cuntryst4r June 19, 2024 4:52 am

genuinely what am i even reading.. not even about the physical pseudo incest which i can tolerate in this setting given the complex dynamics but like... at this point what is the plot? what is the conflict? it's just the same repetitive internal dilemmas recycled every ten chapters in a different location..

    Katkit July 17, 2024 11:14 pm

    Hey, this is a reply to "lady devil" if you wanted to read a different opinion:
    I think the story is both a mess and also genius since it has a commentary on a lot of different social discussions. If you take it as a literal story it's just a mind fu*k but if you take bits, it says a few things:
    1. A story about the generational trauma inflicted by a madman? And also war which took many lives.
    2. A story about the decrepit way women have been treated by men and the abuse some women put those feelings towards abusing those they "love" though the same or similar torment (as much as they can make it the same while not doing the same if that makes sense?)
    3. A commentary on poor mental heath due to outside factors and trauma one has experienced throughout life which certainly could be helped with therapy but if not then I guess just being of a stronger mind than the thoughts / hallucinations to pull you through will do it?
    4. The coming of age story where messed up things have happened unto the main characters but it allowed them to grow a lot more and decide on their own future?
    5. The desire for forbidden/ unattainable things and the action of taking innocents lives, which in this story, ends up destroying every person who held or coveted things they shouldn't have: the mother with the abuse to use wishes to attain things, the father who abused his "son" to obtain more land and riches (and I suppose more power?), the father of Indris who wanted his son's "lover", and of course the nanny who pushed to destroy a family which had already been cursed to be destroyed by taking a baby's life. Possible that this was just a warning type story but the ending doesn't make sense.

    At any rate, I'm sure there's more to find in this story but I am also confused like you :) Thanks for letting me rant my thoughts haha

    cuntryst4r July 18, 2024 11:13 pm

    it's a very nuanced novel, for sure! i could say that for the earlier half, i was completely enthralled i couldn't put it down. the way they battled with the complexity of humanity and its fickleness was captivating. all the characters' morality came into question.

    in the later parts, however, starting from when they first ran away, it became a repetitive dilemma of her loving him, hating him, leaving him, and then getting back with him. it became a cycle and it got repetitive and tiring. i stopped at ch 120 so i didn't know what happened eventually.

    idk if i'm just not looking more into it but i lost interest at that point that i couldn't care less what happened next. this is a good perspective on it though! thank you for this.

    in my case, it just felt like is started off strong and ended pretty weak.

cuntryst4r June 14, 2024 7:32 am

oh these next few chapters are going to be rough coming from a novel reader

    pixelated lightsabers June 14, 2024 8:26 am

    Pray tell me a snippet. I don’t mind

    vnzlyx June 14, 2024 10:55 am
    Pray tell me a snippet. I don’t mind pixelated lightsabers

    kidnapped, threatened, betrayal, rebellion, rescue

    pixelated lightsabers June 14, 2024 12:24 pm

    Very concise. Thank you

    cuntryst4r June 15, 2024 12:19 am
    Very concise. Thank you pixelated lightsabers

    heavy on unwanted incest as well

    143ILY June 15, 2024 6:48 am
    kidnapped, threatened, betrayal, rebellion, rescue vnzlyx

    I just need spoilers about who betrays who (/TДT)/ cause I can’t take it if Iz turn his back against Ruby

    bibblesb June 16, 2024 3:17 pm
    I just need spoilers about who betrays who (/TДT)/ cause I can’t take it if Iz turn his back against Ruby 143ILY

    no dont worry iz wont betray ruby BUT SPOILER AHEAD









    the queen will betrays ruby because caesare has threatened her

    143ILY June 16, 2024 5:08 pm
    no dont worry iz wont betray ruby BUT SPOILER AHEAD the queen will betrays ruby because caesare has threatened her bibblesb

    Oh no






    That’s why they exchange looks! I actually like her tho I think I might understand why she did that

cuntryst4r June 14, 2024 7:01 am

they're literally both deranged, but even more so wilhelm. how do y'all still fw him like that..

cuntryst4r June 11, 2024 4:50 pm

he's so pathetic i love him

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