this unless you like dark romances you're probably not in here for the plot. Sorry I'm like insanely tired and I know I'm rambling a lot and there are probably a lot of sentences that don't make sense I'm sure that if you ask someone much more informed and eloquent than me they could give you a much more succent answer
OMG HOW ARE YOU SO WELL SPOKEN THERES NOT A SINGLE UM OR LIKE IN HERE DESPITE BEING TTS
and i get what you mean now by the mc not being the stronger one despite being the esper…that sucks cuz hes so handsome
You're being way too kind cause I tried reading this and even I got annoyed despite knowing what I originally meant
Also my phone translating uke to UK is hilarious. Also yowie. Idk what that is but I found it funny
OHH UK IS UKE. i got yowie though cuz thats how i say it in my head
Try reading Reincarnated into Demon King Evelogia's World (Yaoi). It’s exactly the opposite of the stereotype tropes you just named.
Well at least in the fact that their roles are switched.
I used to read that but I've gotten older and that seems to veer in p3dofilia for me now
Not accusing you or any other reader ofc but it doesn't feel right for me personally. Would love any other recs of inverted stereotypes tho!
Not a fan of him whoring his way around tbh
It just seems like two completely different characters here, my mind can't see them and join them to the same person lmao.
Right like he better be putting on an act