NAH ME AND HIM HAVE NOTHING GOING ON I TELL YOU!
..Anyways I came over so you can succ my DIIIIIIIIIIIII-
ugh i love em I keep on re-reading despite my deadlines what am I doin with my life
Sameeee. I cannot with myself.
dude has always been a prick but sending that wannabe rapist to him somehow crossed the line for me wtf is wrong with him?!?!? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ROOT FOR THIS PIECE OF CRAP NOW HUUUUH AUTHOR???
edit: ALSO!!!! IM NOT ONE TO SLUTSHAME BUT DUDE YOU'VE FUCKED ANYTHING WITH A HOLE AND 4 LIMBS YOU GOT NO RIGHT TO BE POSSESSIVE WHAT U DOIN??
the amount of people here acting like pure hypocrites is astonishing and ruined my good time of reading a wholesome chapter. You guys liked the beginning of the story obviously and stuck around about a "normal" salaryman who falls for a "seductive" sex positive and unashamed porn actor yet you cannot stand the fact that it's not following some stupid heteronormative formula where he needs to be "fixed" by leaving that same lifestyle that made him as a character appealing to you in the beginning. I don't get it. Isn't his lack of shame and that he's actually proud of his work and takes it seriously part of his characterization? Suddenly he needs to quit what made him an interesting character for him to be a "good" partner? Then why would the story be about a porn actor in the first place? What kind of loving partner would Natori be if he only dated him expecting he would be "fixed" or "changed" in his beliefs for them to be together?
This is the problem with romance stories nowadays, it's been centuries and audiences still expect to follow the stale formula of "woman surrogate character meets man with flaws -> woman surrogate character fixes man's flaws through the power of luv -> marriage and children and heteronormative domestic idea of happiness" It's boring and basically an illusion.
This isn't even a hetero romance yet our heteronormative illusions of what happiness is in life and relationships are still stifling people. Porn actors are real people with real lives and concerns who do not think of acting in porn as being intimate with a partner they care about (because it isn't the same), and you do not get to read a story (illegally) where the job is romanticized only to then wish it could get fixed away because your own ideas of happiness, monogamy and relationships clash with it. You are reading softcore porn illegally on a website. Clearly porn is a huge part of your lives. Stop being hypocrites and acting like the sex industry is beneath you when you are directly engaging with it.
I can't believe I was in such a fluffy and happy mood reading this chapter only to find The Pilgrim Brigade TM in the comments acting like we live in the 1900s. Ugh
i don't even read this manga, but i saw your comment on the homepage and had to like it. i have had these exact same thoughts and arguments with people on another manhwa about a sex worker character. these people don't seem to understand that a lot of folks don't consider sex work cheating. if you do that's your prerogative, but why are you projecting onto two fictional characters in a healthy relationship? just because you feel uncomfortable with the idea of a SW continuing their work even when they're in a relationship doesn't mean it is objectively cheating. these are of course the same people who would not like it if the plot was that a character changed their personality to fit into their LI's tastes, but somehow it's okay to change someone's job just because you don't like it? wtf if a simple job is what's stopping you from truly loving someone then maybe you don't really love that person to begin with. you ate btw !
Literally this. I shouldnt have read past this comment now my mood was ruined too. Why are other people saying theyre mad Seo can't quit being an AV actor when it's his fucking job, we literally had like an entire arc where they got past this whole thing of being jealous of Seo's AV partners and how they're moving forward with it. People need to stop forcing the idea of Seo quitting just because they themselves are uncomfortable dating AV actors this story isnt about you. This is like a one in a million story that actually tries to not be heteronormative and yall wanna force it back into the cookie cutter bl please
I find it stupid when readers sometimes would try to put their values on fictional characters forgetting these stories has plots and concepts. It's the main reason why i try not to read the comment section because it most of the time ruin my mood.
This chapter is definitely sweet. How Natori shows he really does love Seo. How much he accepts Seo as who he is and what he do. And same as Seo. How thankful he is that Natori did not just not judged him with his work but fully accepted and loved him. It's sad people can't see it.
FUCKING THANK YOU. just projecting their hypocritical views onto other’s relationships like huh??
Oh my god I was enjoying the story so much and was expecting good comments because of the way the matters in the manga were being resolved but my god, the way my mood soured while reading these. Maybe I just shouldn't open comment sections
you really shouldn't. i feel like the comments here have gotten MUCH worse after the Great Comment Section Ban and then the subsequent popularity of mgg on tikt0k + twt. too many children are reading these and leaving comments that are idiotic and uniformed. i refuse to believe the people talking about sex workers and relationships with them in this way are adults, the thought is depressing.
ugh honestly i try to tell myself this a lot that most of these are teens and preteens who dont have much lived experience or can see nuance in actual relationships and therefore only think in terms of what they think relationships are *supposed to be like* and try not to judge but I'm also kinda peeved that in the past few years it's clear there's a looot more much younger people here than before to the point where they are the vast majority and it lowkey disturbs me seeing 12 year olds here reading softcore pornography and having these discussions that their brains cant even begin to comprehend (though it could be I just got older haha)
Then again maybe thats part of life, and we should let teens be cringe and do their thing as they should be. I had dumb takes that age too tbh just not for yaoi lol. I feel so old on this website even tho Im still in my 20s.. where do the older fujoshi even congregate anymore???? Aarinfantasy forums have been ghosttowns since the mid 2010s!!! (ooof now i feel even older lol)
it does feel like the older i get the more annoyed i become with some of the shit younger people say on this site, but then i realize i am essentially becoming the boomers i used to hate i can only hope the children here end up growing out of these toxic ways of thinking. i know i was a wholly different person when i was 12-13 than i am now, and thank god, but not everyone changes for the better.
also, not aarinfantasy?? it feels like ages since i last heard that name. i feel ancient now, i'm gonna go take a nap
Reading this felt like one prolonged stroke. Nothing ever made sense, even if you tried to pretend it did... Damn my adhd paralysis.
havent read this just thought Id pop in to say I read the title and I audibly chuckled so there ya have it
the sweeter it gets, the more it'll hurt later on (:
Fuck me sideways
this was so random idek how to react wtf lol
like dont get me wrong I love a good spanking scene but uuuuh HOW DID WE GET HERE? Is this webtoon edging us to hell and back or whattt TT___TT
im not at the end yet but is anyone else disturbed that yujin sees moa in a sexual way? Like I get why she has this idealized crush on him but I feel like if I tutored a kid in their teens in my 20s it feels gross that he sees her in a sexual way after that..? Every time his sexual thoughts get brought up I feel yucky about it. I bet it can happen between some people but it doesnt feel like their relationship changed or developed enough for him to have such feelings so it feels off.
Well I guess the plot was shallow so what am I even looking for.
Btw since I'm already complaining, if your landlord is being a creep please report it to the police, if you don't you are just giving him the license to go on doing it to other people. I didn't like how she just up and left and then her friend told her not to report it either, but it feels like this story was so shallowly written that you can't even get mad about that because the creepy landlord was just a flimsy plot device and that was the whole point of it. Gah
ok I finished it what the actual fuck did I just waste 5 hours of my life on that Ill never get back, I cant-
I should've warn youヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
little PSA for yall but if ure a writer pls dont bother real people like this, if youre a writer you should be able to make most things up (or do what most of us egomaniacs do and write about yourself one way or another lol), basing your character irl on a person this much is just lazy and uncreative writing I said what I said
THAT BEING SAID I LOVE THEIR DYNAMIC OHOHO it's kinda refreshing?? Still in the first season but looking forward to see how this unfolds
i see your point and bothering a person like this in real life should be avoided, but there are specifics in each person that a writer might need to observe to write an actually accurate person.
saying "as a writer you should be able to make most things up" could be dangerous in some situations, imagine if you were a completely normal healthy person writing a psychotic character, a human trait you have never seen or expirienced before
or if you were a fully abled person writing a disabled person (for example someone who doesnt have a leg lets say), you have both of your legs and no trauma or expirience of that life.
you should observe people ALWAYS, not invading their space like this, but educate yourself by watching interviews, reading articles and literature on the topics you want to write about or even try just asking for other peoples expiriences because everyones life is different.
misinformation is dangerous, as a writer you need to understand that people who read and listen to your words can and will take them with them for the future, so if you were to "make something up", without research, you become the problem that creates danger
this isnt meant to be any hate towards you, just be careful how you word your opinions
Silly old me assuming people will take my point in good faith and not take the least reasonable and charitable interpretation and stretch it so much that suddenly my opinion is "dangerous". On the internet. Man I'm naive.
OF COURSE if you write about the experiences of groups of ppl that arent you you should not make shit up at random. If you wanna write about idk astronomers, do research and speak to astronomers and the field of astronomy. If you wanna write about a culture or identity that you're unfamiliar with, then consult multiple sources and do proper research. You know, like a person that does their job diligently. I feel redundant even typing this out loud. Any decent writer with any shred of education and/or experience should know that, though ofc on this platform a bunch of half-assed webtoons and manga I'm grateful not to be paying for would disagree lol.
CLEARLY, what the hypothetical BL artist did here isn't that, and one would think that it's clear it was not what I was referring to. He's following someone around and asking them what dishes they like, what clothes they wear and hyper-analyzing their every move. As someone who has been in a situation where a person in power over me (ex professor) used me exactly like that to "write" a story based on details about me and my friend's lives it is creepy, lazy and unimaginative and can barely be called creative writing (and usually ppl who write like that cant write their own stories or have interesting lives and thoughts of their own). That is what I was referring to and if you had applied a shred of good faith when reading u'd get that.
Im not even critical of the story, I think it's funny for what it is. The author clearly is just using it as a flimsy plot device for the story to go forward and that's fine. Just as someone who had that happen to them irl it was slightly upsetting to read, and I wanted to quickly express that actually irl that could be quite ugly.
I seriously wouldn't even disagree to your point as an addition to what i was saying if you didn't suddenly jump to "you making this jokey comment on an illegal pirating site where people are reading softcore homoerotic porn that's like 50 shades of cursed is DANGEROUS" as if someone will take my half assed comment underneath this webtoon and follow it like gospel their whole lives extremely literally and uncritically and that will have dire concesquences that would apparently be on me (???). If I have a piece of advice, try to up your media literacy skills because I don't think this was the point you thought it was. Also, words tend to fail us. Most of the time it is good to approach each other with that in mind.