Having a child is a 2 yes or 1 no situation. One person said no so it’s a no. End of discussion. There’s no budging from that until the person who said no feels differently. Don’t try to convince someone who is not yet ready to have a child to sacrifice their own happiness and career progression and time and energy. That’s the bottom line.
If you want a child and it’s not an option for right now, get a dog or a cat or a bunny. If you can successfully raise that pet and your partner can see that it won’t be affecting their happiness and career progression in a negative way, they might change their mind on it. But there’s never a rush for babies. Despite what people love to say, the quality of the child does not depend on the mother’s eggs. It depends on the father’s sperm. The egg does not expire. The sperm slowly loses its numbers and its vitality because the man (the one that has to create and produce sperm) loses vitality. A man who wants to father a child should work out regularly, switch to a healthier diet full of stamina foods and taking supplements. They should hydrate well and take care of their mental health because hormones absolutely do affect the whole body. Forcing an unhappy and anxious man to father kids when he doesn’t yet feel stable is only going to cause the baby to have issues. And he’s not wrong about childbirth deaths. Number 1 cause of death to women and child bearing people was childbirth and in many places in the world, it still is the number 1 cause. The chainsaw was designed specifically for the purpose of cutting the pelvic bone to make birthing easier. You cannot tell me that driving is more dangerous than childbirth when the chainsaw was created for birthing. Also you shouldn’t be rushing into having children without reading any research into it, reading any parent books, attending any parent classes, speaking to doctors about how to boost your own health in order for the child to be as healthy as possible, etc. If you want children, great! Do it when you’re in a stable position and can afford not only the costs but the time you need to take off for the child.
Sorry that was kinda long ╥﹏╥
I’m actually of the opinion that the king was in the wrong. He’s free to love whoever he wants but fathering another kid KNOWING that his youngest child has lived their whole life sacrificing the one thing their people were rightfully entitled to (freedom) is so selfish and cruel. The fact they never used protection and he never got snipped after his youngest with the Queen is so stupid. I find their whole culture stupid because this is exactly why it’s typically the eldest that becomes heir since no one can argue with or change who the oldest is. Two oldest two children get lessons in royal etiquette and leading and that’s that. Now I’m not for stabbing a child still in the womb but I have no issues with the Queen stabbing the attendant who found out they were pregnant and didn’t immediately abort. Queens have killed mistresses for less. She was understanding of their love and that was more than they deserved considering how many children the king and queen had and you can see the Queen did love the king. Everyone ended up a victim to the kings selfishness.
True... like wth.
Sure he can love whoever. But even if he can, doesn't mean he should. Or Atleast manage his kingdom better before boombayah and roll around the bed, make new rules or whatever. So there's no party feel burdened. Gosh the tragedy...
Talk to em !!!
Yesssss 100% agree!!! Fuck the king and fuck the mistress
He absolutely could have and should have changed the rules. Tradition is simply being peer pressured by people rotting in a grave or an urn full of ashes. Those people aren’t alive rn so they have no right dictating how thing should be run NOW. The youngest as the ruler may have worked back then but it doesn’t now. I hope the hatchling changes the rules.
Are you seriously jealous of her cheating lying bastard of an ex??? He’s AN EX!! Aka in the past!! Aka wasn’t worthy of her time and energy and got kicked to the curb! You won her! I get being jealous of someone better than you or someone who makes your partner feel the same things you make them feel but grow tf up. A cheating ex???? I’m disgusted and disturbed. Also him blaming her for her not telling him when his reaction is EXACTLY what she said it would be and why she didn’t wanna tell him in the first place is so disgustingly icky that I have half a mind to demand she leave him… and then dnf this book. DO BETTER ASSHOLE!
However… I hope she gets found out for having the doctors sons baby and then loses said baby and then gets imprisoned and dies. I also hope the count finds out he’s shooting blanks and he’s useless both as a man and a human and that he dies a horrible painful death for treason.
You were never man enough to put her in her soft feminine era. You were such a bitch that she had to step up to the plate to handle all the things YOU as her man should have handled and now you’re gonna be butthurt because you’re now realising that she is cute and she is feminine and she CAN rely on others but not YOU. Never with YOU. I hope that knowledge eats away at your every fibre.
I need someone to throw salt on this bitch ass ex.
I get she wants her bf there but when he says no multiple times because he feels uncomfortable because he’s being bullied and when you’re forcing your own partner into situations they don’t want to be in by holding things you do for them without them asking over their head? You’re an asshole. Woman to woman, that’s disgusting behaviour. You support your partner but you never force them to do something they aren’t comfortable with. I’m so proud of him for going up to her to get closure but I don’t think I’ll ever forgive her for the trauma she caused him to have.
Imagine signing a letter and then you get blinded and then suddenly there’s a person coming out of a portal (⊙…⊙ )
Also the translation at one point is wrong. Duke Carlos IS the mother. SHE is Duke Carlos. They made a huge deal about it earlier in the story that she was the only female Duke and that our girl is inspired by her. The translation seem to suggest that there is a mystery father or that the son is the Duke or that the mother is somehow now a “he” after being “she” all this time in the story.
Bottom and top fool around in college. Bottom wants more but top is hesitant so they grow apart.
Fast forward to years later and top goes to bottoms company to publish his book. Bottom is still upset about what happened years ago so he doesn’t submit it for review. He later gives the BDSM author aka old man the tops original work that wasn’t submitted (also in anger/upset). Old man publishes that story.
Top finds out and punishes bottom while recording it all. Top sends that video to the old man with threats since it’s plagiarism and he’s upset at both bottom and old man. Old man is upset at bottom so he punishes him (also with BDSM). Old man actually hated his original BDSM novel so when he found out bottom loves that story, he couldn’t stay mad and let the bottom go. He gives bottom advice to go to top and work things out.
I’m pretty sure the bottom doesn’t realise that he’s in love with the top and that he was just butthurt at being rejected. That’s pretty much all that happens. I’m not sure what ended up being confusing but I see a lot of comments about it.
like me i was confused simply because i wasn’t reading the story just assuming what’s happening by looking at the pictures and taking glances at the text. normally im so consumed by the story but sometimes it just happens this way! thx for explaining
Ur so real
Lmao, dumbass uke, I thought the old guy manipulated him or smth. Turns out he was just butthurt that he got "rejected" when the top obviously luvs him.
The old guy may have put the moves on first by showing him the video but the bottom was more than willing to fuck the author of his favourite smut book. In fact, the old guy gave the bottom at least 2 outs and the bottom didn’t take it. The old guy had to end it himself because he didn’t feel comfortable with where it was going and also because he felt some sort of sentimental affection to the fact that the bottom likes the book he felt wasn’t good enough in the publics eye.
So the bottom didn’t end it on his end? Does he like ML? If so, why would he continue those acts with the old man (not that they had any sex but some torture like BDSM play). I guess good on the man for ending it??
I feel it would’ve been nicer if bottom ended it on his own accord. Otherwise I get the feeling he would’ve let that continue on. Why didn’t he? Because he felt like he deserved the punishment?
SIDE QUESTION: How many BDSM acts did the old man and bottom do? I only saw one or two, the tying up I think, and the one in bath.
As I’m typing this, I see your last paragraph about bottom not realising his love for seme. But didn’t he know he likes top if he wanted more when they were in college?
Yes the bottom likes the top. He is unaware of his own feelings since it’s a very muddy feeling of both love and resentment (of being rejected and neglected). Like I said, that’s his favourite BDSM author and he wanted to feel what he felt in the book in real life. He didn’t end it cause he’s an idiot and doesn’t actually know where his limits lie but also he did feel like he deserved punishment. He thought he would be fine but the old man wasn’t willing to burn someone’s tongue with a cigarette and he couldn’t do it to someone who liked the book most of society hated (aka his book baby).
As I saw, they did 2 main plays with a side of voyeurism and partial neglect. I think he was in that bathtub for an hour or longer.
Not everyone is in touch with their emotions and a lot of people aren’t actually as self aware as they imagine themselves to be. The bottom is less self aware than the average person. He likely didn’t realise that enjoying BDSM was less of a hobby and more of a lifestyle choice and that he likes his college friend. In fact I’m not even sure if he fully knew at the time that he’s 100% gay. I said it previously but his feelings of love are muddied with resentment and rejection. He felt both humiliated and abandoned when the top wouldn’t have sex with him and then ghosted him for a week or longer. When the top came back into the picture ready to explain, the resentment had already set in deep. That’s why he lied and said he had a lover already. It’s just very juvenile and toxic behaviour from all 3 men actually. This is NOT a fluffy manga. Ch1 fooled us with a good sadistic dom for once and then it went downhill from there ╥﹏╥
Did the bottom or top sleep with anyone else during their separation? Cause if it says they didn’t, it’s unrealistic to me + cliche trope of “loyalty”.
The bottom is less self aware than the average person? You have some words! Damn.
Voyeurism? What chapter was that? I might’ve forgotten. In ch 4?
No clue. I assume the bottom hasn’t but I honestly couldn’t tell you.
The old guy is sat in a chair next to the bottom while he’s in the bathtub. Yes he has a book but it’s hinted at that they were in the bathroom for a long time so the old man would have looked at the bottom so that’s voyeurism since they didn’t do anything sexual. He was just watching. Theres also an element of humiliation play but the bottom didn’t feel humiliated so I didn’t mention it earlier. The voyeurism is part of the humiliation play. It’s almost like saying “I’m going to watch you while you’re tied up pathetically ass up in a bathtub cause you get off on that stuff.”
Aw shit my bad I thought voyeurism was a third party watching a couple go at it or something.
Voyeurism is simply getting enjoyment by watching someone. Whether it’s the partner or a third party, it doesn’t matter. Exhibitionism is getting enjoyment out of showing yourself (and maybe your partner).
So everyone’s doing voyeurism rn?
Haha lol technically we are partaking in porn not voyeurism but I mean it’s also not NOT voyeurism lmao. But it’s gotta get you off. The act of watching rather than participating.
I don’t like voyeur. I like exhibitionism, it’s dawned on me after having this conversation
YAY!!! We’re learning more about ourselves!! That’s awesome! I’m probably more the same as you but I’m a sadomaso switch so sometimes I like voyeurism. Depends on how sexy the person is in front of me
I get it. Personally I like to peg my boyfriend….he’s pretty sexy alright and eventually loved his prostate being touched, I thought it was a shame I couldn’t be a “real switch” since I don’t have a real pp. I get extremely turned on during consensual non-con role play where he’s crying or other role plays when I do degrading actions and saying degrading words (which he likes), I’ve also tried binding his hands which went well + blindfolds for beginner.
I swear I always tell god I was supposed to be a man (satire, but I do jokingly say it after my prayers depending on context of my prayer). Like it’s not the same having fake pp vs heat conductor real pp (what am I saying, sorry).
Also, how do I figure out if I’m a sado/maso?
You are a real switch hun! I also don’t have a peen. If you enjoy seeing him cry and like degradation and things like that and stuff that “hurts” him (not really really hurts him but just enough to melt into the pleasure) then congrats you’re a sadist. If you enjoy those things being done to you, congrats you’re a masochist! If you have both then congrats you’re a sadomaso ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Also, I sometimes with I had a real peen myself. I have pcos and endo personally so sometimes I get really mad at any and all gods for allowing this to happen to me lol. I just don’t think I’d want the hassle of a real peen cause you know.. swimmers can cause problems if you don’t want them.
I hate the ex gf in the past. I hate this whole “I did xyz and I expect xyz in return!” Mentality. It really detracts from the actual kindness of doing these things. Also he’s right. He actually never asked. As flawed as he was and as self centred as he was back then, when someone tells you they are scared or uncomfortable, you should listen to them. You shouldn’t judge them for it. If she wants to know what he is like as a person, she should have held a safe space for him to explore who he is with her and then not judge him for it. Uyun does that for him. Uyun loves him exactly as he is. He has no preconceptions of who his bf should be. He has no expectations for his partner at all. He has standards and holds his bf to those standards but that’s it. That’s a healthy relationship. She was not healthy and hasn’t changed at all. She still thinks it’s all about her. It’s not. You wanna date a younger traumatised BOY and then question why he’s emotionally immature??? That’s on you bitch. That’s not how this works. As for love, he probably started out loving you until you became what his father was. Normalise supporting people by asking what they want and need and only doing that much. Normalise supporting people by prioritising efforts and not the result (especially academics). Normalise supporting people by holding no expectations and only having personal standards. Expectations are shackles to control a person. Standards are like a cover fee to enter a building.