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Yeah the comments here would you lead you to think he is like deranged and...the ex is still worse? I don't get it. I have seen the raws too.

yeas everyone keep talking about how bad the baker would be, but he really isn't that bad. the MC ex is much worse XDD so...I still like the baker.

So far, have you seen anything kind, good, merciful, generous, loving, or worthy in the blue-haired brother? When? Where? Where has he been nothing but crap?

ok lol first of all im sorry but i think you really need to chill about jiwook. also he honestly has my sympathy because it's obvious that he's scared shitless about joohoon and it's implied that the same thing would've happened to jiwook if he didnt somehow replace himself with someone else. i don't understand why you literally block out anyone who hints that jiwook might have his own reasons but idk have fun living in your echo chamber buddy

+ it's very interesting why you insist jiwook saying 'i nearly lost my brother because of you' is him faking it when he literally has no reason to fake being nice to siwon when joohoon knows everything about him. seems genuine to me ngl. maybe you could consider the idea that jiwook was acting tough and bitchy on purpose to siwon when he came because he didn't know if siwon really lost his memories and tried to continue acting like he used to because he was scared. idk tho u don't seem to handle other opinions very well

+ one last thing.STOP SAYING THAT JIWOOK SHOULD GET RAPED AND KILLED. i understand that you really hate him but that should never mean that the character 'deserves' to get killed. ur sick honestly

Because he literally told his brother who had just come out of the hospital that he was a loser who should have died. That's why I don't believe he gives a damn shit about him.

Please feel free not to read my comments if what I say bothers you so much. Others have said he should die, too. Are you gonna yell at them , too?

Younger sibling with inferiority complex detected. (▰˘◡˘▰)
Sibling rivalry is one thing, arranging your twins rape and bullying him until he tries to kill himself is another.

i mean you literally covered the entire forum with your posts so it's kinda hard to see if other people have been wishing for jiwook's rape but if you point them to me i would gladly do so. that aside you haven't addressed the issue that it's wrong to simply say that you want this character to get raped and commit suicide or get murdered because i don't personally think he's a very nice character boohoo. also please feel free to not read my comment if what i said bothered you so much too!!

it's amazing to me how little logic there is in those 2 sentences wow. i literally said that he might've been trying to play it tough because he was unsure about siwon's alleged memory loss and you're just gonna be like 'oh no he's a mean character therefore he's a liar'. it's up to you whether or not you want to give him a second chance but you've been commenting on everyone that feels sorry for jiwook that they shouldn't because he's an cold hearted evil son of a bitch that definitely doesn't have his own backstory. insane.

1. I don't can't what others say XD this is my opinion from personal experience.
2. for what he say after the hospital - I guess I can say it again, he is jealous, he is selfish and he does hate him cause, again he is jealous. his jealousy didn't born from the air, you know. it born from the parents and society around them. jealousy is common between brothers, very common XD
3. I don't think that even if he is jealous, that he wanted his brother to die. no, he didn't. he want to see him suffer, yeas maybe. but die? nope! how do we know? look at fox expression in this chapter after he yalled at the guy that arrange the rape. his expression say it all, and you can't fake that kind of expression and he didn't have any reason to fake his expression, since he was alone in the room with no one looking at him. so..yeas.
again, I don't blame you for hating him. but he have his resons.
has for him been "kind, good, merciful, generous, loving" I don't expect someone that is dying from jealousy towerd his brother to be those things to him, cause it won't make sense. why would he be kind to someone he super jealous and hate him for years? XD
has for worthy, he much more better then that guy that arrange the rape that call him in my opinion. cause this guy that called look super crazy and much more fucked up then fox could ever be XDD

Imagine how scared Si Won would be if he HAD survived and had all his memories intact, mmkay, sweetie? And NO ONE was around when Ji Wook made that comment, so, just like you said with his comment to Jo Hoon, he had NO reason to 'fake' being 'tough' and 'bitchy' to Si Won, because, as YOU said, Jo Hoon knows everything about him. Plus, Si Woon hadn't even come out of the room, yet, or maybe you hadn't noticed that, either? Or did you just miss those points like you did with Jo Hoon's response to Ji Wook when he blamed his brother's suicide on Jo Hoon? Hmm?

Do you say that about Ji Wook then? Obviously not. So that would make you a hypocrite. Because he LITERALLY wished his brother dead. KT.

My name is the first thing that is visible. You skip my comments by not reading further than my name. :D

Reply to the comment where they said it, then, sweetums. Not to one where they make NO mention of such a thing. KTBN.

I mean, the only reason he would have had to be scared when Si Won HAD JUST COME OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, was because of Jo Hoon. But you NEGATED that just prior to that very sentence. Contradictory much?

And a very pertinent point about FAKE: We saw how fake Jiwook is in how he behaves in front of his parents, versus alone with SiWon, versus SiWoon showing up in the hallway. He switches personality very fast. That means he's great at being fake.

The reason I thought about the "switch" of twins and seeing how much SiWon remembered is if, when the brother jumped off the roof, the other changed identity: in other words. Jiwook is SiWon and SiWon is Jiwook, but since Taemin wouldn't know who he is except they TOLD him he was Siwon...it's very possible we've seen a twins switching of places, which explains the continual insistence on "my place" and "how hard to get here, " etc.

again, his parents or friends wasn't there in his room - HE WAS ALL ALONE IN THE ROOM! I can repet it has much has you need. people have no reason to fake expressions when they are alone. cause there is no one there to judge, simple has that.

I don't think the perents even know about all the rape and the switch thing that, I"m guessing his twim brother protect "fox" from. the Details we still don't know, but something is a fact here - fox WAS the one who was suppose to be rape, not his twin brother. that is a fact! whatever he use his brother or not, I don't believe anything that crazy guy that called him said- cause he is much more fucked up then anyone so far! so I don't trust him! I trust fox much more then that crazy fucker!

When he was alone with SiWon: told him he should have stayed dead.
When he was witih Siwon and SiWoon: told SiWoon that his brother was a slut who'd suck any dick.
When he was alone with SiWon going to school: Said he could beg again and he won't help.
When he was alone with Siwon: mentioned sneeringly how SiWon begged on his knees for him to help.
When he was alone with SiWon: said SiWon better not think he could keep what he had.
When he was alone in the bathroom: wished SiWon would just "stay dead" forever and mentioned giving "something good" to the bullies (presumably the dvd of the rape) so that the bullies could use it to humiliate and threaten SiWon.

If there is one thing that is consistent about Jiwook is that he always treats SiWon as if he wanted him 1. humiliated 2. Bullied 3. Dead.

Oh, and I"m agreeing. He has no reason to be fake at all when he is alone, or even, let's be honest, when he is alone with the brother he considers a loser. People don't tend to need to put up a front with those they consider vastly inferior, weak, and under their thumb. They're more likely to be fake withi those who can give them perks, power, affection, praise, etc.

he wasn't alone if his brother was there - I"m talking about the new chapter, there he was alone in the room and only talk in the phone. the brother wasn't there, the perents wasn't there. and he did look angry at that crazy guy he talk with - he REALLY did! he didn't fake that.
he can't be alone if he is with his brother, again - I will repet it - he wasn't with his brother this chapter. he was ALONE in his room and the crazy guy call him.
when he was alone in the bathroom he talk about something that seem like he was freek out about. like his brother existance is scaring him, Tamin was right by the way about him XD he is scared. why we don't know, but when he was alone in the bathroom he confrom what Tamin just said about him - he super scared and super jealous of his brother.
that's why Tamin never took him too seriously if you notice.
again - he treat Siwon like that cause of how their perents grow them out, prefer Siwon over him, always compare them and always make him feel like he worthless.
again, jealousy between brothers don't born from the thin air or out of nowhere. if you want to hate someone, hate the perents and the spocity that make them that way and decided who better then who for no good reason.

*and the socity

Of course he's scared. His brother is acting totally the opposite and he met Joohoon--he's scared that Joohoon and him somehow connected. And he's scared, too, that his brother isn't a little wimp begging for help, but is being pursued by SiWoon, whom Jiwook wants to be HIS pal. Maybe he fears that his brother is gonna conspire with Joohoon to get back at him.

When he was alone in the bathroom, he was talking about wanting his brother to stay dead and he send the dvd to the bullies to beat up SiWon.

Now, if this is a twins switch, it makes it more complex (and brain-teasing).

As far as comparisons: it's tacky and it's damaging. But that doesn't excuse treating your brother as if he deserves to be everybody's bitch and should die.

He said to Joohoon, are you going to blackmail me. Someone only says that if they've done something really bad.

Anothet thing is that I haven't given up on the possibility (yet anyway) of the twins switch. If he thinks that JooHoon has realized he did a switch (is that what the blackmail is about) or the JooHoon knows Jiwook set up his brother's rape (if that's what happened), then both of those are dangerous to Jiwook, reason for terror, and reason to worry about what his brother will remember or do.

Jiwook is afraid of Joohoon (naturally ,he's dangerous) and of his brother (who is upsetting his plans/life/position, and possibly a lot more.)

I think you should read the new chapter again, cause it seem even before his brother soicide and change, and before the rape thing, he was scared of him.
he always felt, at least that how it seem in this chapter, like his brother want to get rid of him - the babble that seem like his brother say "he hate him", the brother never said to fox he hate him, at least I don't think so. I think the brother did care about him, but to fox it seem the opposite.
and everyone, that don't even know him already say how much better his brother is from even before getting to know the two - the people that show up in this chapter.
so again, I think that hate and jealousy was born from a long long time ago from a very young age from the act of the others always comparing him to his brother and how much his brother so much better then him. and yeas I think he always was scared of him, even before the change.

in the bethroom he talk about how his brother existance threatens his life, what is weird since the brother don't seem like the bully type. this new chapter actually made things much more clear and make sense why the twin existance threaten him that much. and I blame a lot of the perents, that never praise him, only his brother. not cause he don't deserve to get praise, but only cause of preference. the perents prefer the brother over fox, what can make him get fuck up, and can destroy a family. perents should never do that!!

I don't know about them switch or not, we don't have enough details. but one thing is for sure, fox was suppose to be rape by that crazy guy. I"m guessing the brother protect him by agreeing to be him instead. but I don't think fox plan he soicide about this. he just got usud to be alone without him since he always wanted the perents to notice him. but my guess is they never did and kept going to his brother in coma so....yeas.

I never said it is excuse for what he done, but for now we don't know what he done or what been done to him or happen or who blackmail who. and from what it seem, the most crazy fuck up guy is the guy that called fox then fox himself that scared of him most of the time. so I say - who worse? to me it the crazy guy then fox that at least had some common sense. and didn't do anything to his brother even if he is insult him, what seem more like Tamin said, a dog that only bark. he wasn't someone that Tamin care much about cause he isn't dangerous like that crazy guy.

I"m not saying he is a good person, only that it realistic. people like that EXIST only cause of how the family prefer one brother/sister over the other and make them hate each other! it is something real! not that we should forgive him, only we should learn never to do that in our life or our family! cause it can ruin the family from the inside!!

or maybe that crazy guy blackmail him before and he just usud to be blackmail by this crazy guy. like I said, we don't know much about their Relationship to say for sure. but I tend to not trust that crazy guy! I just don't trust him.

ok thats just really depressing, hope it dosen't happen lol

I would happy if it wasn't, but the way it look now it really close to be just a dream.

Lets just PRAY it isn't a dream even tho it looks like one :))))

*I guess been gay is "bad" in this manhwa or something.

It is a BIG DEAL in this situation because Jaeha practically witnessed how Eunho grew up. The author also mentioned this on twitter. Zec also said, that's why Eunho is so desperate. Because Eunho wanted Jaeha to see him as a "man" rather than a kid brother.

yes yes exactly!

it's not. I was in his age and my friends mom wanted to Introduce to me someone in age of 30. it's not a big deal here at all if it in their age group, here is the 20-30 - IT'S THEIR AGE GROUP!!!

it is for some people, so we need to separate what we think from what character would think. and you didn't understand what they wanted to say, it's a big deal for him because he watched him grow so he has always seen him as a kid, and all of a sudden he tries to prove him that he's a grown up and a man. I'm a bit annoyed by Jaeha, but I get him in this situation.

well I get it in a way, since he kind of was his big bro. but he still wasn't that young, they make him seem like he's 2 years old or something XD and what to do, people do grow up, even if he did know him has a child, he need to get that people do "grow up" in the world. I think it still his fault for not getting it. I don't blame him for not loving him back right away or anything, I just think he need to get that people DO grow up. so what if he know him has a kid for a long time, 21 is NOT a child for sure XDD
and I did get his feeling when he confess to him has a child, no one will take it seriously. it true XD cause he was a child at the time, but he 21 now and still love him. I think it very impressive and cute.

Victim blaming now ? Wow

I"m talking about the guy that framed him and told everyone, he such a moron!!! OMG the main character fucking HELP him without even knowing!!!
this whole MANHWA is stupid! it's that simple!

And that's how an entrance should be like hhhhhh Luffy you rock hhhhh and those clones is it because he is super fast or did he learn the technic that doflamingo used by turning everything to strings ahhh anyway that entrance made mama outrageous hhhhh