mafuyu October 14, 2020 4:19 pm

are they not good??? why does it feel like eunwoo still got some issues???

mafuyu October 13, 2020 3:15 pm

fuck!!!! my poor jungwoo ╥﹏╥ baby pls dont cry...i wish i could hold him ;;;;;_;;;;;;

mafuyu October 12, 2020 7:46 am

param boutta be soooo greedy tho

mafuyu October 10, 2020 2:49 pm

i am here for the camera guy, and the camera guy ONLY

mafuyu October 9, 2020 4:10 pm

um spoiler



i saw what ppl are talking about so i decided to look at the raws, but to me it just looked like the pink haired guy got drunk so jaewhan took him to a motel or something to rest, probably bc he doesn't know where else to take him. there wasn't really anything to point to them sleeping together, he never took his clothes off. but i cant read korean so i might be wrong

    yjxyxs October 9, 2020 4:18 pm

    Uhm.. spoiler kinda?
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    You're right. It's not bec Jaehwan slept with the sunbae (bec he was definitely honest about his relationship with Dongho and told that sunbae so they didnt sleep together nope) but it's partly the reason for the drama :( altho I only read until chap 101? Or was it 102? So yeah :(

mafuyu October 9, 2020 3:54 pm

i always look forward to updates for this. not having empathy seems to be a sensitive subject for kang moo. i wonder if he wishes, even a little, that he could feel emotions the way others do.

    yuzuri October 10, 2020 3:47 pm

    nah, he doesn't think of it as a flaw that needs to be fixed, that's why he's mocking kirin about having empathy isn't a superior trait

    mafuyu October 10, 2020 3:56 pm
    nah, he doesn't think of it as a flaw that needs to be fixed, that's why he's mocking kirin about having empathy isn't a superior trait yuzuri

    that didn't really come off as mocking to me. he seemed somewhat hurt.
    and why would he read so many books and do so much research about psychopathy if he didn't kind of want to fix it?

    he does probably feel like he's advantaged compared to others, because he's not impulsive or controlled by emotions. but that can also be pretty isolating, since he can never understand what it's like.

mafuyu October 8, 2020 10:44 pm

ok so when it was brought up that hyunsung might have his own issues, it got me thinking some more. i originally put this in a response but decided to just make a separate comment:

in chapter 35.3 there is a specific panel where the stalker is standing next to hyunsung, and then in the next there are these long sharp thorns coming out of hyunsung and stabbing the stalker. it comes with the text "i've returned to my old self" and how his being with hyunsung would be "painful" for the stalker, so he should leave

why would hyunsung think that the stalker would be better off leaving him? rather than afraid of being harmed himself, he seems more concerned that the stalker has a painful fate because he is with hyunsung

which brings me to my next question: why is hyunsung alone? from the beginning, he lives alone, he doesn't appear to have any friendships (aside from an acquaintance at work) and no known family.

my theory is that maybe hyunsung doesn't have lasting relationships, is all alone, because he doesn't understand, or is unable to love. everyone ends up leaving him because they are disappointed with his lack of empathy, inability to understand. maybe he learned to leave them first, so he wouldn't get hurt when he's abandoned. that's why he feels sorry for the stalker, because the stalker is desperately obsessed and in love with someone that simply cannot give that back. so hyunsung thinks the stalker should leave, because the stalker will only be hurt more when he never gets his love reciprocated.

this could also explain why hyunsung tries to escape the stalker one final time when he seemingly had accepted his relationship with the stalker. he still believes that the stalker will ultimately be unsatisfied with hyunsung and abandon him, so hyunsung tries to leave first

perhaps this also spans to his other emotions as well because throughout the story hyunsung doesn't have much emotional range, and tends to just be indifferent to things. the only time i remember him being emotional was when he was afraid of his stalker

so maybe the end is supposed to show how someone who loves too much (like seriously) and someone that can't love enough were able to come together and give companionship to each other because no one else would, no one else COULD, accept their messy selves but each other

of course this is a lot of conjecture, but i would appreciate other thoughts, or if you could correct me since i'm a bit fuzzy on all the details

    personak8 November 6, 2020 4:45 pm

    Interesting. Nice take on this. From what you’re describing, it seems like hyunsung has borderline personality disorder. I can def see that. If the manhwa could be longer, they could hav expounded more on the issues and introspectives of hyunsung and why he was behaving like that.

    mafuyu November 6, 2020 6:04 pm
    Interesting. Nice take on this. From what you’re describing, it seems like hyunsung has borderline personality disorder. I can def see that. If the manhwa could be longer, they could hav expounded more on the... personak8

    ah thanks. i looked at the symptoms of bpd and the disorder does match a lot of my analysis, so thanks for pointing that out!

    i agree that it would have been interesting to see a more in depth look in hyunsung's issues, as well as elaboration on his past and how that informs his current thought processes. same for the stalker. i haven't read much manga that really close in on the psychological aspects of characters, the only ones i can think of are The Beast Must Die and Black Mirror, if you're interested

    but maybe it's for the best that a lot of character motivations and behaviors are unclear and vague. that mystery really leaves it open to interpretation, so whatever kind of story this is is what you make of it ^^ it can be happy or sad or hopeful or scary. then its no longer just the author's story, but the reader's as well. though i do hope my own theory carries some weight hehe

mafuyu October 7, 2020 3:26 am

out of all the names, why do these manga always pick the name josh LOL

    CainFable November 3, 2020 1:29 am

    At least it's not Chad or Kent. 0.0 I would have died it it was...

mafuyu October 6, 2020 5:05 pm

baby's first blowjob and you thrust in? not cool dude...

mafuyu October 6, 2020 6:42 pm

hm this was interesting, but i still have a lot of questions. im gonna number my thoughts here we go

1. i feel like up to the end we still never really know who the stalker guy IS. like we see his appearance, but who was he before hyunsung, and how did he even find him? the other dude saw his guy on the train i guess, how did our stalker dude find MC?

2. it was kind of weird to me how the two couples look almost identical. what purpose did the second couple serve? they kinda seemed to just...be there lol

3. im not sure if this is a happy ending...i don't think by the end hyunsung loved his stalker back. ultimately hyunsung's pity for his stalker allowed him to come into hyunsung's life. foot in the door technique, once he did that, it was easier for the stalker to just push more and more boundaries. and hyunsung just accepted the situation. or should i say, he was *forced* to accept it. he never had the choice to Not have the stalker in his life, so it was either adapt or suffer.

    vinnie October 7, 2020 7:57 pm

    Lots of plotholes, not enough clarity or info

    mafuyu October 7, 2020 9:46 pm
    Lots of plotholes, not enough clarity or info vinnie

    i do agree, i would have liked some things to be clearer, but i also wonder if it was intentional? the whole situation in the story is very unsettling, so maybe by not giving the reader all the information, the reader also feels that instability and discomfort.

    or maybe its because the information wasn't necessary. like the stalker's past and motives don't really matter, because at the end of the day all he is is a crazy stalker, so he doesn't deserve to have the privilege of having his actions justified.

    or the writer just didn't do that good lol. i wish i could know those things, but i have to admit that despite the mystery and missing pieces, something about this story draws me in. everything feels so unsure, but i still like it. i guess the best stories might not be the most perfect ones

    sorry you probably didn't want an essay to your comment i just started to ramble ><

    vinnie October 8, 2020 3:33 pm
    i do agree, i would have liked some things to be clearer, but i also wonder if it was intentional? the whole situation in the story is very unsettling, so maybe by not giving the reader all the information, the... mafuyu

    No I loved it! You spoke my mind and I love your insight! Maybe the mystery and the discomfort created was intentional, which would still be a pretty good idea unless they wanna fill the story with murky details, again I wish there was more clarity on the stalker and the other guy being friends or sm but smh.

    mafuyu October 8, 2020 4:50 pm
    No I loved it! You spoke my mind and I love your insight! Maybe the mystery and the discomfort created was intentional, which would still be a pretty good idea unless they wanna fill the story with murky detail... vinnie

    thank u! and yeah that other guy is possibly even more confusing to me, and it makes me wonder how him and the stalker met? the only thing i can imagine is a club for being weirdly obsessive and harassing the people you're interested in lol

    which brings me back to how similar they are, and how similar both couples are personality-wise and looks-wise. light haired persistent dude + wishy washy blacked haired guy. it really weirds me out, because based on other characters, the author can definitely differentiate characters and make them look unique, so why are the 4 mains so alike?!!?

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