Poopy Momster May 6, 2021 7:38 pm

didn’t expect to love this as much as i did. i loved the art style too

Poopy Momster May 6, 2021 5:36 am

i think “calop” might be a sound for when the call is answered, just inferring tho

Poopy Momster May 5, 2021 11:22 am

the secretary is so sassy he’s so cute

Poopy Momster May 5, 2021 2:08 am

this was so unsatisfying... like the chemistry was just not there, with the friend would have been a better ending. i kept waiting for it too like for him and kousuke to get together lmao

Poopy Momster May 2, 2021 8:53 pm

i LOVE this like dude i love scary x cute tropes but this one was just so ... idk how to describe it but there was minimal drama and the relationship became established fast and it wasn’t extra dramatic or awkward or weird, it was just so enjoyable

Poopy Momster May 2, 2021 11:52 am

i feel like blondie (the one in the band) is more perceptive than he seems

Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 3:29 am

this is literally pedophilia, he’s almost 30 and the other one is 15... nah because, i’m not sure about the age of consent in japan but either way this is pedophilia, and i’ve been a fan of this manga since i was younger so i’ve always tried to forget about the age gap but now that i’m older i’m kind of... put off? idk but it just doesn’t sit right

    lucifer May 1, 2021 4:30 am

    ive done my researches. kousuke is 28 and masahiro is 17, and the age of consent in japan is 13. lmfao, im sorta speechless ig

    lii May 1, 2021 7:29 am

    lmao all the pedos disliking your comment are embarrassing

    iwaterdirty May 1, 2021 10:16 am

    Is it really pedo when both sides wants it?

    Nowodles May 1, 2021 11:48 am
    lmao all the pedos disliking your comment are embarrassing lii

    someone disliking a comment doesn’t make them a pedo

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 12:32 pm
    Is it really pedo when both sides wants it? iwaterdirty

    that’s called grooming

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 12:33 pm
    lmao all the pedos disliking your comment are embarrassing lii

    right?? bye lmfao i knew it was gonna happen

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 12:35 pm
    ive done my researches. kousuke is 28 and masahiro is 17, and the age of consent in japan is 13. lmfao, im sorta speechless ig lucifer

    masahiro was like 13 when they met and 15 when they got together... v creepy, and honestly japan’s consent laws are disgusting, it’s still pedophilia whether or not it’s legal lol

    Amatiste May 1, 2021 1:33 pm

    The age of consent is 13, yet the age of when they are legally counted as adult is 20...below 20 they are still counted as minors...confusing indeed...

    I'm aware of the age gap since the start and tried hard to ignore that to proceed with reading. What really bothers me is the fact Kousuke was the one kept being risky, feeling him up at school, proposition to make out and later sex was also him first. While Masahiro even have more decency when he's much younger, those made me cringe so much

    NoName May 1, 2021 3:51 pm

    *sniffles* It is a good story tbh, but I wished their relationship was low key and went sexual when Masahiro turns 18. ╥﹏╥

    Moonriver May 1, 2021 4:41 pm

    I think its fucked up and problematic but it isn't pedophilia? Yes he's a teenager, but he's not a child (mentally, emotionally and physically teens are already different developed as children). In my opnion we should point out how predatory and problematic age gaps are but for me it can be compared with pedophilia. But again, it doesn't take out that kousuke groomed masahiro, and forced him to develop a sexual life that he wasn't ready to have.

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 6:32 pm
    I think its fucked up and problematic but it isn't pedophilia? Yes he's a teenager, but he's not a child (mentally, emotionally and physically teens are already different developed as children). In my opnion we... Moonriver

    i totally agree with you, personally i’m still associating it with both predatory and pedophilia. but i think he was definitely groomed. even though consent laws are 13 in japan (that in itself is messed up) doesn’t justify this because masahiro is not a legal adult (20) meaning kousuke sexual feeling towards him are pedophilia

    Maddiex May 1, 2021 7:43 pm
    i totally agree with you, personally i’m still associating it with both predatory and pedophilia. but i think he was definitely groomed. even though consent laws are 13 in japan (that in itself is messed up) ... Poopy Momster

    Age of consent aside, the grooming is creepier. A better man would wait until Masa is out of school, atleast. Those teacher student relationships we see in manga are mostly persuaded by student to make it feel less awkward. But Kousuke active pursue Masa, a child, for sexual activities.

    I'm 26 and to me, every person younger than 20 is a child.



    tl,dr: Kousuke is definitely a pedo.

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 9:10 pm
    Age of consent aside, the grooming is creepier. A better man would wait until Masa is out of school, atleast. Those teacher student relationships we see in manga are mostly persuaded by student to make it feel ... Maddiex

    totally, and even waiting until he was an adult would have been weird as well, especially since masahiro spent a lot of time with kousuke when he was 13+ as a sort of “older brother” role

    Moon May 1, 2021 10:23 pm
    The age of consent is 13, yet the age of when they are legally counted as adult is 20...below 20 they are still counted as minors...confusing indeed...I'm aware of the age gap since the start and tried hard to ... Amatiste

    THISS!! Tbh the age gap doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they are teacher and student. And Kousuke is so open about his sexual advances towards Masahiro even at school. Most student-teacher mangas that I don't find uncomfortable are the ones where the student initiates and the teacher always refuses at first until they're out of school.

    This just made me see Kousuke as just a creepy old man

    Kuzo May 1, 2021 10:56 pm

    Well, love is love regardless age gap and gender.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    As a person who not really know about grooming a child, I dont see such strange behaviour in him related to grooming.

    All I see he quite possesive and an active man for that but at least he hold back. I means there also some mangas of students doing sex in school too, so why not them too? We also can see his thoughts too.

    He also mentioned that he do noticed big boob sensei which means he kinda attracted toward that woman abit which I thinks he not gay nor pedo. Just someone who love his spouse regardless gender and age and the person he happen to fall in love is someone who below 20.

    About sex, we also know ALOT people already lost their dick, vagina, butthole virgin at under 20. I means my mom had my big brother at age 18(Lost to my mom cuz Im still fcking virgin at 21 lel). And other people in this manga doesnt seem to mind about their age gap which I guess they do know he would not do such things as grooming imo.

    Only characters in the manga know his true personality while we as a readers considered as outsiders since we dont really know their true color. The author would gave us vague details about their personality that causing us to imagine things like this. If people said bad things aboout our personality and looks, we would usually say "Dont look by its cover"

    So, yea. we can do assumptions but let not ruin the moods and could potentially decrease author's sales since we just read illegally.

    BlueTundra May 1, 2021 11:06 pm
    ive done my researches. kousuke is 28 and masahiro is 17, and the age of consent in japan is 13. lmfao, im sorta speechless ig lucifer

    Holy shit! 13

    I seriously had no idea. That explains a lot. I've been like, what's up w/the age gaps in some of these mangas.

    Thnx :)

    Poopy Momster May 2, 2021 2:39 am
    Well, love is love regardless age gap and gender.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~As a person who not really know about grooming a child, I dont see such strange behaviour in him related to grooming. All I see he quite po... Kuzo

    not being mean but bring that crap somewhere else, my post wasn’t an open invitation for people to defend pedophilia. i don’t care if he’s expressed attraction towards a women of his peer, the fact is that he had helped raise and form bonds (as an adult) with a child then went into a sexual relationship with him(which is the definition of grooming!!) and although the age of consent is 13, adult x minor relationships are still illegal, being old enough for consent is being able to consent sexually to another minor, not a loophole for pedophilia!! and i do NOT care if the author receives support because they wrote a manga that contains pedophilia (amongst other things). so don’t bring that “love is love regardless of age gap” bullshit bc it’s literally illegal. whether or not it’s real it’s promoting it! and this is also a harmful stereotype for the lgbtq+ community that they are predatory and will make advances on anyone (like you said:) “regardless of gender or age gap”, and is overall not something worth promoting... UGH!!! i hate how ignorant this is. do research because if you’re 21, like you say, you’re a legal adult and if legal adults like you have this way of thinking then i can only fear for younger people.

    Amatiste May 2, 2021 3:18 am
    Well, love is love regardless age gap and gender.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~As a person who not really know about grooming a child, I dont see such strange behaviour in him related to grooming. All I see he quite po... Kuzo

    Just my opinion, but isn't what you said kinda sounds romanticizing? Plus bringing up Kousuke noticed a big boob sensei and then says he isn't gay or pedo is just jumping too far and literally not the point of discussion here tho.

    And then bringing your mom who was 18 when pregnant...well in a lot of countries 17/18 already legal adult tho...And the point here is that the male who actively seek sexual pleasure from a 15.y.o teen who is still a legally a minor is someone who is 27 years old, his own teacher, bringing him to love hotels to have sex, making out at school when the teen feels insecure he said "no one is here anyway" and then when Masahiro rejected his advances he SULKED, making masahiro, a lonely child feared of abandonment due to family trauma, felt guilty and then try to rectify it by offering to comfort Kousuke, and Kousuke the adult he is, accepted it..

    Look, there's something very wrong with Kousuke alright, he doesn't have a sense of an adult let alone a teacher.

    And what part of Kousuke is actually holding back? If he held back then he won't make sexual advances until Masahiro is adult
    And comparing this to manga where teacher x student had sex at school, actually those setting are usually hardcore yaoi one-shot aiming to be porn tho, might not be turn into anime..
    this one is different because there's plot here and it got so famous and made into anime labeled shounen-ai so lots of other teens can also access...but the nature of the problem still exist even in the anime.

    Actually I just stay for the comedy between Masahiro and Ken-tan and friends which is heartwarming, I watched anime first so I read manga to get more content, in the end I got shookth so bad that they actually had regular sex here in the manga and most of them are initiated by Kousuke and brought him to love hotels... i am speechless

    Amatiste May 2, 2021 3:59 am
    THISS!! Tbh the age gap doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they are teacher and student. And Kousuke is so open about his sexual advances towards Masahiro even at school. Most student-teacher mangas tha... Moon

    IKR! I watched the anime first cuz ppl kept recommending it to me and said it was very famous, and it's shounen-ai so ofc I see no reason not too.. I didn't know anything about any of the characters, so I thought it was about high school BL. And then I felt so uncomfortable about Kousuke being a teacher and was the one provoking the teen to confess his feelings.. And kiss him first at school! But in the end they just cuddled and nothing more so I was like, okay, I can ignore the prev advances but this guy literally not right as an adult.. Not just him, his friends who already knew yet brushed it off, that detective guy, also not right ffs, asking the teen that kinda question and then deduce everything is alright just cuz the feeling is mutual

    I watched the anime officially btw, so I hope I'm not putting money into sth dirty here ( ̄へ ̄)

    And they ppl say the manga has more stories, and better timeline so I came here. And I was shocked to the core that they aren't only have regular sex here but also Kousuke brought him regularly to love hotels and is so demanding also have no reservation in showing it to his own brother and friends ffs...

    I just think if the author age up everything, so Masahiro is 20 y.o uni student and Kousuke a lecturer, it still get the forbidden love between teacher x student, if that was what they try to aim here... Also between that time Kousuke was away for years anyway so they don't always together or grew up as brothers..
    Which means when Masahiro met Ken-tan it was at junior high school, makes more sense compared to elementary school student getting involves with a bunch of Adult thugs, right..

    Anyway I skimmed those sex scenes between them and Just stay here because Masahiro and Ken-tan's friendship is really funny and heartwarming to me, but yeaah I won't buy the manga officially if I knew I skipped lots of things anyway and knew not even 1 adult here actually has brains

    NoName May 2, 2021 4:16 am
    not being mean but bring that crap somewhere else, my post wasn’t an open invitation for people to defend pedophilia. i don’t care if he’s expressed attraction towards a women of his peer, the fact is tha... Poopy Momster

    Okay, hear me out. I'm not defending the person who you were replying to but I guess you sort of misinterpreted their words(but the way they tried to convey it is also...confusing). First of all, yes love is love regardless of 'gender' Not 'age'. If the person is at least 20 or maybe 18 bottom line, engaging in a 'sexual' relationship with not his peers but someone wayyy elder to him that is legal, and it makes it more comfortable to read. Ngl, my brain filtered out Kousuke's age multiple times while reading this. Now, I think what this person was telling us is that 'this is all fiction'(yes, I'm using that card) and we should still support the author regardless because they make a living drawing and writing these mangas. (The rest were...debatable topics they wrote). There are many, many problems with this manga as the author tried putting a 'possessive troupe' on an adult man engaging with a minor which led to uncomfortable situations. Welp, I'm still gonna read it though cause I like the characters and the story line and I'm waiting for the impending drama lmao. Just remember to cast a line between fiction and reality. (=・ω・=)

    Moonriver May 2, 2021 5:09 am
    Just my opinion, but isn't what you said kinda sounds romanticizing? Plus bringing up Kousuke noticed a big boob sensei and then says he isn't gay or pedo is just jumping too far and literally not the point of ... Amatiste

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "His own teacher, bringing him to love hotels to have sex, making out at school when the teen feels insecure he said "no one is here anyway" and then when Masahiro rejected his advances he SULKED, making masahiro, a lonely child feared of abandonment due to family trauma, felt guilty and then try to rectify it by offering to comfort Kousuke, and Kousuke the adult he is, accepted it.."

    I've completely forgotten this!!!!!! It just came once again how much I felt horrible while I saw the anime and read the manga. The way a grown men forced sex on a 15y ... fucked asf ...... horrible. Horriiiibeleblebelebeleb..... I was also in chock when I realized how problematic the story was... And exactly WHAT WAS THE REASON OF THE AGE CHOICE ??? Like, whyyyyyy, WHY.... there's no ok explanation

    Amatiste May 2, 2021 5:51 am
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "His own teacher, bringing him to love hotels to have sex, making out at school when the teen feels insecure he said "no one is here anyway" and then when Masahiro rejected his advances he SUL... Moonriver

    I still remember because I just finished watching the anime around last week and binge-reading the manga this week... Not only Kousuke but his friends... Smh
    You know everytime I saw one character tried to bring that problems up, be it Hasekura or that detective and his wife, I kept hoping they wud finally address the issue, only to be disappointed the next since they brushed it off just like that?!

    Masahiro's friends actually left him to Kousuke alone at house so they can engage in sexual activities also makes me sad. All the adults don't even have single braincells not to report Kousuke.

    NGL I felt literally nauseous about this whole issue so why I skimmed lots of pages.. and it's the 1st time I felt this way. I'm not used reading this troupe but I totally thought before this is a cute story yet there were many dark holes filled with knives hidden beyond this colorful and seemingly simple anime Σ(  ̄□ ̄||) I am completely proven wrong

    Anyway to those commenter saying this is just fiction, it's not like we discuss here because we cannot separate fiction from reality tho...

    Poopy Momster May 2, 2021 11:22 am
    Okay, hear me out. I'm not defending the person who you were replying to but I guess you sort of misinterpreted their words(but the way they tried to convey it is also...confusing). First of all, yes love is lo... NoName

    yeah, i was just feeling mad that they were defending and romanticizing it, and they also watered down the seriousness of it but yeah, in the end it’s fictional characters and honestly from the art style you can’t tell their ages so i’ll still read it but there are moments in the manga where uts brought up and it makes me cringe. despite it being fiction, it can still lead people to downplay how serious this would be if it was in real like, which really concerns me since so many people (specifically legal adults) were defending it

    Poopy Momster May 2, 2021 11:26 am
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "His own teacher, bringing him to love hotels to have sex, making out at school when the teen feels insecure he said "no one is here anyway" and then when Masahiro rejected his advances he SUL... Moonriver

    YUP YUP!! THIS!! so true! even without age of consent, this is an extremely manipulative situation. kousuke knows masahiros situation and almost uses it against him and the author makes it seem like comfort but really it’s him using his dependency on validation and on his relationship with him to keep him coming. also what baffles me is how kousuke adult friends know about this and root for it?? and age of consent means being able to get married or like on your own or soemthing, not engage in sexual acts with adults yk

    Kuzo May 2, 2021 11:51 am
    not being mean but bring that crap somewhere else, my post wasn’t an open invitation for people to defend pedophilia. i don’t care if he’s expressed attraction towards a women of his peer, the fact is tha... Poopy Momster

    That's why I said "As a person who doesnt really know about grooming a child". This is just perspective from someone who doesnt know if what kind of behaviour of someone grooming a child.

    I dont defend pedophile but there also real definition of pedophile and grooming child, right? You know like pluto is not a planet becuz he didnt pass the last stage for definition of planet despite its look like a planet.

    So, I dont really know what characteristics for people getting called as pedophile and grooming. Is it all becuz :
    1. The victim is minor.
    2.The criminal prefer child age.
    3. The criminal love victim despite partner struggle to run away from him
    4.
    5.

    Try to do something like above this. I just want to know what your definition for those. All people have different definition of everything which 50 or 70 similar to each other.

    This is my definition for pedo and grooming AS someone who do not really know about them :
    1. The victim is really minor age, Ex : 4-14 yrs old and if the victim is woman, 4-20 yrs old. Why? Becuz we have different strength, woman have low strength in term physical right unles the criminals stupidly dont thinks how strong their victim are.

    (Masahiro[MC] is minor age in everyone eyes. So I tick. )

    2. The criminal preference is someone who minor age.

    (Kousuke[ML] do not have such preference. It's hinted that he abit attracted to big boob sensei due to uh.. big boobs. So I assumed he preference is big boobs woman. MC kinda insecured since he know he just a student and a man and it seems he know Kousuke is straight who love womans. So he afraid, he may leave him for a woman. So, it's no )

    3. The criminal manipulated and teased(like rubs strange place of your body) the victim and appeased the victim it's just a skinship.

    ( ML didnt do such weird things except he kissed MC(or maybe no, I dont remember that much) when he heard MC love petite girls and have crush on a girl despite they do not in romantic relationship. He does weird stuff after they confirmed their relationship as lovers. So, it's no unless you guys can find other scene)

    4. The criminal manipulated victim to have sexual relationship with criminal.

    (It's no . Why? If Im not mistaken, ML even refused MC to reciprocate his feelings when scene of MC offer himself to buy ML some cigarettes then ML kinda forgot(maybe becuz he blank out) that minor cant buy cigarette, so he walk out after him.)

    Idk what else. But yea.Tell me if I forgot anything.

    So the answer : Kousuke pretty sure not grooming but I guess he is pedo ONLY becuz he have sexual relationship with Masahiro who is minor age.


    But if you keep saying he is pedo and grooming, tell me why and which scene that made him creepy af. Also, put yourself in that manga as one of their friends.

    No offend. I also confused actually. I have instinct telling him is pedo and grooming but my mind kinda thinks he is not. He just want love. Also, imo MC forced him to accept his feelings becuz I assumed he has soft heart which made him fell to trap of love and pedo.

    Yes, he is an adult but not everyone have great rational for long terms.

    Kuzo May 2, 2021 12:20 pm
    Just my opinion, but isn't what you said kinda sounds romanticizing? Plus bringing up Kousuke noticed a big boob sensei and then says he isn't gay or pedo is just jumping too far and literally not the point of ... Amatiste

    I feel it do related to big boobs sensei as it hinted he is straight and prefer someone who the same age as him.

    Someone said about 20 or 21 is legally adult and they said below that is still minor in their opinions, So, I just bring out my mom situation. Yes, I agree he kinda manipulated him in that way but I guess 28 yrs man is healthy man.

    Well, if we applied our terms in real world to manga world, I guess they dont becuz we cant see their all day routine. If they do, poor author. QwQ Just like porn video, they only show sexual sht only. We should know every chapter is not every single day in rows. Maybe they skip from day 1 to day 25.

    He did holding back but I dont said in that way. And i read back their firsr sex...:
    1. Well.. I saw ML surprised when MC said to be gentle with him. Which means he consented BUT I know people said minors dont have right to consent.

    2. Also before that....ML lil brother who made ML fell into trap of pedo and released the beast. Such a villain.. ML brother and his bf give them free time during Saturday to do this and that.. Haha...

    3. For school, he did said he dont hate to do it in school. He said no becuz he cant catch up with his head.

    Just like I said, maybe they dont do that often....(due to skip days). Maybe they did but I dont think author want to show them all. In the end we just assumed from translation dialogue and scenes.

    Amatiste May 2, 2021 12:45 pm
    That's why I said "As a person who doesnt really know about grooming a child". This is just perspective from someone who doesnt know if what kind of behaviour of someone grooming a child.I dont defend pedophile... Kuzo

    I know you're not answering me, but reading this makes me itch so much. I hope there'll be less ppl like you defending Kousuke's actions which are completely illegal and not right. And that you only thought this way cuz you really didn't understand the issue.

    Yes it is fiction, bu this is set in modern days Japan, not some lawless jungle in ancient times where laws are easy to trample. Otherwise, why wud the issue was repeatedly brought out in the manga? Clearly the conscient is there, but then completely brushed off the next, which is why it is off-putting.

    You can keep reading the fiction but don't hesitate to say sth is wrong when it clearly is!

    Just because there is mutual love isn't making
    illicit things pertain to law become okay. This will be my last answer in this thread, cuz I just recently read so everything is still fresh in my memories:

    Please remember that it is NOT only about Masahiro'a physics able to defend Kousuke in terms of strength but the reason why minors aren't allowed is also because their mind is still prone to indecisiveness and hence is easy to manipulate. Especially those with history of neglect and mental trauma like Masahiro.

    I am putting myself in Masahiro's friend that wants the best for him. I don't deny they love each other, but Kousuke did come first to provoke Masahiro into facing his feeling. Even when he said he won't be able to reciprocate.

    What you forgot are:
    1. Before Masahiro can come into terms with accepting his feeling, he kissed him at school, the one when he covered with the book, to provoke him further.

    2.When Masahiro avoided him more, he barged into his house, later Kousuke said that when he said he couldn't reciprocate is actually a shock therapy so Masahiro can come clean with his feeling! This is what I called provoking, he knew exactly that Masahiro isn't ready to admit to it yet he still did it, in the end he got the confirmation Masahiro likes him and using that excuse to pursue him, both romantically and sexually.

    3. You can't deny it is Kousuke who proposition Masahiro first, he might not say lets have sex first but since they confirmed hia relationship, Kousuke didn't hold back in kissing and feeling him up first, and sulked when masahiro rejected his moves! Masahiro already in puberty so he understood what Kousuke actually wanted and after that offer himself. Still if Kousuke kept his hands to himself and does what Adults should do which is not to touch minors in sexual way, then I bet Masahiro won't be so rush to do it with him. Masahiro was also doubtful back then if he should, his decision is more to prove himself to Kousuke rather than his own need of sexual relief.

    4. First time He brought him to love hotel, Masahiro didn't know they were going there! They thought they were just going to get fresh air.

    One of his friend, Shige, repeatedly said out loud how Kousuke's behaviors ain't right as a teacher and adult and it is bad influnce for Masahiro. He actually the one with brain here but he can't do anything, he doesn't have power and instead his story made him look like a spoiled child trying to ruin the relationship instead. Just look at how many commenters him calling him a little bitch.

    Kuzo May 2, 2021 1:19 pm
    I know you're not answering me, but reading this makes me itch so much. I hope there'll be less ppl like you defending Kousuke's actions which are completely illegal and not right. And that you only thought thi... Amatiste

    Umm... You're in wrong reply... The one that you replied to is me to PoopMonster. There are two people who replied to me and it's you and PoopMonster.

    I agree it's wrong but only stupid people who got influenced by this manga to do the same to the person they love just like this manga.

    Im just defending Kousuke becuz he got called as creepy old man which I see he is not.

    That's true for strength. I forgot about mental..

    1. I didnt forget that. I already mentioned in (3)

    2. I guess you misunderstood. ML actually shocked which why he refused him. Also, he said, "Even if I say straight to your face, I doubt you'll accept me. That's what I though". Then, MC said he not good for ML causing ML being frustrated. Then, they got interrupted by gangster and ML said he got furious from getting dumped so he want to vent anger on them. You can see, yes. He making excuses but he said the truth to his heart. Imo, MC actually provoked him to do so. I guess they provoked each other if that what you means...

    3. Yes that true. Alot story where their partner forget about their own sexual relief and thinking having sex is one of duties and weirdly enough they're adults yet still doesnt know that. I just hope Kousuke teach him about that. Their first sex, ML said MC is the type the one who lost control when he absorbed into something. This indicated he love em,so I dont mind as long they love to

    NoName May 2, 2021 1:20 pm
    yeah, i was just feeling mad that they were defending and romanticizing it, and they also watered down the seriousness of it but yeah, in the end it’s fictional characters and honestly from the art style you ... Poopy Momster

    Yup. I totally understand. And really though, although some people(including me) feel bad on hearing things like this about a story they like, it is something we have to accept that morally, this story Is Not acceptable. And yes, for legal adults to be defending Kousuke is concerning. For me, as long as one can differentiate between reality and fiction I can stomach quite a lot of weird shit. But once people start showing signs and defending the wrong stuff while clearly, in this case, you are right about the uncomfortable actions of Kousuke and the age gap that is where the line becomes blurred and it's a reason for concern.

    Kuzo May 2, 2021 1:24 pm

    to each other.

    Hehe. Sorry, even Idk how I accidently post em

    4. I agree for that. I guess author want to make it funny but instead, alot overseas fans hate that.


    The reason they called him a bitch becuz he is a bitch. He is rational but not for his own desires. The latest is show how toxic his relationship with Natsuo if Im not mistaken.

    Reply to you made me realized that all their relationships with their partners is slightly toxic and fluffy fluff probably just a cover up.

    Kuzo May 2, 2021 1:30 pm
    Okay, hear me out. I'm not defending the person who you were replying to but I guess you sort of misinterpreted their words(but the way they tried to convey it is also...confusing). First of all, yes love is lo... NoName

    Yess. Someone actually know the weird way of my commenting. QwQ

    Becuz I read two people comments who replied to me, I feel all relationships that I saw and read in manga and reality is toxic af.

    Alot authors really love possessive trait and when it applied to Teacher x Student, it really weird and cause drama like thiss.

    I need you for becoming my translator of my mind. QwQ

    Moonriver May 2, 2021 3:18 pm

    Guys, Im loving it to read this conversation! Having disagreements are great to realize things that we didn't, once we try to respond those disagreements.
    But I think one thing that maybe it also make people to no think, that kousuke its a pedo is: culture difference.
    Example, in my country age of consent is 14, and you become a legal adult in society eyes and in law at 18. And here its superrrrr commom big age gaps. So the way I was build I cannot understand this as pedophilia, for me pedophilia is having attraction towards children (age 1-13/14). Which doesn't take out how a adult being interested in a teenager is fucked up, teens are still in a process do develop in many ways. I'm my self very against big age gaps even when you are 22 and the other one 40, I think almost all the time what's on game is: submission, power feelings, hierarchy. Dont know your ages, but like, im 25, and I know how my mind was when I was 20, super ok for what I was experiencing but WHY someome 15, 20 years older than me would want to have something (either the person its dumb, predator or in 0,1% its true and healthy love).
    But I know one couple example that makes me thing how this exceptions works. A women friend's of my sisters engaged in a relationship with a men when she was 16 and he was 24. She's 30 and they're still together and its a super cute and health couple. And I got to know that even though SHE wanted to have sex (here almost everyone loose virginity at age 15/16/17) he waited till she was 19, cause he knew that they're in different life stages, that their sexuality was different cause of age gap, that wouldn't be good for her spend this kind of energy when she was experiencing her teens days/highschool etc. So some points, for me and my culture their age gaps are far from pedophilia, so I think from this point on its good for u to know that I don't see her as child. I still dont think its okkk their age gap at that time, but the way the situation was handle Its good example of HOW predatory kousuke was. If u love someome u care about them and want the best for their lifes. Kousuke just pushed his own desires, wishes on Masahiro. He forced sex, when he implied to a teenager that their relationship wouldn't be full to him if they didn't have sex. He forced Masahiro to realize that he liked him in a very creepy way. Etc etc guys know his flaws hahah. And for last WHY a 27 years old would be interested on a 15 y old boy??? And other big point is, he was around when masahiro was a child...

    Anyways, I said a lot and in the end said nothing hahaha just thoughts. How u guys see the relationship I described?
    Its confuse, cause i know how here patriarchy is, and maybe I dont think is super because of the environment.

    NoName May 2, 2021 3:24 pm
    Yess. Someone actually know the weird way of my commenting. QwQBecuz I read two people comments who replied to me, I feel all relationships that I saw and read in manga and reality is toxic af.Alot authors real... Kuzo

    Lmao it's okay(⌒▽⌒). Ngl your way of commenting is a little weird( hope you don't get offended). I'm glad I caught your drift! (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    NoName May 2, 2021 3:30 pm
    Guys, Im loving it to read this conversation! Having disagreements are great to realize things that we didn't, once we try to respond those disagreements. But I think one thing that maybe it also make people to... Moonriver

    Well, whatever you said, it's understandable and true...sadly ╥﹏╥. About your sister's friend,I'm really glad her lover waited for her to be a legal adult because although teens(I'm still a teen myself) have the fantasy of getting together with older guys, having someone wait for you till you are an adult shows that they aren't with you just for your body. Also, it's not really the age difference that bothers me, it's the fact that their relationship went sexual when Masa was only 16 and Kousuke's uncomfortable advances. My grandparents had a 12 year age difference and they met when they were adults so yeah, the age gap is not the problem, it's the timeline when they met and got into a relationship(personally for me)

    Maddiex May 2, 2021 6:39 pm
    Okay, hear me out. I'm not defending the person who you were replying to but I guess you sort of misinterpreted their words(but the way they tried to convey it is also...confusing). First of all, yes love is lo... NoName

    I'm trying to join the comments, but it's too long and your comment is the last one, so sorry if I say anything offensive to you.

    As a legal adult, now I understand that when the people say "love is love no matter the age gap", it means something like one person being 35 and other being like 50. That's a 15 year gap, but they're both consenting adults who know what they're getting in to.
    Now if you take the same age gap and apply it to a teenager and a person in their 30s, that's creepy and very unethical.

    In my comment above I said that a better man would atleast wait for them to grow up, but when I took a double check, it indeed sounded like groomer waiting for their pray to be ripe for the picking. This incident is unfortunately not unrealistic. So please don't romanticize grooming.

    Moonriver May 2, 2021 7:02 pm
    I'm trying to join the comments, but it's too long and your comment is the last one, so sorry if I say anything offensive to you.As a legal adult, now I understand that when the people say "love is love no matt... Maddiex

    Yeah exactly. And even in adulthood, one thing its a age gap 35-45, 30-48, 55-85 and other is 19-29, 20-3,8 20-50 ....... when I was 19 and creepy 31 old men hitted on me I was like "are u mentally dumb? Get the fuck out of here". Now at 25 its not my preference to date old people hahaha I much rather prefer dating someone same age as me, but the gap its becoming smaller, its all about getting mature and having inner strength to know how to deal with situations, to know your limits and preferences. Before that u are still developing yourself, u just get in the flow and later realize how harmful that was for u.

    NoName May 3, 2021 6:49 pm
    I'm trying to join the comments, but it's too long and your comment is the last one, so sorry if I say anything offensive to you.As a legal adult, now I understand that when the people say "love is love no matt... Maddiex

    I agree. Lmao this will probs be my last comment cause this is getting way to long. Yes, in a way 'love is love no matter the age gap' is okay when applied to TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. Not a minor and an adult. And yes, technically it does sound like a groomer waiting to pluck a ripe cherry, but in this case, it's a fictional story and maybe him waiting till Masa was a legal adult would've been easier to read and enjoy, though in reality that's a big NO. Anywho, you didn't say anything offensive and just stated your point of view without lashing out at others opinions so Issa okay!ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Poopy Momster May 3, 2021 8:42 pm
    I know you're not answering me, but reading this makes me itch so much. I hope there'll be less ppl like you defending Kousuke's actions which are completely illegal and not right. And that you only thought thi... Amatiste

    !! yes thank you for saying this bc i’ve been getting real tired of having to argue with so many people defending kousuke

    Maddiex May 4, 2021 1:19 pm
    Just my opinion, but isn't what you said kinda sounds romanticizing? Plus bringing up Kousuke noticed a big boob sensei and then says he isn't gay or pedo is just jumping too far and literally not the point of ... Amatiste

    Aaaah you get it.... It's just like boku no pico but without the actual porn

Poopy Momster April 30, 2021 2:26 pm

i’m getting s/a vibes from her (the mom)... i feel so bad for him, i used to hate him at first.
also, was i the only one who was like “:0” when i realized that this was about the glasses kid and the grey hair kid rather than the redhead

    Eash April 30, 2021 2:53 pm

    s/a?

    Poopy Momster April 30, 2021 2:54 pm
    s/a? Eash

    tw




    sexual abuse

    Ouranaurora April 30, 2021 4:47 pm
    twsexual abuse Poopy Momster

    ?

    Eash April 30, 2021 5:04 pm
    twsexual abuse Poopy Momster

    ooh I get those vibes from her too

    Ouranaurora April 30, 2021 5:16 pm
    twsexual abuse Poopy Momster

    Oh fuck youre right I just saw the whole comment before it was only showing up tw

    [ Nissy ] May 1, 2021 1:17 am

    Saem, I went ":0" as well

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 3:31 am
    Saem, I went ":0" as well [ Nissy ]

    yeah it was like a “ohhh” moments, i should have noticed since the cover is of them but i didn’t so when it finally clicked i was thinking that it made more sense and was more interesting

    Fatalpoison May 1, 2021 10:17 am

    Nah I knew it was Skylar x Cirrus from the start given the wordplay with their names and the fact Cirrus appears on the cover art

    [ Nissy ] May 1, 2021 12:19 pm
    yeah it was like a “ohhh” moments, i should have noticed since the cover is of them but i didn’t so when it finally clicked i was thinking that it made more sense and was more interesting Poopy Momster

    Yea fr, knowing they were the ones that were set up with each other makes it so much interesting,, that's why i like this so much

    Poopy Momster May 1, 2021 12:39 pm
    Nah I knew it was Skylar x Cirrus from the start given the wordplay with their names and the fact Cirrus appears on the cover art Fatalpoison

    yeah, i’m not rlly good at paying attention so it went over my head lol

    kazama May 1, 2021 8:20 pm

    SERIOUSLY hahaha i didn't even notice in the cover and actually thought cirrus is ugly LMAO he just doesn't look good with kind eyes and standing beside the orange or brown hair guy for me but when his facade disappear boi he definitely an mc not an antagonist and i checked the cover that's where i confirmed. stupid self not looking at the cover

    Fatalpoison May 1, 2021 8:27 pm
    SERIOUSLY hahaha i didn't even notice in the cover and actually thought cirrus is ugly LMAO he just doesn't look good with kind eyes and standing beside the orange or brown hair guy for me but when his facade ... kazama

    I think Cirrus is gorgeous

Poopy Momster April 29, 2021 12:32 pm

i kinda want to see how they react if his college friends find out
not that i’m not satisfied with this relationship bc honestly it’s one of the best yaois i’ve read but i’m a sucker for drama ToT

    Fujoshit April 29, 2021 1:36 pm

    For me, what I want to see is a highschool reunion for keita. I want to see their reaction once they saw the what they taught was a girly keita who's now a hottie keita, along with him getting all drunk and satoshi picking him up. Also keita kissing satoshi infront of his classmates lmao that would be gold

    Jessy April 29, 2021 2:40 pm
    For me, what I want to see is a highschool reunion for keita. I want to see their reaction once they saw the what they taught was a girly keita who's now a hottie keita, along with him getting all drunk and sat... Fujoshit

    Thanks, this is canon on my head now (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Athena258 April 29, 2021 2:44 pm
    For me, what I want to see is a highschool reunion for keita. I want to see their reaction once they saw the what they taught was a girly keita who's now a hottie keita, along with him getting all drunk and sat... Fujoshit

    Omg this sounds like a great idea. I hope the author draws it

    Poopy Momster April 29, 2021 5:50 pm
    For me, what I want to see is a highschool reunion for keita. I want to see their reaction once they saw the what they taught was a girly keita who's now a hottie keita, along with him getting all drunk and sat... Fujoshit

    dude i LOVE this idea now i have another scene to add to me “scenes i want to happen” list (☆▽☆) . the kissing part would be amazing... i love angst and drama in bl _:(´ཀ`」 ∠):


    — i use “dude” gender neutrally btw

Poopy Momster April 28, 2021 5:20 pm

personally i like the t/n because it feels like we’re taking abt it and it’s like relatable yk so when i’m reading and thinking something and the little notes says the same things i’m like “bestie exactly!!”

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