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Agreed.i once thought that romance wouldn't be bad if it was the girl who owned the house he lived in in the village, but when it came to the the godly doctors daughter I just prayed that he wouldn't have a love interest.

Why not she a doctor like him.

That's true. And tbh, there is a spoiler page so I do have an idea of who it may be (I think), but at the same time, I've just never favored love interests that judge so harshly ahead of time. And even if I did, I still likes the previous tenant girl more, as of now. So that's why I pushed that rather than the daughter of the godly doctor (title is awesome but she hasn't won me over with her minimal behaviour thus far).

Mandy J
I feel the same way

Not really. If you lack intelligence sure. But if you have intelligence despite what your parents teach you should still be able to distinguish between what is right and wrong.

if you seriously believe the core problem here lies with the children's intelligence and NOT the parents, you have some issues. do you think kids are born evil? you believe the boy who bullied tia (can't remember his name) just came out of the womb like that? no, both his parents are egomaniacs and have their head up their asses. so the child naturally ended up exactly like his parents, narcissistic and moronic. why are you bringing up intelligence here when the kids we're talking about here are literal 7/8 years olds?? i'm sorry, you want 8 year old children of rich nobles' to be intelligent and thoughtful WITHOUT their parents being so themselves? yeah, good luck with that. i want you to remember how much "intelligence" you had when you were 8.
it's not like i am saying the boy wasn't in the wrong or that he shouldn't be blamed. what i am saying the core problem is the kid's parents and no matter how much the grandpa wants to discipline the kid it's not going to work if he has garbage parents. if you think the kids are entirely to blame for their actions, you're a moron.

Yes exactly, they're fully grown adults they know what's wrong and what's right so they should educated their child properly, it'll be meaningless to punish the adults as they were purposely implanting that mindset towards their child despite knowing its wrong

So psychopaths according to you can never learn right from wrong. Because they don't learn consequences for their behavior. Sorry to say but most psychopaths aren't criminals.

And when I was younger than eight my parents told me to rip up something important to my brother. Spoiler alert! I didn't do it. Because I knew it was wrong.

And since you took a comment about how kids who have at least the normal amount of intelligence for a seven to eight year old should be able to distinguish right from wrong, so they should know what their parents are doing is wrong and thus have at least a minimum of responsibility for their actions (which you did not mention at all with your OG post) and instead turned it into an attack on my intelligence, do you think that means you're the same kind of ableist slur you threw st me, by your own logic?

what in the legit fuck are you going on about?
1. "moron" isn't an ableist slur you absolute fucking buffoon. you just proved you're a moron by claiming it's a slur. are you also the kind of moron who claims "boomer" is an ageist slur?
2. i didn't realize i had to say this, but psychopaths and sociopaths are naturally exempt from this topic entirely. it doesn't take a genius to realise i was referring to more or less mentally healthy children. psychopathy and sociopathy are mental illnesses you are born with. naturally i will NOT mention them when i'm talking about the effect parents will have on their kids' behaviour because psycho and sociopaths can't help their condition and behaviour for the most part since it's a mental illness.
3. fine. you were a so called intelligent child bc you didn't rip apart something your brother liked. great! except the rest of the world doesn't revolve around you. you might have been smart enough to not destroy something important to your brother, but most kids aren't. kids are generally dumb and self centered and entitled. kids aren't born evil or as saints (see point 2 if your brain is going "but psychos!!!"). my point is entirely this: kids learn their shitty and good behaviour from their parents. an entitled child has an entitled and/or neglectful parents (or guardians, since not everyone had parents, but ignore that for now). a well behaved child has good, well behaved and caring parents. an 8 year old doesn't have any responsibility to be intelligent enough to understand when their parents are wrong or being mean. a grown ass adult has every responsibility to behave properly around their children and teach them what kind of behavior is acceptable and what isn't. putting the blame entirely on vieze's kid is wrong here. and,
4. grandpa was a shitty parent who let his children end up as i. a shortsighted dumbass with no business sense ii. a dumbass who can't think for himself and relies solely on his brother to live and iii. a cowardly pushover respectively. except for the one daughter he has, all his sons are worthless no good dumbasses. and two of them are even more worthless of parents. grandpa is a shitty parent and so are his sons (except for gallahan). the blame first goes to grandpa, then his first and second sons AND then their kids. i found it funny that grandpa is trying to discipline the 8 year old child and yet he apparently never bothered to discipline his own kids in the past AND his own goddamn adult-children don't face any repercussions now for having raised shitty kids who have a continuous streak of misbehaviour.

Seriously, with how rude u are i don't think anyone will want to waste their energy arguing with u no matter how right u may be, fix that way of speaking before trying to correct people's thoughts! Bye.

..... then why are you wasting your energy by replying? shut your trap if you have nothing useful to contribute and piss off.

hehe... i wanted to like the comment, but i ended up dislinking it because my fingers are so big, and now it doesnt let me like it sorry

See this? proves me right ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I think u lack education from ur parents too and your grandparents didn't help? xD
Why am wasting my time? i just dropped a comment by in the hope u realize how absurd you are, guess it didn't work? don't worry this will be my last wasted comment on you ;) now bye for real!

i find it amazing that people like you manage to contradict themselves in just one sentence. it's a skill, truly.
no one was talking to you. you butted in this conversation of your own volition, said no one will waste their energy trying argue with me and then proceeded to waste your energy arguing with me. are you an idiot or are you an idiot?
you can take your condescending attitude and shove it right up your asshole.

In most part, I think most of the first timer parents don't really know what they're doing but as they get older and see the wrong on what they did, they try to make up for it as a grandparent— atleast that's how I see it. Technically, you are right. But most of the adults, the parents of that unruly child included already have their own little mindset that's very hard to change as they mostly had that almost all there lives. But yes I agree, the adults need to be educated first. What they're doing to the child was honestly useless as instead of making the child learn from their mistakes, they're gonna take it the wrong way— like their stupid father did and gather hatred toward her and rather than stop useless fights, it would create more internal conflict but then again what would stop those kids and adults from hating her? The child was pampered and spoiled probably so seeing another person that's supposed to be below them— their father probably made them think that, and a woman to be exact which in most stories in this genre, women supposedly have lower authority than men does and seeing that she has more authority than them made them more jealous than ever. The child knew at the back of his mind that what he was doing is wrong but bc of the encouragement from his father to continue bullying her— it became right apparently so yes they do definitely need to educated the adult first but how do you even educate adults with such a child like mind?

yes, this is what i was trying to get at. at this point, no matter what the grandpa does to the kids, it's not going to change the kids' behavior or mindset, and even the grandpa himself acknowledges that the boy isn't sorry at all. this whole story could have been avoided with more guidance and proper parenting from the gramps himself. i qas saying that i find it kinda funny gramps is now trying to discipline the kids even though it's too late. taking away privileges from an entitled child isn't going to sovle the problem, you need to get to the root of the issue. and yet the somehow very smart and business savvy gramps doesn't seem to realize that himself. in fact, the more he punishes the other bratty children, the more tia is going to suffer at their hands.

Yes, exactly. The grandpa knows that the child doesn't feel sorry for what he has done but he didn't think much of what punishment would be suitable for that, I think he was too short sighted for that. What I think he should do was to get his facts straight with the parents of those children, such spoiled bratts would be nothing without the support of their parents but I really don't think they will change after that rather their hatred for tia would probably grow. Maybe they should try to remove them from the family tree guessing they'd stop after that, most simple way ig but bc villains like this— which if I may add is highly irritating, wouldn't give up even if they hit the rock bottom bc they want to drag the mc with them so I wish they would just drop dead. Maybe he'll educate that shitty father of what parents should do to their child in the next chapter.

Um I don’t think grandpa is to be blame for his children attitude or/and how they brought up their children. I believe the uncle’s’ attitude became like that due to the influence of their environment, especially during social gatherings of the nobles. (How?) Due to the fact that he is the first born, and in the empire there is a law that state’s first borns are to inherit the family name by default (but it is not implemented in their family), that and added the sugary compliments of other nobles saying and believing that he will be the next head of the family. With this, he and his son Belzac believes that because their first borns they are the ones to inherit the family. And if you think about it, if he (grandpa) truly is a bad parent how did aunt and papa became such great people and parents?

Now I think the reason why grandpa is punishing his grandchildren is because he still has faith in them in bringing honor to their family, and doesn’t want them to be contented like their parents. I think he wants them to strive more and be better, because after all they are the future of the lombardy (plus the fact that he is truly and very strict)

After coming of age or just when you already learn to do things and distinguish them from right or wrong, the consequences doesn’t fall to your parents anymore it falls on yourself because you are your own person and you should be responsible for your own decisions, your parents are just there to guide you:)