I usually like long and involved manga, but this one was perfect just the way it was. If the story had been drawn out further, there would have been too much anxiety between them. This was really just perfect. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see more of their happy life together though.
Even after such a long time, the characters and plots still compel a reader to turn the page.
That was time so well spent. I enjoyed this as it updated, but it was even better all at once. This is a couple where you feel so confident in their feelings for each other that It's not a matter of IF they can weather a problem but HOW they will weather it. That, to me, is far more interesting and enjoyable to read about. It also takes a bit more writing skill to portray, since anyone can write a "stress>breakup>makeup" scene. Finding new and interesting dilemmas and new and interesting solutions is harder to write but way more fun to read.
Who in their right mind gives a hairy left testicle if a guy likes sweet things or not?! I am so confuse! You like what you like and the way you look has no bearing on it. "I have brown eyes so I have to like X" and "I have blue eyes so I must like Y". What the fuckety fuck, Chuck? Is this some fucked up metaphor for gender role stereotypes? Because if it is, it blows. It's ludicrous and not remotely relatable or believable. It's as likely for a man to enjoy sweet things as it is for a woman. Worse, by pushing a stereotype that only women and wimps eat sweets and then making the character who likes sweets gay is a slap in the face. It's veiled homophobia. I'm sure the manga will go on to show that stereotypes are stupid and no one really pays attention to them anymore and that is a laudable moral to portray. However, in the attempt to break one stereotype, I think the mangaka and the editors missed an even bigger one that they, themselves, are expressing - ie. Gay = wimpy & feminine. Perhaps I am reading too much into it and perhaps I am overly sensitive to it because of the ubiquitous veiled homophobia and passive-aggressive insults rampant in this genre OR the mangaka and editors involved in this genre don't even realize themselves how homophobic they, and this genre, can be. Yes, this is fiction and it's best left to the realm of fantasy, but when I read posts on this site about yaoi readers who believe they "know more about the 'gay world' than a gay man because of all the yaoi they read", I have to wonder if the right messages are being conveyed to young readers. Subliminally reinforcing homophobic stereotypes to young, impressionable readers will do nothing to abate these false and ludicrous beliefs. It will only exacerbate them.
It's actually a very cultural thing. In Japan people who like sweets are seen as feminine so if a guy likes sweets he gains a "less cool" image. This also applies to women who don't like sweets though, they're seen as more masculine and tough and many men find that undesirable. But it's just a stereotype honestly and not everyone thinks that way nowadays.
Another serious question... How far into my comment did you read? Did you get to the important part or did you stop at "hairy left testicle"? I covered that this is a stereotype but I went on to express how poorly this stereotype was used to show that a gay man = wimpy and effeminate and that this type of correlation is veiled homophobia. THAT is the important part of my comment. I appreciate your attempts to explain and reassure me, I really do, but you skipped the crux of my comment. Why would you respond to something you only read halfway through? See, the first few sentences are used as bait to get the reader to notice. The words are shocking, expletives and funny in the hope that the reader will want to read further to see what else I will say. Once the bait is taken, the reader is then offered my views on a more serious topic. You were a fish that "stole the bait and ran away". LOL I don't actually care about the "sweets" stereotype. The veiled homophobia is a much bigger issue. What do you think about the veiled and blatant homophobia found in yaoi? Do you notice it? Does it bother you? I'd love to hear your views on the *real* serious question I was asking.
You need to chill out lol. The person should have read the entire comment but if you want to keep a reader’s attention, maybe sum it up instead of writing an entire page lmao.
OR you could make your giant texts into multiple paragraphs which would be easier to read. All your comments feel so squished together.
I'll do all that you ask when you go fuck your mother. How's that for a deal? Concise and clear enough for you? Simple minded fucktard.
I didn’t ask, I was just giving out some advice because it seems like no one’s interested in what you have to say :)
And it looks like it worked, you didn’t respond with a giant ass book this time! I’m so glad I could help!
talk abt not knowing better :) you have been a good laugh rlly. thanks for those hilarious and hypocritical comments dear keyboard warrior-san.
Funny how he says the first person didn't read completely his comment and badly reacts to that, yet when someone actually does read it and give ideas he tells them to fuck their mother...
So much for trying to be the good guy denouncing homophobia...
I think the author/editor didn't realize it was kinda homophobic. I didn't either until you pointed it out. I find it believable that guys eating sweets are frowned upon, especially the cool guys, but I put it down to cultural thing much like holding hands in public is embarrassing and disregard the fact even if I can't relate.
I think the point was intended to be something like "another man respects you as a man even if you like sweets (and values your worth more than SHALLOW women.)" Liking/Judging someone based on their looks is bad and shallow, eating sweets isn't uncool etc. but it's true that now it can also be seen as "eating sweets -> you're kinda feminine -> you're gay" which is the most basic (and stupidest) stereotype.
i thing the MC is a closeted sweet lover. When you eat different to your cultural standard you're being frown upon and it can blow to amazing evil
Isn't it nice to consider discrimination in those less observed places
they are so many things that generate bias, including what you eat or what you look like (ikemen or try being a smart blond) and of course being gay.
and with them bias, as many closet to escape jugement.
I did not perceive this choice as homophobic either, even more gay characters are just neatly integrated in the narrative and there is no fuss or question about same sex couple being "unnatural" or not "normal", by all the one that brought the subject but rather in a "non remarquable way" which is ideal
Finally! A manga that has realistic conflicts an established gay couple would face. Even though the "topping" issue is stated in the summary, there are deeper and more important issues this couple faces and it is portrayed in a mature and realistic way. The art is wonderful and the writing flow is really perfect. Everything moved the way you'd expect it to in real life. This actually makes me ecstatic! To see real issues dealt with in a realistic way is so refreshing gives me so much hope for LGBT acceptance in Japan. I think my favorite part of this manga was the banter between the couple during sex. I have been married for 22 years and they sounded just like me and my husband. It was written and portrayed perfectly. Also, kudos go to ExRS for the fantastic translation and thanks for all the awesome recipes!
The art is gorgeous, the writing is smooth with a pace that is neither too slow nor rushed, the characters develop naturally and beautifully and the sex is both hot and sweet. I don't like a lot of heavy and negative realism in my stories, but I do enjoy characters that act like someone would in real life. The seme's frank and instant refusal without being over the top rude is how I've refused people and seen others refused. It felt real without being homophobic or derogatory. The progression of the seme's feelings were also very believable. The uke's concern and confusion over the seme's age and future were also very believable. This was an all around great manga. It's hot, sweet smooth and best of all believable. This is going in my favorites list.
It started out promising and felt like the author just got lost or gave up half way through. The plot concept is good, but the delivery went poorly from about the fifth chapter. The most egregious error made was to promote an incredible secondary character and then poof he's conveniently gone with no explanation or discussion of his welfare. We know Min was afraid of his stepfather and was injured at the time of his disappearance from the story. Then, nothing. Just a happily ever after that is as contrived as the woodsman killing the wolf and pulling two live people from his belly in Red Riding Hood. I'll give it two stars for art, but that is generous.
Feel as though the mangaka has no idea how to tell a story. The main protagonists are left in a state of tension and unresolved conflict when their story ends. Then, we are subjected to a long winded shit-show of a story for an ANTAGONIST that serves no purpose except to waste time, ink, paper, data and brain cells. To top it all off, the antagonist's story has the potential to see him show character growth, yet by the last frame there is none. Even in the prequel, the mangaka can't keep the MC's backstory straight. Does he have parents or not? There is a good reason that there are only to manga listed for this mangaka/writing team... you can figure out what that is, right?
It felt like a shounen crammed into a yaoi. I hate it when the story and plot just don't fit the genre, but the mangaka or editors try to squeeze it in. There is no feeling of love between the uke and seme for me. It's like they were forced together by the mangaka. There is no natural flow to their relationship. It felt like the entire premise was, "I like the grandfather, but he rejected me so I'm stuck with the grandson." Anyone who gave the uke attention would have been sufficient. Just the whole writing and development was piss-poor.
The themes are deep. This isn't your typical fluffy yaoi, but it's not "Miyamoto" deep and angsty either. Nor is it "Harada" twisted. This manga's style is unique and well balanced making it very easy to enjoy even though the depth and realism makes it kinda dark. I enjoyed stories that I thought I wouldn't. I'm impressed.