for once im not suffering from second lead syndrome
Personal opinion speaking,they deserve each other
like damn. also his abandonment issues are fully being taken advantaged of
i want this to stay strictly outside of romance plssss
same- man- same-
Yeah. Romance doesn’t suit him
his character development is slow af
first of all this all started with them supposedly sleeping with each other. making her think they slept together while she was very very very drunk.
two, she tried to stop the situation from escalating but he kept threatening her, her family, etc if she were to refuse the marriage.power imbalance, shes the daughter of a count (?) and hes the sole duke.
since she cant refuse, it leads to all of her ploys to try to get him to cancel the marriage instead.
so hes literally OBSESSED with her and now is playing the victim. i really really hope he gets some character development cause this is some toxic abusive bs
He was the viticm at one point tho?
She lied to him about falling out a window and being badly injured. Anyone would feel betrayed by that.
His previous actions or dominant personality don't disqualify him for being a victim in certain scenarios.
Yes technically he is the victim in this scenario but she only did that to try and get away from him because he was toxic and threatening her. Yes they are both in the wrong but you have to understand he was manipulative and abused his power. And honestly he needs to have a character development soon and understand why she lied in the first place, maybe if he listened to her and not try to be so macho and controlling they could have worked it out.
He had no right to react so extremely to that underhanded approach because he, in the first place, wouldn't take no for an answer. Dominant personality? Are you kidding me? It was clear as day that the ml was cornering the fl, basically threatening to kill her every time. That's not a simple personality problem. He's a homicidal, entitled, petty drama queen of an ml. Excuse the fl for not wanting to marry him. The recent chapters prove she was not wrong for trying to escape him, only that she fell for him in the end and got caught.
dominant? umm the guy straight up threatened to kill her, sell her as a slave and fuck up her family, etc. bit more than dominant i think. her actions are more than reasonable to his abusive behaviour. the guy was trying to trap her in a marriage and after multiple attempts to get out of it, that whole faking injury was a last resort. if he had just respected her, none of this wouldve happened in the first place
My comment was in regards to OPs last sentence: "so hes literally OBSESSED with her and now is playing the victim.".
No matter his behavior, no matter his personality and schemes - He IS the victim here, not 'playing victim'.
There were still other ways for her to refuse the entire situation, if we go by realistic means that is (which was not in the author's interest for one and the female lead likely didn't think of it either since she was clearly interested in him from the start, she only refused him because she thought that was the role she needed to follow).
Like ik hes an asshole but i wanted to see if his family life got better, etc
Yah man. I feel sorry for him.
yawhi is a rapist dickhead, cain is fake and shady and tbh jooin is also a rapist bc he slept w someone who was drunk af
pls remind me how jooin is a rapist? when did he rape someone when they were drunk?
ch 20 look it up <3
I'm losing brain cells over this comment
i- i’m...nvm. like the other person said, your comment made me lose brain cells
why? jooin had sex with a drunk yahwi what’s so hard to understand lmao
that’s not rape babe
I'm begging you, I'm desperately begging you... Say syke right now.
=))) are you for real? how is having sex with intoxicated people okay? or no, it’s fine if you’re not on the receiving end and you initiated it? fucking weirdos
okay, explain it to me how it doesn’t count as rape when drunk people can’t consent.
So with your logic, imagine this: I'm getting sexually harassed on the train by a drunk dude, who apparently can't consent in harassing me. He's intoxicated and he initiated it. You would press charges against ME?
can you not read or...are you just dumb? yawhi Initiated it first and clearly wanted to do it
sum wrong with this person lol
fam, jooin was the one to initiate it as well, he was the one to feel yahwi up first and that doesn't justify him having sex with him because jooin was drunk
For real, though. I'm afraid this stupidity will rub off on me.
feel up on yawhi?? oh ma gawd, you must be blind also BYE
Same, we should leave before it does
No, just no! Yahwi ASKED him, do you want to have sex right now? Jooin said yes. It was consent from both parties. If Yahwi hadn't suggested it at all and Jooin would have forced himself on him, THAT'S rape.
so you're assuming that jooin couldn't say no when we know he has the strength to push yahwi to Alaska if he wants to? so somehow even in this scenario, yahwi was forcing jooin to have sex with him? is this what you're telling me? the same yahwi that had no problem with jooin not having sex with him after they went to the movies a few chs ago? the fuck? you are really twisting this when it's not necessary
my point was that jooin agreed to have sex with a drunk yahwi when he was completely sober which ain't right, we're talking about things within the story's context
...Drunk people can't consent. If I'm asking someone to have sex with me when I'm drunk, they should decline because I'm not sober. Y'all are not understanding this simple point which is really simple. Bye bye!
No, I was applying your logic to a different scenario. You said a drunk person can't consent to anything, even if they initiated it. But apparently now you're telling me that your logic doesn't apply to all scenarios.
Listen, I fear for my sanity if I continue this discussion any longer. All I can do is pray for the men you encounter in your daily life. I'll leave now.
you sounds so dumb honestly. BOTH PARTIES AGREED AND THERE WAS CONSENT. how is it wrong to have sex with someone drunk? yawhi didn’t even look drunk, he probably tipsy. yeah it would’ve been wrong if yawhi said no and jooin kept going but no. it’s rape when yawhi had sex with an actual drunk jooin who said no and still kept going so pls stfu
honestly, there’s no point with arguing with this person. just leave it. they clearly didn’t understand those chapters at all
Yeah, let's leave. I'm glad I found someone with some common sense, though. That's hard to find in the comment section nowadays.
Jooin initiated the sex during their first time. Does that mean Yahwi is not a rapist then, by your logic? Don't even bother to respond, you can't see what I'm trying to say anyway
Yahwi was not drunk? Look at his eyes lmfao he didn't look like that drunk when he was having sex with Jooin. You can't consent when you're drunk, so your point is nonexistent in this case.
jooin is not a rapist wtf sjsjskkdk are u ok
are you not embarazed.
yahwi wasnt drunk bro........... even if jooin was the one to feel yahwi up first he was clearly intoxicated in a way that yahwi wasnt...... yahwi could have stood up and leave, just like he did NEXT MORNING.
also the fact that jooin didnt remember anything the next day and yahwi did????????? what does that tell you???????
stop im getting secondhand embarrassment from your dumbness
i'm with u, bruh
this two are just prolly fans of yahwi that's why they keep on defending him
Why are you here... half a year later when this discussion had finally come to an end? XD
fr. those two are both stupid.