Stabrina April 19, 2020 3:58 pm

D’aaaawwwwws that was so sweet

Stabrina April 17, 2020 3:31 pm

I’m a bit confused why what his ex said was so upsetting? It just seemed like he didn’t want to go into detail about their sex lives and dismissed the conversation since his partner wasn’t there.

    udaxsasai April 17, 2020 3:49 pm

    I think Ahn thinks that his ex-bf sunbae does not really love him? Cos maybe the sunbae is jealous of Ahn before- like Ahn really excels in acting and in everything. And sunbae is frustrated that he cant be as good as Ahn. that probaby makes the sunbae loves him but at the same time, hates him too. Well that's just my opinion.

    Anonymous April 17, 2020 3:50 pm

    ^this

    awwi April 17, 2020 4:46 pm

    The flashback isn't over yet. There's a little bit more of it in the next chapter and from what I understand (I could be wrong though) that's when the upsetting bit happens.

    lemonkun April 17, 2020 5:47 pm

    sorry meant to upvote

Stabrina April 12, 2020 5:12 pm

As someone who is some spectrum of ace, this latest chapter seriously icked me out. Sure his asexuality is trauma induced but you can’t just force the trauma of sex out with more sexual acts??

It’s like forcing a rape victim to have sex to get over their terrible experience.

    Azalago April 12, 2020 9:05 pm

    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating having sex because it is immoral. That doesn't mean he should be raped, but it does mean he has been denying that a sexual side of himself exists (and probably hating himself for even having a sexual side.) Continuing the way he is will be very harmful to him psychologically.

    Anonymous April 12, 2020 10:20 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    He could still be asexual though. I agree that he shouldn’t think that sex is morally bad but he could still be asexual.

    Stabrina April 12, 2020 10:21 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    “his asexuality is trauma induced” is what I said and what I’m trying to say that he isn’t interested in sex because of trauma. My argument here is that what the ‘seme’ is doing is the worst way to go about treating such trauma.

    Viira April 12, 2020 10:26 pm
    The thing is he isn't asexual, he was raised by a shitty mom who taught him that having sex means being a bad peraon. He's the equivalent of someone who has been brainwashed by religious parents into hating hav... Azalago

    Some people are born their sexuality and some are their sexuality for other reasons, including trauma. His trauma doesn’t invalidate his a sexuality. Sexuality is fluid and perhaps in the future he will no longer be asexual but in this moment he is and what is happening to him is wrong.

    Azalago April 12, 2020 11:55 pm
    “his asexuality is trauma induced” is what I said and what I’m trying to say that he isn’t interested in sex because of trauma. My argument here is that what the ‘seme’ is doing is the worst way to ... Stabrina

    But sexuality isn't formed BY trauma. Example, a boy has it beaten into his head by his parents that homosexual thoughts are a choice and a sin. He spends his life suppressing those thoughts and dates only women and evendually marries and has children. Are you saying he is actually straight? Of course he isn't, he's just learned to deny that part of himself. Is he happy? Of course not!

    Viira April 14, 2020 7:39 pm
    But sexuality isn't formed BY trauma. Example, a boy has it beaten into his head by his parents that homosexual thoughts are a choice and a sin. He spends his life suppressing those thoughts and dates only wome... Azalago

    Read my reply. I agree that in the situation you lay out that he’d still be gay...but that’s one person and one situation. Some sexuality is influenced by trauma because sexuality is fluid and is a spectrum. Somebody might identify as a lesbian and later realize they are pansexual. There are also many instances of people going in and out of asexuality. Right now, this character is not interested in sex and does not feel interested in it. And if we go by your logicnin the first place, he has said he is straight so what his friend is doing is even worse. Either way, asexual or heterosexual, this situation is disrespectful of his orientation.

    Azalago April 15, 2020 3:48 am
    Read my reply. I agree that in the situation you lay out that he’d still be gay...but that’s one person and one situation. Some sexuality is influenced by trauma because sexuality is fluid and is a spectrum... Viira

    Sigh, no, that's not how sexual fluidity works. A major trauma-induced change in how one views sex is NOT an example of sexual fluidity. It's an example of the human mind being unable to cope with the trauma it experienced. That's not a natural change in sexual orientation, it's a deep-rooted psychological problem. Normally it would require therapy but this is a fictional story... and a yaoi.

    As for him being straight... did you forget that they are dating? Consensually ?

    Viira April 15, 2020 6:05 am
    Sigh, no, that's not how sexual fluidity works. A major trauma-induced change in how one views sex is NOT an example of sexual fluidity. It's an example of the human mind being unable to cope with the trauma it... Azalago

    If you think pressuring and manipulating somebody into dating you is consent I’m seriously disturbed. Have you just been skipping over the parts where he thinks to himself he can’t wait for this to all be over and that he only went along with it because he felt like he couldn’t say no and didn’t want to lose his friend by rejecting him...? He has expressed his discomfort and how much he doesn’t want to be doing this to the reader numerous times. He has also ASKED for the time period of their “dating” to be reduced numerous times. It’s been expressed constantly that he is doing it out of obligation. He has also said he is not interested in guys every time he has been asked. He said he feels nothing romantic when they kiss. And my point to the latter half of your comment is that we can not say somebody’s sexuality isn’t valid just because it might be trauma induced. If a woman feels bisexual but insists on only dating women and labeling herself a lesbian because she has a fear of men....it’s literally nobody’s place to tell her no she’s bisexual and needs to act like it and it would be wrong to be a man that knows she is capable of being attracted to men but doesn’t want to date or have sex with them but to come on to her anyway, especially if she says she is a lesbian...it’s not anyone’s place to say “no you aren’t because I know you’ve liked a man before”. How can literally anybody but oneself know what your “true” sexuality is anyway? We all label our sexuality based on what we feel and think at the time. If you feel like you don’t want to date or have sex, no matter what reason, it’s valid to say you feel asexual and to label yourself as such...the labels are literally only there to help us communicate what we do and don’t want from others anyway.

Stabrina April 11, 2020 9:38 am

Ah yes, there’s the death flag right there

    darklilwolf April 11, 2020 10:27 am

    NOOOOOOOOOO! Why are you saying that??? I mean your not wrong BUT DON'T SAY IT OUT LOUD.......yeah let's just ignore it....

    THE JENNIE KIM April 11, 2020 11:14 am
    NOOOOOOOOOO! Why are you saying that??? I mean your not wrong BUT DON'T SAY IT OUT LOUD.......yeah let's just ignore it.... darklilwolf

    me every time 1 of the mc do something wrong

Stabrina April 11, 2020 2:43 am

When your heart is full of wholesome fluff but your gutter of a brain wants the smut.

Stabrina April 3, 2020 6:52 am

Ok I see you sliding in a new couple
When are they getting their own thing?

Stabrina April 3, 2020 3:10 am

I can’t see Kai turning into a tyrant unless the evil princess manipulated him to be that way and made it seem like he was worse than he actually was.

    LinZhen April 3, 2020 11:33 am

    I'm not sure Edith was in the original novel, where he was the male lead and where he got the title 'Tyrant' from in the first place. And he is totally a tyrant. No matter how much she tried to change him in the beginning chapters he remained pretty rude and arrogant.

    Stabrina April 3, 2020 10:48 pm
    I'm not sure Edith was in the original novel, where he was the male lead and where he got the title 'Tyrant' from in the first place. And he is totally a tyrant. No matter how much she tried to change him in th... LinZhen

    She was in the original novel which is why the MC knew that she was going to die even though she did nothing wrong. Granted the original sister’s personality might not have been as tough but still

    Stabrina April 3, 2020 10:52 pm
    I'm not sure Edith was in the original novel, where he was the male lead and where he got the title 'Tyrant' from in the first place. And he is totally a tyrant. No matter how much she tried to change him in th... LinZhen

    Also he’s like 10. I’ve met plenty of stupid ass 10 year olds. Sure he’s rude and arrogant but aren’t a lot of kids like that to some degree because they still believe the world revolves around them? I wouldn’t call kids tyrants for being stupid.

    And imagine a kid suddenly being told he’s the most important person in the kingdom. Of course a kid is going to let it get to their heads. I would have at his age. I totally would have trolled my older brother if I found out I was an empress. Like telling him to kneel. But would I have really meant it? Nah. And that’s what I’m seeing from this kid.

    He’s an ass but he loves his sister in a realistically sibling way. He still sees the world naively and can easily be manipulated by those around him.

    His personality isn’t great to begin with but I can see how he could have been turned into a tyrant by the princess who wants him out of the castle.

Stabrina April 2, 2020 6:29 pm

Give me more beefy women. Please and thanks.

Stabrina March 31, 2020 2:58 pm

Looks like the bad guy now has a ‘spy’ in the household. He’s using some kind of magic to look through the new guy’s eyes whether the tigre guy knows it or not

    Oneechan March 31, 2020 3:08 pm

    it's possible that you are right but I think (and hope) he was able to see through the bugs and flies since when he was seeing it there was a fly next to magic circle like we see here: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_duchess_with_an_empty_soul/nbt/mpn_chapter-2269496/pg-16/

    aelfhun March 31, 2020 3:23 pm

    yeah no, youre wrong

    Oneechan March 31, 2020 3:41 pm
    yeah no, youre wrong aelfhun

    that is totally possible, but can you please tell me how can you be so sure he is seeing it through the new guy's eyes? Maybe I missed something

    Happyfish314 March 31, 2020 4:56 pm

    That's plausible. There is a higher chance that he had smaller bugs flying around or had planted bugs inside the people. When you look at the bug replaying when the auction house guy died, it's from his perspective.

    Which means the bug had to be flying right beside the auction house guy's eyes, or he is inside the auction guy and recording everything the auction guy sees.

    I believe it is the latter, because all the people who were captured "died mysteriously". If he had put bugs in all of them, then he would (1) know where they are and what is happening to them at any time and (2) be able to kill them off at any time so they can't tell anyone about him.

    Oneechan March 31, 2020 6:10 pm
    That's plausible. There is a higher chance that he had smaller bugs flying around or had planted bugs inside the people. When you look at the bug replaying when the auction house guy died, it's from his perspec... Happyfish314

    That totally makes sense! It clears everything up, answers many questions and ties all the little hints together. It's great detective workヾ(☆▽☆) I shamelessly join your awesome theory (๑•ㅂ•)و✧=P

    Oneechan March 31, 2020 8:43 pm
    That totally makes sense! It clears everything up, answers many questions and ties all the little hints together. It's great detective workヾ(☆▽☆) I shamelessly join your awesome theory (๑•ㅂ•)و... Oneechan

    But to be totally honest I still hope the new guy doesn't have a bug in him and is not an unintentional spy ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ sorry this has nothing to do with theory I just don't want it becasue: 1) that poor guy already went through hell and I don't want him feeling guilty when he finds out about bug in him making him betray his new master (buy giving info about them) even though not on purpose ╥﹏╥ 2) new guy is an alchemist and we know that mc needs an alchemist for making that potion to increase mana ( http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_duchess_with_an_empty_soul/nbt/iur_chapter-31/pg-85/) so if the new guy has a bug too then the villain will learn all their research as well (if they don't find out about the bug in him before) and 3) because that makes a better story. The good guys are already in a worse position because they don't know the villain's plan, so they are "fighting blind" (don't know villain's next move) and if the villain will also know their every step before they even make it (when planning, through the new guy) then it is pretty much impossible to win. yeah yeah, I know the good guys will win at the and, but still, it is more believable that way to me but again that is just my preference so you can just ignore that part ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    I went and re-read the manhwa and the scene that villain sees of mc in the last pg of ch37 is the same as the kidnapped kids see when mc saved them: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_duchess_with_an_empty_soul/nbt/mpn_chapter-2268574/pg-15/ and as we know those kids died later http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_duchess_with_an_empty_soul/nbt/mpn_chapter-2269496/pg-8/. so the bug in people giving access to information (what hosts see and hear) and being able to kill host is even more probable now(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Happyfish314 April 1, 2020 2:19 am
    But to be totally honest I still hope the new guy doesn't have a bug in him and is not an unintentional spy ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ sorry this has nothing to do with theory I just don't want it bec... Oneechan

    Yeah, I agree! I wouldn't want the new guy to have a bug in him, because he's gone through so much crap already...and also because that would just make the hooded person way too OP. >:[

    Stabrina April 1, 2020 7:43 am

    The reason why I think this is because the hooded figure set the auctioneer up with all those eyes. even though the auctioneer said that Tigres were only worth their eyes, he kept one alive. Why? He could have collected those eyes that are more valuable than the person.

    It all seems like bait. An elaborate trap set up to lure the duke in since his servant is also from the Tigre clan. It would make sense that he’d take in this poor abused person who’s lost everything. He’s a perfect unknowing spy. After all, no one knows exactly how those kids and auctioneer died. But the hooded figure said something about his/her bugs. So it stands to reason the hooded guy who gave the auctioneer the bugs, the tigre eyes, and the tigre, would have placed bugs in the tigre.

    If not then the hooded guy isn’t that smart

    Stabrina April 1, 2020 7:44 am

    Also, it takes waaay more effort to keep a person alive than to harvest their eyes. Doesn’t make sense if the person themselves is worthless. I can only think he was ordered to keep the guy alive for reasons not explained to him.

    Stabrina April 1, 2020 7:48 am

    Edit: he let the guy live because he’s a higher grade product so that reasoning doesn’t quite work. But still a high chance that the cloaked person bugged the tigre anyway

    Stabrina April 1, 2020 7:50 am

    Also the panel that the cloaked figure sees matches up with the perspective of the kids looking up at icons when she took off her mask. So definitely looking through their eyes at least

    Oneechan April 1, 2020 10:45 am
    Also the panel that the cloaked figure sees matches up with the perspective of the kids looking up at icons when she took off her mask. So definitely looking through their eyes at least Stabrina

    We know, both @Happyfish314 and I have already said that in our comments. We see the image of mc through kids pov and it was shown he has heard the voice of head of auction house from his pov, all of them were killed so the theory of bugs enabling the villain to get information (what hosts see and hear) and to kill host is pretty solid. And as you already find out, yes, they kept the new guy alive because he is handsome and so worth more alive then just his eyes. Of course it is possible that the new guy is also bugged, it makes sanse from villain's pov, but we are saying why it would be better that he isn't from a plot's pov, as then villain is simply to OP and impossible to defeat. There is a possiblitly that head of auction house kept the new guy alive because he decided that was the way to earn more even though he should only keep the eyes but despite him being greedy and being able to do that I don' think that is very probable since the villain looked in control of the situation and if that was the case he would find out the head's disobedience immediately through the bugs. So yeah, I agree he was kept alive most likely by the villian's orders and so therefor is a very high possibility that he is also bugged. That still doesn't change my personal preference or hope that he isn't. I stated in my comment that this is just my wish and you can ignore it since it just my opinion and has nothing to do with theoryヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Oneechan April 1, 2020 10:48 am
    Yeah, I agree! I wouldn't want the new guy to have a bug in him, because he's gone through so much crap already...and also because that would just make the hooded person way too OP. >:[ Happyfish314

    I am so glad we agree,he already endured so much it is time he is happy now(▰˘◡˘▰) let us hope and pray to manhwa gods that our wish comes true(๑•ㅂ•)و✧(≧∀≦)
    I wish you best of luck and stay healtyヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

Stabrina March 26, 2020 2:43 pm

I used to love this manga but now it’s become not just sexless but plotless. Take out the bouts of amnesia and random “oooh jealousy” moments and you get nothing but blandness.

    Sugakookie March 26, 2020 8:18 pm

    It never had any sex in the first place tho xD

    Stabrina March 27, 2020 6:49 am

    Exactly. It was sexless but with a good plot and that’s okay. But now it’s sexless and plotless. At least with plotless smut it’s like “ah well at least it’s sexy” but we’re getting nothing. NOTHING

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