So that there won't be any misunderstandings, the artist SUCKS at creating fl's expressions. They made her seem as if she enjoys what happens to her. That is NOT the impression you get from the book. And for those who call her stupid, try growing up in her environment, groomed and abused and you'll see how your oh so intelligent self wouldn't be as such, especially in this time period with literally ZERO true social interactions. I fucking hate ml, he's even more disgusting in the book.
If one person loved her, that was Fabian but he died unjustly from the hands of that worthless sociopath who gets a kick from torturing a little girl that has nothing to do with what happened to him and his mother. He DOESN'T care about how she feels and what happens to her as long as he can have her around to use her. He only cares about power, he's nothing but a hollow piece of trash that is unable to ever feel anything as emotionally complex as love. He's only capable of selflove. He sees her as someone bellow him, as less than an object. Life next to him is and will keep on being miserable for fl. Fuck i would pay the author to read an alternative ending where he dies painfully so i can laugh. But that's not possible so... The novel was just misery porn unfortunately.
That piece of crap saying he loves her is such a fucking joke. He only loves himself and his pleasure.
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Ah yes, you said sorry for one of the countless disgusting things you've done. What now? Want a cookie for it?
Still better than nothing at least. Also Taeui is HORRIBLE at explaining. I think he most likely confused Ilay even more with that half assed explanation about how emotions work.
Notice how there's no romance tag? Brace yourselves
This was an absolutely heartbreaking story which didn't sugarcoat the effects of abuse, mental and physical. Sexual abuse WASN'T romanticised nor justified, no matter what the translator notes said, which misinterpreted a lot of the scenes. It was so painful and realistic, i barely stomached most scenes. The ending was painfully sad because if you notice the detail of Minho questioning once again what's the meaning of staying alive, it indicates that actually nothing changed and his abuser successfully managed to break his resolve for a better life, he managed to distort his view, making him instead believe that there's nothing there for him. His first successful attempt at breaking Minho was when he beat Minho and canceled his Job opportunity. This job was an incredibly important step for Minho, it was the moment he finally found the courage to pursue something after all that guilt. It wasn't about the money, it was about the mental strength to get back on his feet and he had this utterly crashed. Then add the constant mental and physical abuse, the voice which kept on repeating to him that he doesn't deserve forgiveness and that he's cheap. The gangrape scene and him saying "pay me first" absolutely broke me. Minho didn't return to Wookyung because he forgave him but because he is trauma bonded to him, because he was made to believe that there's nothing but his abuser in store for him. He doesn't love Wookyung, not even in the sexual sense. He's a straight man that was continuously raped, let that sink in. He's not bisexual, he's straight. He's a victim of sexual abuse and nothing more. His coping mechanism of drinking to disassociate or having sex was so realistic it kind of hit close to home.
As for Wookyung, yes he's also a victim of abuse, just like many abusers. This of course doesn't justify his demented actions of abuse. Noticed a certain pattern with him? Even when he felt sorry about something he did, he still repeated the abuse. He didn't stop. He was blind to ANYTHING Minho felt. Yes, abusers can feel sorry about what they do, but only in the moment, because in the end, it's all about them and the dependency they have in their victim. He is mentally ill and unless he gets treatment, he'll never be able to truly love someome. It will constantly be "sorry" then back to selfishness and abuse. The ending symbolised that nor Wookyung nor Minho changed their situation, Wookyung once again chose to be selfish by begging him to come back and Minho is still depressed and purposeless after being broken by Wookyung.
I loved this story because it's fucking realistic, unapologetically showing us the ugliness of abuse. It's NOT a romance story. Personally, i find the 'uWu hEs yAnDeRe' or 'bDsM it's SeXy when Minho cries' takes incredibly shallow regarding this masterpiece. These two aren't meant to be 'shipped', they are characters in a story depicting something very painful and true to everyday life.
On the topic regarding Caesar and Leewon's empathy: You can understand someone without excusing his actions. Trauma isn't an excuse for abuse, it just explains how someone is primed to think.
Don't get me wrong, i like the story because i like dark stuff but i still do NOT think that his upbringing should be used as an excuse for his actions. He still had the option to not be a piece of trash, he knows that he IS hurting Leewon, but his selfish need to possess him overpowers this.
A relationship cannot work with selfishness as its foundation.
Lots of people grow unloved, chased, abused and even tortured but still do not become abusers. Now you'll tell me he didn't have the time to actually grow as a person due to the fact that he's in the mafia and therefore constantly in war since his biryh, and i'll tell you sure, you're right. But this still doesn't change the fact that he's a horrible human being and his backstory doesn't and shouldn't earn him forgiveness but only an explanation.
Outside of fiction NO one deserves the torture of being with a person like him.
My point is, no one needs to "remember" his past while witnessing his disgusting actions, rough childhood or not, understanding his insecurity born from his unloving environment or not.
You don't need to remember his 'sad past', when you feel disgust for what he is doing in the 'current' moment. His past doesn't remove the effects of his actions happening at the current moment and thinking it does, is in my opinion an incredibly damaging mindset to have.
Empathy doesn't warranty sympathy, especially when you're the side receiving the abuse. Empathy means you have the ability to understand someone and understanding someone's feelings, motivations and mindset doesn't mean you have to agree or even forgive it if it affects your personal values and wellbeing. I'm really annoyed when people(not in this comment section necessarily, i'm just speaking in general) think that with empathy you automatically forgive and accept everything about the other person. It cannot be explained in such a simplistic way because it's a way more complex process.
This article is the only one i found which explains it in a simplistic yet accurate way: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/social-empathy/202008/empathy- does-not-mean-acceptance. (connect it from where i left a space for the link to work)
I know this is purposely written to be dark and all, but i think it's really badly written, to the point i can't enjoy it. Their dialogues are certainly not intelligent, ml who is supposed to be cunning and smart, can actually easily get humbled, it was really frustrating seeing fl getting so easily swing around by him. He's not smart and the things he says can easily be turned against him, to the point i want to scream when fl doesn't take the opportunity. I've read black flag romance before, where fl truly gets cornered by ml, without any opportunities to fight back, so this story is pretty mid to me.
Turns out i have a kink for dirty talk in formal English.I just wish it wasn't straight up rape with a completely inexperienced mc as well. It felt very creepy and uncomfortable.
Be prepared because in the book, he blackmails him after planning his friend's execution and forces him to sell his body to him. He calls him a whore (funny when the whore is him) and brutally rapes hi, he doesn't even prepare him and goes in dry, making him bleed. Reading his pov, he enjoys seeing Ruth in pain, beca he's a sadistic psychopath if it wasn't already clear from the glass scene. His thoughts are extremely nauseating, he holds no affection for Ruth he just finds him to be a good toy. The rape chapter is approaching, probably in 4 or 5 webtoon chapters the most. I was really disappointed reading the novel.
In the first timeline, Aeroc suffered beyond human understanding and was punished by Kloff unfairly. Yes, you read that right, it was unfair. I'm not saying the weigh doesn't fall on Aeroc's shoulders for wanting to 'scare' Rapiel, but getting constantly raped, having his original gender (Alpha) changed with drugs and then having his children (created by rape) taken away while he rots with zero human interactions in a small hut over something he VERY clearly regretted and he didn't even intent (he didn't order for the rape and murder of Rapiel, he was just too naive to trust the scoundrels he hired. We already knew he was naive from his investment choices) is extreme. He lived in the streets getting assaulted and raped only to be moved, to get through even more hell with Kloff. At one point, Kloff abused him only to try and justify the attraction he felt towards him, since he was in denial for liking the person who was indirectly(and some would argue directly) involved to his late husband's death. Kloff was so freaking messed up, that he even lacked the emotional understanding that someone can suffer without crying, because WHO THE FUCK wouldn't break and suffer after getting repeatedly raped and isolated? But i guess deep down he knew that, he was just going through cognitive dissonance due to his hatred. Kloff is NO better than the people who killed Rapiel, that's why i was furious when he was calling Aeroc 'Despicable' in his frail state. Kloff did something extremely demented to someone who didn't deserve it, and no one can deny this. Aeroc suffered more than enough and as bad as this may sound, he suffered way more than Rapiel did. His life was hell on earth and his last moments were disgustingly painful too. That's why in the other two timelines Aeroc gets the happiness he deserves. In the second, while having his memories of the past, he gets to live happily and heal while in the third timeline, he doesn't remember the hell he went through while Kloff does, and suffers forever with the knowledge that he'll never be able to apologize and give back the life to the frail Aeroc of the first life.