Seikooc's Topics (198)

It's cultural as well. Not everywhere being queer is a walk in a park. Any mom would've been worried whether he can handle it or not. No mother wants her kids to suffer

its not that they think he’s suffering because he’s gay. but thinking he’ll suffer because of discrimination. the setting is korea which people on the lgbt are still heavily discriminated. theyre worried its normal, shes a mother.

If he can't handle it that's on him? So fuck empathy and love? What is this kind of reasoning? It would be his problem if society does not accept him and on top of that you want his family that love him so much to not care?
I don't get comments like yours. We're talking about Korea and even in countries where same sex marriages are legal it's still hard. Discrimination isn't just oh I don't like your life style etc. It's being careful people don't know so you don't lose your job, you don't get insulted, bullied or beaten , that's what the mom is crying about

when did i ever say he didn’t need love of empathy? i think you missed my point entirely. Why are you talking as if i can’t relate to him? I come from a christian hispanic house hold of immigrants. my uncle was kicked out of the family for being a gay man, i am 100% queer as well and will never tell my family until i’m 30 and living in my own home. Discrimination is something that will affect many people and it valid to worry about that. I hate the way that they showed the here, honestly i find it funny that parents will cry as if the world is over and view their child in way that pity them in a helpless demeanor. That’s what my og comment about he’s a grown man who’s committed to his lover and while he as happy as he can be his mother cries for him as if he has died, not crying happily that he’s still alive, that he found someone he loved, or tears of acceptance. I’ve seen these pity tears irl… it leaves you feeling guilty not supported.

i hate this excuse, because you don’t understand how it feels when this excuse is used against you as the queer child with cultural parents.

i definitely think it’s both, and lgbt people are still heavily discriminated everywhere, not just korea their are many states in the USA that are completely dangerous for queer people. but i think her type of worry leaves a bad aftertaste in my mouth, i’ll say it.

your comment leave a bad aftertaste in my mouth, i’ll tell you that. his mom will always worry about him bcs she yk.. birthed him. he is literally her youngest baby. “if he can’t handle the pressure of being gay, that’s on him” wtf is wrong with you. honestly. like what is wrong with you.

i’m done with the narrative that queer people are doomed to suffer… being gay isn’t a tragedy. if my comment leaves a bad aftertaste in your mouth then maybe you haven’t dealt with this discrimination face to face from family (or maybe you have, in that case you asking whats wrong with me is hysterical) i have already acknowledged that the mother worries is valid “obv i understand the mom worried about the discrimination stuff” from what i said here or in my other comments, but my problem is her mourning of the son she once had and don’t tell me she isn’t “my poor baby” or even the sister saying the mother is blaming herself that her son is gay. when it comes to being gay, people always will assumes the worst will happen to you from society and other people that doesn’t make you feel supported at all. We as gay people KNOW the worst of it, we think about it day to day (i’m tried of other rubbing that in our face crying for us and victimizing themselves for us) , that’s why i said he does need to handle to pressure of being gay! because that is his and the many other realities of other lgbtq people we will have many moments of facing discrimination alone and learning to cope with that is part of living life to our fullest! of course we need we need to also be allowed moment of weakness, love, and support to make us stronger and better, all that but not pity.

wdym type of worry? it’s a valid worry of a mother to her own kid knowing how public will possibly treat him she’s not looking at it like her son is doomed but looking at it at a protective mother’s perspective/instinct. i think you should see BOTH sides of the narrative here.

ok again i’ve never said her worry wasn’t valid. i’ve seen both sides of the narrative and my comment is based on my personal experiences. i’m sure the author will justify the mother and wrap this up in a happy ending and i get that. that doesn’t stop the annoying feelings i get when feeling parents in manga act like this. if the son stood right there and saw her reaction, do you think he would feel happy or supported? or would he feel guilty that being gay brought his mother that much worry that she cried and blamed herself. you see this is my issue, in moments like this for me PERSONALLY it doesn’t come out as love sometimes and makes it seem like being queer is a burden to other. i have seen both perspective in media and irl.

his mother worrying about him is love. all of that worries stemmed from the love she has for him. how she reacted is the reality. some parents need time to accept it and that’s okay. you can’t expect people to immediately accept it (yes, i’m bi. before you start saying “you don’t know anything about sexuality!”. i am scared of being outed everyday) even though that’s how it should’ve been.

after reading this, i can see your view clearer.

I know some parents need time to accept it and where their worries stem from, my feelings don’t come from her being worried, more how she expressed it. Again reactions like that make people who are queer feel like they disappointed their parents instead of being loved, even if she comes from a good place. I know this is a reality for many like me and you, but why should I not feel frustrated seeing this over and over again in media. (Its real I get it so Im expressing what I think about parents like this) When being love and supported by others it should lift you up not make u feel like burden even if their intentions are good. Im just hoping she doesn’t act like this in front of her son.

Thank you, all Im trying to say after all that is I don’t want this kind of reaction from a parent to be seen as the standard or excused as “just how it is” sure we as readers can understand the mother point of view but this would hurt anyone feelings seeing a parent react like this. I hope this world get to a point in this world where parents respond with love and happiness instead of completely thinking the worst.

i get your point really. but her reaction is reality for me and some of asian families. i know if the mc sees that initial reaction, he might misunderstand the mom. but through healthy communication (which i think their family has) both of their povs will be understood. coming from an strict asian household, this is how usually our parents react and should not be seen as entirely bad thing. anyways like you, i do hope parents of this generation will continually improve on taking this matter. the side stories really show unique family dynamics for me.

i’m hispanic with immigrant parents that were raised christian, i know like many asia cultures, it’s also a very family oriented culture. this reaction is the reality for many mexican children like me as well. it’s because i relate so deeply to this reality i will take it more to heart and am more critical over it. especially after witnessing my uncle being kicked out of the family over this. i mean i think this is a matter of opinions but i don’t think it should be ok for this reaction to be the norm. not saying it’s overly bad or evil but that’s just my personal opinion.

Brace yourselves it's long

it sounds like we’re in pretty similar situations, and I get that the response you want from your family is not pity, but love and support. It makes sense that you’d interpret this scene through the lens of the blatant homophobia in your own family, especially given what happened to your uncle. That’s a painful reality to live with, and I understand why it affects how you see this moment.

But I think this scene wasn’t meant to show rejection—rather, it was a mother processing something big in a way that reflects her own fears for her son’s future. As kids, we try not to disappoint our parents, and it’s hard not to feel guilty when our existence itself seems to worry them. But worry doesn’t always mean rejection. Parents who love their kids deeply will still grieve sometimes, not because they see them as helpless, but because they know the world can be cruel, and they don’t want them to suffer.

I’ve seen my own mom cry for me, and it hurts because I love her and she loves me. When I realized I was different, I cried too—not because I was ashamed, but because I knew what it would mean for my life. Eventually, when I do tell my family, I expect tears, and I’ll know they come from a place of love and fear, not rejection.

Your fear, on the other hand, comes from a very real place—seeing what happened to your uncle and knowing your family’s stance. That’s not love, and you’re right to feel hurt by it. In this scene, though, I don’t think the mother is rejecting her son or pitying him in a demeaning way. She’s feeling the weight of it, the way many parents do, but that doesn’t mean she won’t eventually find peace in seeing him happy. The sad reality is that not everyone gets that, and too many people are forced to choose between family and living their truth. It’s heartbreaking and unfair, and no one should have to carry that burden.

I hear where you’re coming from, and I get why this portrayal didn’t sit right with you. I just see it differently—not as a mother rejecting her son, but as a mother struggling with her own emotions in a way that, while imperfect, still comes from love.

this!! i think this the other side the op didn’t see much. worry is not equal to rejection already and not entirely negative and if comes negative to the pov of the other, this is something that should be communicated about. no child is perfect, and no parents is also.

fr all i want now are side stories where they are out and proud. to the world, the group, right after the end or set many years later, whatever

oh yeah i feel ya. i thought the bet was gonna play a big part in their changing relationship too but ig it’ll never happen? no way they try to resolve every plot hole in these side stories instead of the main :/

when the way it’s heading i don’t even think they will resolve it at all… but again i have no idea where this story will go

Neighbors rice cake I mean in the beginning neither likes each other that much but then both of them love each other amd now they are married and there's not much drama I mean there is one thing but it gets better quickly

i finished it… and i had opinions on it… good recommendation really appreciate it

Oof this is hard alrigight how about brother’s lover although it is twisted since their is lots of manipulation and stuff read the spoilers before you read in case that's not your cup of tea
Unsleep seems to be good but you gotta let it marinate
A ridiculous drama....expect for the betrayal by the ex it's practically fluff
Our sunny days no drama really good
Cold blooded beast lots of drama because of rebirth but both love each other
Cherry doll scandal it's the best
Stranger the novel is better but age gap is there
Secretary to stage although the sex scenes gave me a heart attack
For you who grieves except for the beginning where the mc is rebirn and ml does not recognize it's all good
Can't think straight has got the best chara development, there's no pining they both fall in love at pretty much the same time

My bad i forgot brother’s lover got sone pining

thank you so much i have some that i’ve already read and some that i’ve never seen, i have a bunch to read now :)

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