Evie (JAYFG/IAYGFN)'s Topics (330)

Ok so there is a lack of focus on the current time and events, there aren't any reasons to care about them and the story lacks a goal

The story lack essence, it's pointless and I have no reason to care about the characters. They do things for the sake of doing them.

I am extremely disappointed since I started this with high hopes and high expectations as the author can beautifully paint a scene not just with their artistic abilities but also with words. They have a wells enveloped perception of reality but that's it.

This story lacks so much and it's just convoluted but in a way which lacks logic.

Am disappointed

I was expecting to find and unnoticed gem....

Developed*

I do support the orange corn head.

That's kinda sad but I do not live under the orange corn head so this will not affect my life or safety

I don't think it's sad to love my country or support my president. Why were talking about voting in the election if you're not American?

What difference does it make if I'm not American?

If you don't live in the country, then you don't really know what it's like to live there. Also, you can't vote for our president. Your support or lack thereof makes no difference.

So what? Either way my comparison makes sense so whatever you're trying to get at makes no sense.

I think there's no question that the better person was chosen in 2016; hopefully, he'll be chosen again.

That's an arrogant attitude to have. You are entitled to your opinion but your way of speaking as though you get to choose who can have an opinion is something I can't agree with.

Of course, you can have an opinion. However, I don't think you can have a well-informed opinion about a country you don't live in.

Well then, continue to be the butt of every country's joke.

You can, there is much more to knowledge than simply living in a specific place. Honestly if you limit your knowledge base to living in a certain place then your opinion is likely to be highly simplistic and not well thought out.

You can't know what it's like to live there unless you live there. Researching can help, but it's not the same.

I can by getting accounts from people who live there, if I know the experiences of many people then my understanding of it is likely to be far better than that of one individual who only knows their experience/the experience of those who are close to them.

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Her words shall be on the same level as a slap

I would say to you that there´s not reason to worry,and even if you think of it like that,just give it more chapters because if the manga is like the novel (which has been mainly like that until now) then the protagonist have much more reasons than what you think she have to try to stay close to Claire and is really mature (even if not seems like that at first)

Agreed. Even if she has a reason the way she's going about it is unsettling and moving closer to horror for me than "cute and romantic".

trust me that isn't what's happening. There's a lot happening behind the scenes which are motivating are MCs actions. This is only revealed until much later tho

Give me spoilers so that I can see if it's justified.






Like if the vilainess is gonna get murdered and the MC can only prevent that by being close to get (e.g. being a maid) then I can totally support this. Like the reason must be hella good cuz in this chapter the whole thing went from "Yasss cute yuri" fangirling to making my blood boil (just like any other story with an abusive relationship would.) Also, is there a good reason for us not to know what is going on behind the scenes?

I saw some spoiler from above that the reason for pushing her decision










It just stated that its a matter of life and death.
Ps. Sorry for bad english.

Yeah actually. That's exactly why. There's a reason why the villianess' ending was never discussed in the beginning.

Then give me the spoilers instead of being mysterious.

This person has been attacking yuris in different genres, I advised you to ignore this. She claimed to be lesbian and all but I can't sense it all I know is she's being homophobic when it comes to yuri, just look at her previous topics. She's been like that since she was born, I hope the Holy mother of yuri forgive her lmao xd

Guys, guess002 is mad at me and blocked me and is making those comments about me because I commentd "I'm sorry but that's a child right?, why draw a child, just draw two adults" under a manga that shows a child and adult having a sexual relationship.

It's in my post history.

Yeah I agree the mc is kinda creepy.

If it's not to your liking you can just keep reading your yaoi and stay away from yuri mangas

bruh, thats a child

First of all I'm lesbian. Second or all there is a difference between Yuri and child X adult. I can see that you don't know the difference based on the stuff you read.

Lol it can't even classify as a yuri, you need 2 women for that.

All i see is a woman and a child, that's pedophilia

Are you a fucing pedo

They gave this 5 stars so perhaps.

You're all giving way too much thought for just a mere a manga and also claiming that I'm a pedo is crossing the line. No, the story is just okay and hilarious in it's own way so I don't get why you all are so worked up hating the manga. It's just plain annoying

I also hate how you just like "just draw two adults" it's the mangakas choice so you don't go and say that. At the very least respect the work. That's why I'm telling you if it's not to your liking then just leave quietly. That's the very least you can do for the respect of the mangaka. Mind you, you're just reading this on a site that won't benefit them and seeing a comment like yours is simply annoying already for the fans.

You're literally defending child porn. Look if this was just a thing I wasn't a fan of that would be ok, people like different things. However this isn't about liking, it's about basic morals. I ain't gonna not criticize CP, I'm a decent human being. I will criticize the sexualisation of kids and the people who do it. I will also criticize murderers and rapist.

Stories that show adult X child relationship are helping to create a community for pedos. It's harmful wrong and it normalizes it. A lot of people on here are underage, you are probably very young. It's unhealthy to allow such thing to be on this website as minors will see such content and view it as normal.

There is a lot of manga for people to read that doesn't include the sexualisation of children. The author made the choice to make child porn, sure it may be their choice to do so but bad choices exist. A story with two adults would take as much effort to make so why not just draw two adults? Why are you defending it? You don't have to defend it.

Also, seeing people criticizing child porn may be annoying for you but people like you and the author who mix woman X woman/Yuri stories with child porn are the exact reason why some people see LGBT people as pedophiles. Have some respects for the LGBT community and don't call child porn "Yuri."

People are viewing you as a pedophile because you're defending child porn and you gave it 5 stars. That's not how a normal person should react to content like this. To them the only reasonable way to explain why you're defending this is to assume that you're one of the sick perverts who jerked off to this. I personally don't think that you're definitely a pedo but I do think that there is a chance. I just view you as a clueless young person who probably hasn't been reading manga for a long time that read a story without thinking and is defending it simply because they gave it a good rating. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind when people point out a huge issue with something you once supported. Its actually very healthy and enables you to have a healthier view of the world and it allows you to grow as a human being.

Also, you are here too. Criticizing me for reading stuff on here is like the pot calling the kettle black. And I wouldn't want to support this author.

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It's funny how I created this account just to reply to this argument. This manga is clearly not for readers like you just like what @kuudere said you just stay away from it and I also think calling and accusing people pedophile is beyond, this is just a simple fanfiction and it ain't promoting any of the things you've said. It's purpose is for Japanese readers because of declining birthrate, it didn't serve for you neither this site. I can understand kuudere's and yours. I'm quite fond of yuri and this kind of stories are common, the author is also a woman if I may say and the purpose of this wasn't promoting pedophilias and all don't give it a 5 star if you don't want to and just stay away from it. Wait, did after reading this caused you rage cause you've become pedophilia you say? No? Then it's all good, you ain't probably the target market of this manga and alike. Don't complain as if it was spoon-fed for you forcefully.

Lol finally someone who understands what I mean

I just get your standpoint and it's such a shame not to help you out, it's also funny how she went on your homepage just to say it's uncool reading not 18+ yuris that based on how I perceived it is ridiculous. I saw ur lists and you're following Itou Hachi and Nagori Yuu's mangas also negom's no? It's unnecessary engaging in this kind of argument if I were to ask, but there's an incredible amount hating this manga which I don't get at all. Matoi's been doing this kind of cliche yuris for the longest time. I also noticed that you didn't defend pedophiles but the authors which you said was also a woman, people in this comment section isn't even worth an explanation on how this kind of manga works(〜￣△￣)〜

This is the stupidest thing I have ever read. Have fun reading stories where adults fuck kids.

Also women can be pedophiles too.

YOU ARE AN ACTUAL PEDO OMG

Probably yes, I just hope that this is a young child that just isn't thinking things over and is supporting something blindly. I also hope that no one older takes advantage of them.

Tbh it's kinda sad but I do hope that this is just stupidity coming from an innocent person rather than it being a disgusting pervert who doesn't understand that kids can't give consent to something like sex.

Okay pedo
You truly disgust me, but there's nothing i could do other than avoid you. Have a good day, hope i never see you again.

Yuri or not, we're talking about the pedophilia. This is a child x adult, whether it's between women, men, whatever anyone identifies as, it's wrong. Just because an author worked hard for this and the fact that she's a woman (women can be pedos too.) doesn't exclude it from criticism or being judged. Pedophilia is, was and will always be morally wrong and there's nothing you can do to change that fact.
As for the "promoting pedophilia" part, we're not judging the purpose, we're judging the effect. The "target audience" is pedos or people who support pedos, both of which are increasing alarmingly as far as i'm aware. If this doesn't get the idea through to you, i don't know what will and i won't converse about this anymore. Have a good day.

Funny how kuudere and Guess002 didn't in any way support child porn or pedophilia in their comments. They're talking about lolisho, which is entirely fictional and separate from real children. Fiction =/= reality. The author didn't draw two adults cause that's not the story she wanted to tell. Simple as that. So yes actually, this is a situation where you'd just shut up if you don't like it.

Nothing you said is backed up by studies, professionals actually say the opposite. Lolisho doesn't create a community for pedophiles because pedophiles are attracted to real life children, they're not satisfied with drawings. Pedophilia btw is a mental illness, reading lolisho won't make you into one. Genuinely, what's more worrying to me is that you're so invested in what porn minors are looking at. To me, they shouldn't be commenting on any nsfw manga. But if they are, then it's no ones business to give a shit besides their parents. Adults like you talking to minors about what porn is healthy/normal for them is dangerous because even if you don't have bad intentions, they'll be more likely to trust the next adult that comes talking to them about sex. *That* creates a community for pedophiles to exploit.

By supporting this manga they are supporting content that involves a child x adult relationship. It doesn't matter if it's drawn or if it isn't. What matters is that this is a drawing of an under age child and an adult having sex. The auhtor wanting to draw child porn doesn't justify it being created, it's still child porn.

What you're saying isn't backed up by studies and no professionals don't say the opposite. Actually this can be supported by the behaviourist approach which works on the assumption that we are all born as blank slates (watch some documentories on feral children and you will notice how diffrently they behave from the average human) and that many of the things we learn are based on out enviroment and what we see. This process is also refered to as "socialisation" within sociology and it impacts us in many ways e.g. speech patterns. Things that are shown with society are normalized as when we see things often enough we end up accepting them as the norm. Therefore the production of content such as this does end up normalizing child x adult relationship especially if it's done on a large scale.

This is indeed not cp that involves a real life child (e.g. video) and while that does make it less bad to a certain extend, it's still bad. Either way it depicts a child and an adult. Would you still be arguing in favour of this manga and the people who support it if it depicted a sexual relationship between a dog and a human?

I never said that reading this will make someone into a pedophile (go through this whole convo and you will see that I am the person who suggested that them supporting this doesn't mean that they must be pedophiles). It's simply logical to say that people who are attracted to children will look for pornographic content with children just like lesbians will seek pornographic content involving women. Whenever that content is in the form of a manga and a video makes no differance. Also fiction and real life affect and mirror each other. What we as a society consider to be acceptable is largly affected by the media e.g. India, it's a country that produces a lot of content which shows fair skin as good while showing dark skin as bad by making the bad evil characters have a darker skin complection has a culture where fair skin is viewed as good while dark skin is viewed as something bad that you should want to change. The relationship between real life and fiction goes both ways however changing the way in which thing a is presented in either real life/ fiction will change how it is viewed in fiction/real life. Therefore by drawing art which presents adults x children relationships we can actually cause that to be socialy accepted. It's why Lgbt representation is important.

When content involving chilren is created and placed on a website which allows for communities to form then it's forming a community for them to use. People with an attraction to children should not be allowed to have any type of a community that makes it seem as though fucking a child is acceptable. This manga not only shows an adult x child relationship but it also shows it in a good light.

Your suggestion that adults informing kids about sex related things creating a community for pedophiles makes no sense. Based on this we would be going against things such as sexual education at schools. I don't see how educating teens on such things is a bad thing. Who else will teach them about those types of things? Isn't that just cutting them off from basic knowladge that everyone should know? Educating people abut sex is important as it teaches them things such as consent. Furthermore shouldn't the main consern be what is being taught? I really don't see why you're so concern over me saying what I am saying, if I was calling this manga good and if I claimed that this is how a healthy relationship looked like then I would get this criticizm, but here is the thing, I am doing the opposite of that and yet here you are, arguing in favour of such content. Wouldn't it be more harmful for minors to see content like this since it can lead them to think that doing such a thing between a child and adult is normal?

I hope that this clears it up for you. If you're still gonna stick by your view, I simply pointed out the truth (that this is an adult x child story) and I'm not going to argue with you about what is obviously true. If you want to argue about the rest then don't waste your time as I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. You're either foolish and not aware about why this is bad or you're one of the people who has reasons to defend this. Either way it's not worth my time.

Not reading all that, sorry. Did read the end and don't appreciate you implying I'm either too dumb to understand or a pedophile to disagree with you. Just direct your energy to vilifying people that exploit and traumatize *real* children in media

Actually, I do just want to say: I have nothing against sex education, considering sex ed teachers are the only adults, aside from parents, that should be talking to minors about sex. In a *professional* capacity. There is a HUGE difference between that and a stranger on the internet taking it upon themself to tell random minors what porn they should and shouldn't enjoy. I, as an adult, don't talk to minors At All about porn. I block them whenever I see it because they really should not be commenting in *adult spaces*.

I'm only saying this manga is free to exist, I don't condone these things irl obviously but fiction is different, while you're comparing it to reality and encouraging minors do the same. I said it's dangerous and it is because you, a stranger on the internet, talking to minors about sex tells them "some adults *are* okay to talk to in this way, they're *safe*" . Pedophiles trap children by making them feel safe. They will approach the same way you or other "well-meaning" adults do, and the minor will trust them even more easily because they already had a positive experience with you.

Let's just agree to disagree.

I'm fine with that. If only it meant you and others would stop harassing people, a lot of whom are child sexual abuse survivors, online by calling them pedophiles.

lol i was personally harassed by a pedo when i was 12 and it traumatized the shit out of me, i just hate people who try defending it with "oh it's just fiction" because that doesn't take away the fact that we can have an opinion and/or criticize sumn. Telling someone to just die is just as bad but this is to be expected in internet fights.

I respect your opinion as long as you don't support/indulge in pedophilia. Have a great day.

That's shitty, and you are 100% entitled to whatever opinion you want. I'm not a huge fan of lolisho either (got here from someone posting the link), but it *is* just fiction. So even if I'm personally uncomfortable by some of it, I'll just avoid it and support whoever does like it. Because it doesn't harm anyone. I also wouldn't respect someone that supports pedophilia, this just isn't that. Thanks for being respectful, have a great day as well

sums it up perfectly, thank you for taking the time to type that

Let me add a point from my perspective: YOU are aware that fiction=/= reality. CHILDREN are gullible. They can easily be manipulated into believing/supporting an ideology which they can't comprehend/understand.With more pedophilia-related mangas/stories being created and supported, pedophiles will become more bold (just like i saw on social media. Some woman was saying she's attracted to 2-12 year olds) and therefore influence minors into supporting them. This is concerning.

I agree that pedophiles gaining confidence is concerning, the "MAPs" on twitter are disgusting. But pedophiles can use *anything* to groom minors. Manga, toys, tv shows, whatever are all just tools for predators. I don't think lolisho encourages them to think their attraction is accepted. I'm in the pro-ship nsfw part of twitter and everyone explicitly puts 18+ and "no MAPs" in their bio and blocks any minors that follow them. It should be the same situation for nsfw manga, minors aren't the intended audience. Especially because you're right, they're more gullible. Unfortunately, like I said earlier, strangers trying to warn minors about this only endangers them in the long run. Parents have to be more vigilant with teaching their kids and monitoring internet activity, it's not our responsibility.

Well, i tried. Let's agree to disagree, we're just repeating points at this point lol

Have a great day

Alright. I don't see this as being a pointless convo, ty for being willing to explain ur view and listen to mine. Like a year ago, I would've agreed with you but opinions change

Me too.

I think that it's great that you're choosing to agree to disagree on this issue as there is no point in wasting your time. I think that you made some lovely argument that I never through about.

No one is harassing anyone here, this was a publicly made comment on a manga that people chose to engage in.

It's obvious that you're a part of the problem, Reading loli and shota with r18 stuff makes you a pedo, there are no excuses. If you are a teenager/adult you should have known better. Everyone here was once a kid and we know too well that nothing can stop children from looking at what they want, they will find one way or the other. Shit's like this manga are showing straight up pedophilia, I think It's inappropriate for everyone

:D your arguments were on point as well

You know arguing with them won't bring you anywhere, like you're not gonna get through their ears. It's just funny how they will see you on the bad side after defending this manga and see you as a person as if they know you really well. They're someone like goody-two shoes. They talked about supporting child porn yet they do not understand what lolisho means. This genres shouldn't be posted in this site, nhentai community knows better lmao.

Dear everyone, lolisho, lolicon and everything else like that includes underage girls is cp. Calling it something else doesn't make a difference. The "Loli" part literally means "little girl."

Definitely, first time I responded in a loong time. I don't expect to change their mind at all so it's funny that they think they can change mine by talking as if their opinions are fact. Unfortunate that they'll keep talking to minors about porn as if that isn't actual harmful behavior, but when have antis ever been helpful lmfao

They just don't understand, I guess? Mate, they claimed we're pedos just because we're trying to explain what these kind of genres actually meant and although I'm underage I really enjoy this. It's not the manga that has the problem here it's how they see this. If they find this that way, guess we can't do anything with it. It'd be like that sometimes. Prolly, next time we better ignore their ignorance ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

So stupid

Also, when y'all message me don't expect a reply. I literally can't reply to you because of the block. If you want a reply you have to unblock me.

This whole argument became pointless when:
1. The topic had become too shabby
2. That one reply causes a huge uproar
3. When people here have different opinions.

For the longest time, yuri is something unrelatable with whichever tags, take this forum for example you will know who have been a fan of yuri for a long time and just came here because it is something foul from the eyes of society. Himejoshis been swallowing yuri with different tags so long you won't ever number the times. I see the standpoint of both parties, maybe this is something they aren't used to. If I were the same from five years ago who never touched the yuri genre I would agree with the people who has a problem with age gap tags, but should I stand with them my comment and opinion will deem pointless. I do not stand with any sides, but came her to inform those who are new to yuri that this isn't something that should be taken down your throat. It was proven that mangas with foul contents and tags never caused harm to the society, I'm pretty sure if you go deep down more into yuri world soon enough this topic will get rid off and will be just another meme.


I hope you people have a great day, instead of being mean to each other and find yourself utterly proud of yourselves by accusing other people foul calls, this debate shall be close. I don't know how our translation got into this site.

Yes, I'm part of the scanlation team who translates mangas most of the time without commissions :) thank you for being ungrateful.

The problem isn't that it's Yuri or that there is an age gap, the issue is that the age gap is between someone that is extremely underage. Having a 30 year old and a 50 year old would be ok. Woman X woman is great too, it was what I was expecting when I clicked this manga but instead what I got to see what a child and an adult. Which sucks especially since there isn't enough Yuri out there.


I don't think that the following statement is true: "foul content and tags never caused harm to society" since it's still in debate within psychology. The only main conclusions so far are that
1) things are complex and there are many factors, some of which are biological
2) it influences people but it's not a cause and effect relationship, meaning that this won't make you into a pedophile just like playing video games won't make you into a killer or a school shooter.
3) that media does actually have an effect on us as people and can encourage us to take part in certain behaviours
There really aren't any studies that specifically research on manga, yuri, pedophilia etc. that I have heard of.

To me yuri, yaoi and other such things are actually extremely normal but this isn't the case in some places and I do think that should be changed but we as a society and as people have to draw a line somewhere.

Yeah, this whole post did get blown out of proportion, or wasn't meant to start a debate. It was just me clicking on a Yuri manga, being happy that I finally found a new Yuri manga since there isn't a lot of Yuri on here, realising that I have been mislead and just making a short comment complaining about the "child" thing.

Btw, you guys could try to set up some kind of a donation thing since translating takes a lot of work. Idk what stuff you have helped translate and I personally wouldn't support whoever translated the story above.

I'll take this whole statement as you being new to the yuri world. Hope you enjoy yuri as years pass and get hooked.

... I have been reading Yuri for years.