Honestly, the king's brother was raped
Huh? I am not sure what you are getting at.. Perhaps, let me clarify.
Gravity wise, child rapist is definitely worse than adult rapist. Yes, at the same time, both are crimes. That's why I said pedo is worse. That old guy is imagining all sorts of things with the middle school girl. Also, one commenter said "being raped by the old guy is the ONLY THING bad in the story". I disagreed, because being a pedo is also a bad thing, worse even. Now, we got TWO BAD THINGS in the story.
Hope that clarifies.
I'll still have to disagree on the idea that the rape part has moral superiority to the pedophilia part
Because as a reader I dont expect good morality from people who aren't the main character- or at least it's easier to categorize them as villains once they betray whatever expectations I had, and that's that, on with the story
If my main character casually orchestrated a rape scene, and we surf over it like nothing weird happened, I believe it's normally more icky
Cause there was an expectation there, and it wasn't even addressed, named, nothing
It all seems like the story wasn't properly woven in that part
Like the author probably doesn't believe a man can be raped, and that's really the topic I want to address
I would say both are crimes, and hence both are definitely immoral. No moral superiority here, just my take that child rapist are worse than adult rapist, or in another words. I only wanted to point out that adult rape shouldn't be the only thing that gives reader the 'ick' regarding that old guy. The fact where that guy is a pedophile should also gives reader the ick, even worse ick, or pardon my language, ick-ier.
I understand your pov
You're very much weighing the two as acts,but im weighing the two like, how the author presented it
I guess, if we think of real life, it would the equivalent to hearing about a pedophile from the news vs hearing your mom is a rapist
The act of pedophilia is worst, but I think the factor of who it came from plays a role too
I'm on Ch 22
The flirting is a bit much
That is a child ma'am
Idk I feel like plots where the child has a crush that persists and our main character only sees him as a man when he has become a man...are 5/10
But flirting like that is
This is exactly it. Flirting with a child is wild. That’s why I really hope she doesn’t fall for anyone until she’s older or if she does, let it be someone like a demon king or something, not the kids! I’ve seen that kind of plot way too many times, and it’s just weird. Like, dude… you're in a kid’s body, but you have the mindset of a grown adult. That’s not cute it’s creepy. And wayyyyy to many ppl excuse it
I think she's so ridiculous for expecting Kyle to believe that lie.
After all those years together, she still doesn't realize how much he knows her.
If he does believe it, it'll just be bad writing for real
Spoiler alert
Actually, in the novel, he doesn't believe her. He thinks there's a deeper reason that she's not telling. He starts pursuing her again (like when Kyle wanted to marry).
At the same time, Mathias blackmails Leyla to rape her. Kyle sees them and when confrontring Leyla, she tells Kyle that she loves Mathias and that's when Kyle stops pursuing Leyla and goes to university.
There author wants to "camuflage" the raping as "not knowing that it was love" saying that eventhough Leyla hated Mathias, Kyle felt that the way she said "I love him" was certain
Matthias didn't tape Leyla, he may have forced her to chose between her uncle going to jail or being his mistress, but ultimately she consented to being his mistress to protect her uncle. So even tho we hate his methods he never raped her, she consented to having sex with him even tho she was heartbroken doing it. But knowing what happened in the novel after Uncle found out, he told her that she should have chosen the latter option, he would have preferred to spend a few years in jail if it meant her not being his mistress.
Honey no
This is fiction, so I won't say "let's burn the book and the author"
But that IS rape
Rape means there was no consent
And to have consent :
the person needs to be aware of what she's consenting to (not comatose, not drunk, not too young to understand the act and the consequences, etc)
She needs to be able to take her consent back at any point in time, otherwise it becomes rape
And she needs to be free to make that decision
Otherwise, we would acquit anyone who robs people at gunpoint, because tho they were blackmailed, they readily "consented" and surrendered their possessions
(I said she, but it's not just women who go through that)









Even though it's this manhwa, apex of them all....
I have to hold it accountable
At first, I didn't even feel like reading the new chapter. The author fucked up introducing a tragic past this late, an old enemy, this late, just to show Encrid's growth. It's so difficult to take him seriously, talking about revenge, all solemn, when that revenge fell into his lap, and he didn't even think about it once all this time
That's because as he stated the revenge wasn't his goal, he actually didn't care for revenge
Yeah, agreed
If he didnt care the dream shouldn't have been a thing
Maybe it's to show us how far he came. Where a person he once considered a comrade would spare his life just because he was considered super weak. Besides, he did care for the other squad he had before, and maybe it's to just show us one of his traumas. I don't know if this makes sense
Like, i get it in theory, but I feel like the execution wasn't it
Yup as much as I adore this series I think it has a problem for introducing backstories, characters or mechanics right before they gonna be used, so setup sometimes feels kind of lackluster, like oh there's new character/ skill presented? It's definitely gonna be used in next chapter or two. I just hope in the future author will set things up earlier, so they can naturally fall into place ^^