Lounachan July 19, 2020 12:23 pm

For me I really want him to end up with the girl he loves her it's obvious but as he said he can't get it up wellthis is not everything about love right! When you find somebody that you can trust somebody who loves you just the way you are that's good maybe for other the girl was annoying or clingy to the guy for me she was just fighting for someone she really loves

    jinx July 19, 2020 3:04 pm

    Please do not equate fondness for an individual to romantic love. Please and thank you.

    Lounachan July 19, 2020 3:44 pm
    Please do not equate fondness for an individual to romantic love. Please and thank you. jinx

    For me it looks like she loves him that's why I said so

    jinx July 19, 2020 6:06 pm
    For me it looks like she loves him that's why I said so Lounachan

    Uh how do I say this,,, Please do not forget relationships are built on *mutual* attraction. Mutual - meaning both parties have the same exact feelings for each other.

    If anything it's a one sided love on her part, because what Jun holds for her is fondness for her, not sexual attraction for her.

    I mean, yeah I get it people are sad for her because Jun doesn't reciprocate her same feelings, and it sucks for her because she can't get the ideal romantic partner of her dreams I guess. But that still doesn't excuse or make it right for her to continue fostering a romantic straight relationship with a known gay man that doesn't think of her that way.
    I mean, that is literally, that how domestic abusers think.

    Domestic abusers will force their partners to stay with them, even when the other wishes to move on or leave them. That's why a lot domestic abusers will use threats or violence to make their partners stay with them.

    Which is why I find Miura to be such a problematic character, since she literally continues to force the narrative of how Jun can be saved if he gets into a relationship with her, and so that's why she isn't going to give up on him. When the literal subtext to it all, is that she doesn't think gay people exist irl. Therefore, she's "saving" Jun from being gay.

    Lounachan July 19, 2020 6:15 pm
    Uh how do I say this,,, Please do not forget relationships are built on *mutual* attraction. Mutual - meaning both parties have the same exact feelings for each other.If anything it's a one sided love on her pa... jinx

    I understand your point of view thank you for your explanation

    jinx July 19, 2020 6:34 pm
    I understand your point of view thank you for your explanation Lounachan

    you're welcome! and thank you for being open and not taking offense because my perspective! (▰˘◡˘▰)

    jinx July 19, 2020 7:27 pm
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    Fair argument. but I think what Jun feels for Miura is closer to familial love / friendship both of which lack sexual attraction. Which is why I said Jun does not feel romantic attraction to Miura to make it easier to understand for other people.

    Because it's fairly easy to imagine people who are in romantic relationships tend to want to fuck each other. Whereas, you would never think to fuck your family members right? (Y'know because that would be incestuous) and the same applies to friends where you both just want to maintain platonic friendships with (because otherwise you'd be betraying their trust that they likewise want to maintain a platonic friendship with you).

    So, I'm fine with Miura becoming Jun's friend, but anything more than is Miura overstepping her boundaries.

Lounachan July 18, 2020 3:08 pm

This will always be a masterpiece for me thank you for this beautiful manga

Lounachan July 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Is he gonna break with the old guy cause I want to read the manga but if he end up with him then it's just a big no for me

    Indii July 18, 2020 4:33 pm

    This manga is deeper than a simple relationship between an old man and a student, you should read it

    blueninja89 July 18, 2020 10:00 pm
    This manga is deeper than a simple relationship between an old man and a student, you should read it Indii

    but it doesnt help it's case that it just feel like grooming, and really pulls on the stereotype that older gay men are predatory.

    Gay fey July 18, 2020 10:17 pm

    He breaks up

    Gay fey July 18, 2020 10:17 pm

    He breaks up
    Thats what happen in the raw version

    Liz July 18, 2020 10:25 pm
    but it doesnt help it's case that it just feel like grooming, and really pulls on the stereotype that older gay men are predatory. blueninja89

    !!!! Exactly

    blueninja89 July 18, 2020 10:35 pm
    !!!! Exactly Liz

    My issue is the author is attempting an actual queer narrative plot than the standard sunshine and butterflies rape to love, or abuse, or age gap, or incest etc. however they’ve down the bare minimum of making the plot believable as not actually portraying the problematic aspects of our MC as actually toxic or harmful, but rather just the growing pains of being a gay man. Our Mc is sooo impressionable and has such internalized homosexuality and repeatedly is self destructive inwardly and outwardly in creating a healthy self worth. Then we have a possible love interest in MR. M who’s an older boy likely emotionally cheating on his boyfriend with HIV, mind you HIV is not in fact a dead sentence in 2020 and hasn’t been for over 2 decades. There’s just so much about this plot is nearly there but you seriously can tell it wasn’t written by a queer man because it lacks so much proper self awareness.

    Liz July 18, 2020 10:44 pm
    My issue is the author is attempting an actual queer narrative plot than the standard sunshine and butterflies rape to love, or abuse, or age gap, or incest etc. however they’ve down the bare minimum of makin... blueninja89

    Definitely!!! Especially considering how the MC feels about BL as well because a lot of it can be extremely fetish-y and uncomfortable for gay men to read but he seems accepting of it. (although I'm not discounting the fact that queer man defo do read BL because they're just so starved for representation)

    not gay July 19, 2020 1:45 am
    Definitely!!! Especially considering how the MC feels about BL as well because a lot of it can be extremely fetish-y and uncomfortable for gay men to read but he seems accepting of it. (although I'm not discoun... Liz

    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which imo happened just for shock value....)

    Liz July 19, 2020 2:55 am
    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which i... not gay

    I agree with everything but confused about biphobia? Where do u see that?

    Liz July 19, 2020 2:56 am
    Agreeing with both of you!! As a bi person all this manga has done is put a super bad taste in my mouth (the grooming, the subtle biphobia, the two girls who clearly fetishize gay men, the suicide thing which i... not gay

    Also I don't think the suicide thing was j shock value because it definitely seemed to build up to something like that (like his detoriating mental state)

    not gay July 19, 2020 3:09 am
    I agree with everything but confused about biphobia? Where do u see that? Liz

    just throughout the manga its kinda implied that you can be either attracted to the same gender or the opposite and never both,, maybe its because the story revolves around homosexuals but masaki's analogy (the bat thing) in particular puts me off a bit

    Liz July 19, 2020 3:22 am
    just throughout the manga its kinda implied that you can be either attracted to the same gender or the opposite and never both,, maybe its because the story revolves around homosexuals but masaki's analogy (the... not gay

    Idk about the bat thing, but I think in general it's not biphobia but just a gay boy who feels alienated from the heteronormative society

    not gay July 19, 2020 3:43 am
    Idk about the bat thing, but I think in general it's not biphobia but just a gay boy who feels alienated from the heteronormative society Liz

    yes i understand what you mean, i think you're right about it too.

Lounachan July 18, 2020 9:33 am

What's with that face are you serious !!!!!!!! As someone who never get the chance to exprience love I will take him if you don't want him ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

Lounachan July 17, 2020 8:47 pm

Of course there is no room available like seriously you are a Yoi protagonist even if the hole hotel is empty you will get the same room

    lerahstanley July 17, 2020 9:45 pm

    why didn't I think of this when I worked at hotels lmao

Lounachan July 16, 2020 12:14 pm

His back like seriously does he even have back bones

Lounachan July 16, 2020 12:09 pm

You can't strip some cutie like him without weird attention s

    DaisySolaris July 16, 2020 12:37 pm

    Ahahaha exactly my though as well!
    (≧∀≦)

Lounachan July 16, 2020 11:10 am

Finally a vampire who is doing his job properly

Lounachan July 15, 2020 10:09 am

I was always thinking does Suha even love the director ? When he think of him it was always sexual I think

Lounachan July 14, 2020 12:27 pm

Dad is dad what do you mean Issac who is issac

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