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yea, the only part of the story that felt icky

On God that part was disgusting

Better than being a pedo. Seriously, old guy having a crush on a middle school girl is so disgusting.

Wdym better TT
Him being a pedo + him being raped just shows that the author isn't all there
They didn't intend it as revenge on him, but if they did, it would be problematic on its own bc why? Wdym? You're enabling a rapist ? Bcs of pedophilia? Wtf?

Huh? I am not sure what you are getting at.. Perhaps, let me clarify.

Gravity wise, child rapist is definitely worse than adult rapist. Yes, at the same time, both are crimes. That's why I said pedo is worse. That old guy is imagining all sorts of things with the middle school girl. Also, one commenter said "being raped by the old guy is the ONLY THING bad in the story". I disagreed, because being a pedo is also a bad thing, worse even. Now, we got TWO BAD THINGS in the story.

Hope that clarifies.

I'll still have to disagree on the idea that the rape part has moral superiority to the pedophilia part

Because as a reader I dont expect good morality from people who aren't the main character- or at least it's easier to categorize them as villains once they betray whatever expectations I had, and that's that, on with the story

If my main character casually orchestrated a rape scene, and we surf over it like nothing weird happened, I believe it's normally more icky
Cause there was an expectation there, and it wasn't even addressed, named, nothing

It all seems like the story wasn't properly woven in that part
Like the author probably doesn't believe a man can be raped, and that's really the topic I want to address

that's remind me with the old pedo emperor from apothecary diaries that also got raped by his wife

I would say both are crimes, and hence both are definitely immoral. No moral superiority here, just my take that child rapist are worse than adult rapist, or in another words. I only wanted to point out that adult rape shouldn't be the only thing that gives reader the 'ick' regarding that old guy. The fact where that guy is a pedophile should also gives reader the ick, even worse ick, or pardon my language, ick-ier.

I understand your pov
You're very much weighing the two as acts,but im weighing the two like, how the author presented it

I guess, if we think of real life, it would the equivalent to hearing about a pedophile from the news vs hearing your mom is a rapist
The act of pedophilia is worst, but I think the factor of who it came from plays a role too

Or in this case, my mom is a rapist and my father is a pedophile. Ouff..

This is exactly it. Flirting with a child is wild. That’s why I really hope she doesn’t fall for anyone until she’s older or if she does, let it be someone like a demon king or something, not the kids! I’ve seen that kind of plot way too many times, and it’s just weird. Like, dude… you're in a kid’s body, but you have the mindset of a grown adult. That’s not cute it’s creepy. And wayyyyy to many ppl excuse it

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What does that mean ?

That I completely Agree (⌒▽⌒)

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Actually, in the novel, he doesn't believe her. He thinks there's a deeper reason that she's not telling. He starts pursuing her again (like when Kyle wanted to marry).
At the same time, Mathias blackmails Leyla to rape her. Kyle sees them and when confrontring Leyla, she tells Kyle that she loves Mathias and that's when Kyle stops pursuing Leyla and goes to university.

There author wants to "camuflage" the raping as "not knowing that it was love" saying that eventhough Leyla hated Mathias, Kyle felt that the way she said "I love him" was certain

Matthias didn't tape Leyla, he may have forced her to chose between her uncle going to jail or being his mistress, but ultimately she consented to being his mistress to protect her uncle. So even tho we hate his methods he never raped her, she consented to having sex with him even tho she was heartbroken doing it. But knowing what happened in the novel after Uncle found out, he told her that she should have chosen the latter option, he would have preferred to spend a few years in jail if it meant her not being his mistress.

Honey no
This is fiction, so I won't say "let's burn the book and the author"
But that IS rape

Rape means there was no consent

And to have consent :

the person needs to be aware of what she's consenting to (not comatose, not drunk, not too young to understand the act and the consequences, etc)
She needs to be able to take her consent back at any point in time, otherwise it becomes rape
And she needs to be free to make that decision
Otherwise, we would acquit anyone who robs people at gunpoint, because tho they were blackmailed, they readily "consented" and surrendered their possessions

(I said she, but it's not just women who go through that)

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I've never thought about the robbing example and I like it. I think I'm going to start using it.
Thanks for understanding

I get you. But I feel I all three were walls that he had to overcome. N if he doesn't kill Miss Mage, she'll probably be after his ass once he gets into the enemy city/camp. Plus I'm sure he just wants to grow stronger (^_^)

That's how he is, his obsession on conquering things that made him despair is what led him to this situation. Also, even if he didn't seek out that made, she will still be problematic. Who knows if they go through the tunnel, the mage might follow suit and they will still end up dead so it's much better to eliminate all possible dangers if he have a way and have a better advantage on knowing the near future, much better than getting nervous at what will comes next because you left a danger alone on it's own devices

Miss mage has a spell in the cave shed come at them if she finds anything sus

So a surprise attack would be more effective, plus fighting her in a narrow cave will be suicide