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it was a good attempt lol

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u can even pinpoint the exact moment where he's just 'welp im fucked' xD

He really throw everything when Nakyum cling to him crying like that lmao i mean would too nakyum crying face is trully something else lol

The man was weak to Nakyum's tears when he was still under the grips of his psychosis early on and recently Seungho appears to be very much under control (with the exception of having a craving once in a while for skewered Inhun).

He looked like he wanted to shake Nakyum out of his tears, stopped himself when he realized that would be counterproductive and then figured out Nakyum might stop if SH just gave him what he wanted.

Kudos to Nakyum for throwing on SH's face that he was ok with forcing him to sleep with him but now that Nakyum agreed to it, SH was refusing him. It was a well placed stab in the chest.

I have been thinking the same

Mangaka wrote, that there will be few chapters about this couple a then there will be second season.

This couple is just to feed us while they work on the main one for the second season i believe. It’s like intermission?

Can't wait

Yes!!!!!

Thank you!!!

My heart beats once more (ok - it was beating before but you get the point)

Many Thanks.

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Seth was infertile (Osiris took his “seed” - the red flowers blooming because he couldn’t stand Seth having children with anyone except him, thats why he “poked” out Horus’s sem*n earlier). However, Nephthys really wanted a child so she made a deal with Osiris: he would give her his seed (they didn’t sleep with each other) but she has to give him the power of creation (goddess reproductive power). Anubis was born as a result of the deal. Later Osiris couldn’t hold his unrequited love for Seth any longer, he blackmailed Seth. He told Seth current son Anubis is the product of him and Nephthy, but since Seth considered a child to be the bond between two people’s love, then he would “recreate” Anubis to be the children of him and Seth. So Osiris took the soul of Anubis out and trapped them in one of those jars, tried to put power of creation in Seth (the sand clump) and created their new child and put a new soul into Anubis body. Seth begged him not to harm the current Anubis and would let him do anything with his body. After Osiris had his way with Seth, Sekhmet (lion head goddess) put a sleeping spell on Osiris and returned Anubis soul to his body.

Alas, the Anubis that we are seeing now is still the biological son of Osiris and Nephthys son, same soul.

I understood basically the same, though with a few different details:

Like you said, Osiris secretly impregnated Seth's wife in Seth's place, and she gave birth to Anubis, whom Seth initially thought was his own son and whom he raised and grew to love immensely. Until one day, Seth learned the truth and went to confront Osiris.

And this is where I understood differently....=

When Seth went to confront him, Osiris finally admitted to Seth the way he felt about him, and when Seth refused him because both of them were married, Osiris answered he would then just have to go on with what he had been planning in order to "force" Seth to give in. He said children were the both the proof of love between a couple and the "shackles" that kept those couples together, so he was just going to have to "impregnate" Seth in order to "shackle" him to himself. Since two male gods couldn't create a newborn, he would use the "goddess' reproductive essence" he had taken from Seth's wife and inject it inside Seth in order to be able to create the newborn's body, and for the newborn's soul he had already stolen Anubis' soul which would become the soul of Osiris and Seth's new "child". That way, Osiris said, Seth would not be able to kill their new "child" because he'd have the soul of the child Seth had previously loved. The reason he did this was also because Osiris was drunk on his power as god of life and he couldn't accept that he had limitations, like not being able to create a complete newborn god-child like goddesses "could" when they got pregnant, which was sth Osiris resented that he couldn't achieve on his own as the god of life, since his power didn't allow him the ability to create nd bring a "brand new" soul to existence. by himself.

Since doing so meant killing the current Anubis (whose body, uknown to Seth up to this point, was currently lying on a bed as an empty shell, after Osiris had recently stolen his soul) Seth was obviously horrified, and demanded that Osiris give back Anubis' soul. When he saw Osiris wasn't listening, he said he didn't need to have any biological children of his own after all, that the current Anubis that he had taken in and raised like his own was more than enough, and that would have sex with Osiris in every way Osiris wanted, as long as Osiris restored Anubis' soul to Anubis' original body. And that's how Osiris' rapes of Seth started, with Osiris holding Anubis' life hostage in order to get Seth to do what he wanted.


The thing is... Osiris' intention had never been just to threaten Anubis in order to be able to rape Seth that time. From what Sekhmet tells Horus, we learn it wasn't just a decision in the spur of the moment because Seth had discoevered the truth. Sekhmet hints that Osiris had already been preparing for such an outcome, and for how to turn it to his advantage in order to make Seth his.... She tells Horus that Osiris had actually even intended for Seth to find out that he had impregnated Neftys, because that was meant to be the first and biggest blow in a series of blows he had prepared in order to mine Seth's self-confidence, thus weakening his power and making it easier for Osiris to subdue him... Neftys' infidelity was the first seed of doubt that Osiris intended to plant in Seth about whether he was really as powerful as he thought, since he couldn't be all that powerful if his own wife had actually *wanted* to have another god's child because that god was stronger. Osiris taunted Seth before getting trapped in Duat, saying that Seth's wife had deliberately wanted to have the baby of a stronger god than Seth because, as the god of peace, she knew real peace could only be preserved by gods that were strong enough for it. The implication was that Seth couldn't have been as powerful if even his own wife Neftys didn't trust that either him or any child from him would actually be strong enough to be up to the task. He also said Seth's power as a desert god actually came from Osiris himself and thus Seth would start losing power if Osiris died and eventually Seth would even become powerless altogether; as it had been him, not Seth, that had originally created the desert by increasing the amount of sand near Egypt. ...Sekhmet tells Horus this is just another lie Osiris fed Seth in order to weaken and subdue him, and that Osiris knew Seth would never fall for such a lie unless Osiris mined his self-confidence first, using his wife Neftys' infidelity, and twisting her alleged reasons for having another god's baby.

So, when Seth went to confront Osiris, everything that happened afterwards had long been all planned by Osiris, all along. He had always had the undermining of Seth's self-confidence as a back up plan. Or maybe even as the main plan.... given he obviously knew he would never be able to have Seth unless he found a way to control him.

Wow, thank you for the extensive explanation, our points do match quite a few. I did not notice Nephthys's desire for power, given that Anubis is indeed a powerful good later, but Horus's strength would triumph Anubis's legend. In the end, none of them get what they want. I understand that Osiris basically planted a seed of doubt into Seth and that would drive him to go crazy on people.
I am settled on the family relationship drama now.

What do you think about the current plan of Isis as she is very determined to drown Egypt with the Nile? given what she knew about her husband's affair, why did she still agree to have a son with Osiris?
I know that she wanted Horus to get revenge for her but was the reunion with her husband out of love as she wanted to resurrect him? I hope the author elaborate on this since Isis is one of my fav female character in this series.

Well, just in case, I've read up to chapter 65 so if you're talking about anything beyond I have no idea (and tbh there are also some teeny-weeny parts I may have skipped... lol)

Anyway, as far as I know, up to chapter 65, Isis' flooding plans... SPOILERS

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...have failed? I mean, the other gods averted it? The flooding, and also the threat of a war with that foreign god that Isis had convinced to come and take on Seth in case Horus happened to lose against him... which the other gods also averted, by making some deal with the foreign god off-scene and that they still haven't let readers know. And the other god (Thoth) kinda teased Isis a little saying the reason her plan failed is also due to Isis' own prior curse on herself, that not even she would get what she wanted, which also helped to avert her own disaster. Meaning, Isis couldn't succeed because she had already sort of... screwed herself over beforehand. So no, I can't hate her for trying to pull that s..., because she is ultimately also the reason that crisis was averted.

(She had cursed herself too because she had thought at the time she also deserved punishment for not being able to make herself stop loving Osiris even in spite of everything that she had seen him do. And that curse ultimately saved her from succeeding with that insane flooding/drowning revenge plan that she would've ended regretting forever. )

As for her reasons for wanting revenge, and sleeping with Osiris in order to have Horus, she told Seth the reason herself, after Seth realized she knew all along everything that Osiris had done. He asked her why she wasn't trying to get her revenge on Osiris instead of him, and she basically replied it's because she wants revenge for the things that Seth did to her between Osiris' death and Horus conception. She said Seth had used Osiris' acts as a private excuse to himself to finally replace him as king, and that this is why he had imprisoned and tortured Isis so he could exploit her, even if she was innocent who allegedly knew nothing about her husband's doings, because Seth at the time had only cared about himself and about trying to force her into becoming his queen just to get his new rule recognized by the people (Seth had trapped her for centuries in a labyrinth in complete darkness, tortured her, persecuted the humans she protected thus making them turn against her and blame her for their suffering, killed the others she still had left, induced enough fear in the other Nile river gods to make them betray and abandon her to her fate when she needed them the most, isolated her from any other gods that could have intervened in her favor... etc etc etc.)

She argued with Seth that he must have never really seen her as a true friend or even as an equal, if he never trusted her enough to try asking for her help about Osiris' misdeeds... and if he had never even bothered to tell her the truth about why he had suddenly betrayed Isis' friendship instead of just Osiris.... Isis pointed out that Seth had spent centuries withholding the truth from Isis, so much so that in the end she had to find out the truth through other means and decide to come up to Seth herself, confronting him with the facts. Meanwhile he, Seth, had been trying to exploit Isis' ignorance of his real motives in order to make her suffer even more in her state of confusion, him rejoicing in her feelings of betrayal at not knowing why one of her closest friends had suddenly decided to turn so viciously against her... Isis told Seth the only reason he withheld the truth from her to the very end, and never tried to tell her, was his complete selfishness and his secret wish deep down to become king, after all, as Osiris' actions in the end had only served him as a private excuse to himself for torturing and persecuting others while he was going after what he really wanted.

And... I kind of agree with her. I mean, even if she were wrong and Seth never actually wanted to become king, she still has sound logic and infinitely valid reasons for thinking all of that...

Heartbreaking.

So Osiris knew Seth considered a child to be a bond for people in love and he came up with THAT conclusion/solution/plan...Osiris is insane.

Thank you for thanking the time to reply. Appreciate it greatly.

Wow.

I felt that everything I was seeing in the raws was just too convenient for it to "just happen."

This is the structure used by abusers, they chip at the other's confidence so they can exert control and power over them.

He wanted Seth to comply even if he had to chip away at him and destroy him in the process cause once he had him he would take care of Seth (cause he "loved" him)

Amazing story telling. And I had been stupidly skipping it.

Thank you so much.

No... Heidel means one of the most disgusting moments in the story when...
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... undead Osiris showed up right after some Horus x Seth action "clean up" Seth's body from Horus' "leftovers"... via running his spouting vines right through Seth's abdomen... which came out of his back holding Horus' "seed"... (the most disgutsing thing I have ever seen in a webtoon, it has to be admited).

Lol, Seth can't get pregnant? I dunno about that... I mean, if we go by the myth... (=・ω・=)
And we still don't know if Osiris managed to leave some of that darn "goddess reproductive essence" inside him or not...
Anyway, happy to oblige... it's my pleasure to give people "much traumatizing" info whenever requested... ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

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