Lavender February 22, 2024 7:04 am

loll all these men are shocked the saintess ran away like they weren't quick to frame the duke's daughter and try and kill her off because they found her a 'hindrance.' How are you going to be surprised she ran when you guys don't value women's lives??? (I'm sure it's some other reason but like why would she want to stay with these people if she had a choice?)

Lavender February 22, 2024 6:53 am

SAY IT! JUST SAY IT

Lavender February 22, 2024 6:47 am

So just a heads up. If you have a boss or a partner who acts like the top and purposely pushes/violates your boundaries, you need to leave the situation. This is so messed up, and honestly, I would have reported that guy multiple times to HR because what the serious hell

    StaleStaz February 22, 2024 11:57 am

    It’s much more normal in countries like these. Work/life being separate is a more western concept. In a lot of Asian countries your work friends are you outside friends and at work you’re like one big family in a way

Lavender February 22, 2024 5:07 am

Nah, the author had to have such a good dialogue on sex and child exploitation in the industry and then end the chapter with a child star doing a nude scene (which is child exploitation, especially pairing it with the sentence 'it's important to emphasize that you can do anything for the sake of acting') and incest?? like wtf

This is why I'm constantly, questioning what the author is trying to say.

    SofiaOtto February 22, 2024 9:50 am

    I think that exactly the point. Things have gotten better in the industry, there are still dark spots. A talented teenager actress still feels 'it's important to emphasize that you can do anything for the sake of acting'. That is still a not go situation and mindset.

    Society had this image of the perfect fragil victim. The black haired girls those not fit that image, so other characters/people would look at her as empowered and hard working, instead of as a victim of a abusive industry.

    Lavender February 22, 2024 10:35 am
    I think that exactly the point. Things have gotten better in the industry, there are still dark spots. A talented teenager actress still feels 'it's important to emphasize that you can do anything for the sake ... SofiaOtto

    See that would have been fine if it was a grown adult, not a child.

    The device/type of comedy they used wasn't effective. Had it been dark humour, it would have brought light to a problematic topic (and stayed a serious/dark tone), however using shock comedy (the 'ah a slut' cut scene) was done with the intention to lighten a heavy topic and transition to the next scene, therefore changing the tone at that moment. The tone is important because it's used to properly convey the intended emotions and morals of the story (think eerie music vs laugh track). Shifting the scene to a light-hearted atmosphere and 'empowering moment,' changes in intentions behind the scene and the meaning of the dialogue.

    If you want a good example of a proper humour device used in this scene, look at when Akane uses deadpan humour to call out Himekawa for taking part in the system that he was verbally criticizing. Thus it's funny because he is being hypocritical. But we also get the additional nuance of the fact that though many men will criticize the flawed system (with some of them even knowing people who have been directly hurt by it- EX: Himekawa with his parents), a significant portion of them will then still participate and play into that flawed system because it doesn't directly affect them).

    Furthermore, making a slut joke (directed towards a child) AND claiming that a nude sex scene is empowering, because the 'child chose it' is EXTREMELY problematic. (this is literally how Hollywood started publically exploiting children and made it palatable to audiences-> I highly suggest looking into Brooke Shields and her story. The movie Pretty Baby is a PERFECT example of this.) In this situation, and in any situation where children have to be mindful of adults or superiors around them (as well as anyone who holds a position of power over them) it is NOT ok, to claim that a child taking part in a sexual/exploitative act is empowering because that isn't a choice made by the child, that is the result of forced expectations placed on a child. Children can't consent.

    Lavender February 22, 2024 10:43 am
    See that would have been fine if it was a grown adult, not a child. The device/type of comedy they used wasn't effective. Had it been dark humour, it would have brought light to a problematic topic (and stayed ... Lavender

    Though I get they may have been trying to infer how unfortunately things haven't changed. They should not have done it over a girl bonding moment. That was completely inappropriate. But then again the author's long-running gag is incest, which is also tied to the super problematic power dynamics of not only patient/doctor but also child/adult. So idk why I'm surprised when they slip in a bunch of problematic shit. (Like Himekawa claiming that men are 'taught from a young age that we're scum and losers" which is completely inaccurate and super problematic and incel-y)

    rotten February 22, 2024 11:14 am

    Honestly, completely agreed with your points. I was about to comment the same thing. And the incest stuff is getting more unbearable with each passing and it's just not funny.

Lavender February 22, 2024 4:47 am

Man, I find the brother incredibly irritating. I understand he's meant to embody the archetype of the 'loyal defender who lacks discernment', standing by his loved ones regardless of their faults (my love, could do no wrong type). But I can't stand characters like them. I can just tell no one has told them to shut up before.

Also not cool Ophelia. If you are doing this, as a form of atonement, how are you going to let that man (or the people around you) have that problematic mindset and not call him out?

"Alicia Melfont. That name summarizes the last 10 years of Ophelia's life... of her suffering." Like are you for real?? Alicia had her entire family slaughtered in front of her, died herself, and had to rebuild her family from the ground up while enduring ridicule from everyone around her (yourself included), all because Ophelia had saviour syndrome (and still does) and didn't listen when Alicia warned her about the creepy man. AND SHE'S THE PROBLEM?!

Honestly, I was defending Ophelia until this chapter but the fact that she words; cleaning up her OWN MESS, as some great feat to atone to Alicia is some narcissistic BS. Also, no one asked you to atone??? She told you to leave her alone and YOU decided to obsess over her for the next 10 years. Furthermore, going around wording it that way, sets Alicia up to be criticized by anyone who doesn't already previously know her. Like how are you centring yourself in this situation as a saviour/hero/victim and taking ZERO accountability for your part in the matter? While also pushing the real victim into the role of aggressor/instigator?

Man, Ophelia.... my dude... I was on your SIDE and then you had to go around talking like that.

    AA hon February 22, 2024 11:32 am

    Fr this why i hate her

    ren February 22, 2024 12:36 pm

    Bruh ilu i love your rant┗( T﹏T )┛. I find Ophelia & the brother soo annoying too

    vasya February 22, 2024 6:52 pm

    Ikr

    Mavikelebek February 23, 2024 8:41 pm

    Exactly. She is like i did kill your family, betray all of you, leave you alone and misrable, caused so much events that almost ender your life but i planted these flowers for you..

Lavender February 21, 2024 8:27 am

LMAO Rion has the same character background as Elsa
Conceal, don't feel. LET IT GO~ LET IT GO~

Lavender February 22, 2024 1:08 am

Honestly, the funniest thing about all this drama is there is NO future in this relationship. If Dan gets with Jaekjung, then what? No seriously, then what?

I'm going to crunch some numbers real quick:
Jaekyung is 26 yrs old.
If he continues to have a good career he will retire around mid to late 30s (avg age for boxers is 35 because after that they physically break down).
If he blows out his shoulder it will be way before that.
So that means at most Dan is expecting 10-15 years more of this crazy-ass, violent behaviour (as well as messed up power dynamics).

But I'm not done. CTE kicks in the early 40s if you are lucky, early to mid-30s if you aren't lucky and could even present prior. This means even AFTER this guy retires he's still going to be beating the crap out of Dan and most likely going to become less coherent and more violent (essentially he's going to become a violent dementia patient). Finally, CTE takes years off of your life expectancy so Jaekjung will probs die around 60-65 yrs of age (if he doesn't succumb to suicidal thoughts (symptom of CTE) or if someone else doesn't take him out first)

So like why are we staying? There's nothing to look forward to. And they are in Korea so it's not like he can marry him for his money. It's funny in the way that Dan is going through all of these trials and tribulations for literally nothing. Like girl, it's a lose-lose situation

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 8:28 am

    Dang not the intellectual play by play! But yea, I get what you’re saying. It’s kinda hard to imagine them together at this point in the story, but even in the end, I still can’t see them together without getting the uncanny valley shivers.

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 8:29 am
    Dang not the intellectual play by play! But yea, I get what you’re saying. It’s kinda hard to imagine them together at this point in the story, but even in the end, I still can’t see them together without... GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

    Maybe it’s not the type of story where the author wants them to be a thing in the end, or maybe kill one of them when they just start being happy, idk and idc, fr.

    Sumer February 21, 2024 1:58 pm

    What's CTE btw? And I assume. Like, assume. Jk's violent behaviour will stop when...if. he gets together with Dan.
    Damn, even typing this I can't believe how unlikely and unreal it sounds.

    Elaine February 21, 2024 2:59 pm

    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change of heart and they understand eachother then seme is the sweetest man to even exist.

    Sumer February 21, 2024 3:31 pm
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    Bro atleast Alex was somewhat decent. He knew how to act normal...plus that story's development was faster. This is just trudging along somewhat

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 4:06 pm
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    I can’t help but feel this is different this time tho.

    vincent3003 February 21, 2024 4:59 pm
    What's CTE btw? And I assume. Like, assume. Jk's violent behaviour will stop when...if. he gets together with Dan.Damn, even typing this I can't believe how unlikely and unreal it sounds. Sumer

    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and eventually killed his peer and himself later on. I cannot think of an ending where Jaekyung does not develop CTE and end up hurting Dan bc ain’t no way

    Sumer February 21, 2024 6:06 pm
    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and event... vincent3003

    H-holy- shit... You're factually correct. But this is fiction in the end so it's genuinely unpredictable

    Mikaelà February 21, 2024 8:17 pm

    Looking at Jaekyung's attitude towards injuries, he'll definitely retire early like that. I seriously can't understand how people are expecting for this relationship to work out. This had potential to be a psychological Manwha and show the consequences of CTE, instead of a ''romance''. What a bummer.

    Elaine February 21, 2024 8:44 pm
    I can’t help but feel this is different this time tho. GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

    I can't help but feel it'll be the same it's very much like every other yaoi it's only enjoyable cause the author knows how to blue ball us into reading the next chap

    Lavender February 22, 2024 12:58 am
    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and event... vincent3003

    FR. CTE is so scary. I've taken several classes on it and written a few papers about it and shit is crazy. The best-case scenario I've seen was with this guy who worked at my university as a sports coordinator (he was briefly an enforcer in the NHL). AND HE LITERALLY CAN'T COUNT ANYMORE. He lost the ability to count. Moreover, his baby hit him in the head and because he was so messed up, it knocked him out and severely concussed him. As a result of this incident, his doctor warned him that if it happened again, he could die. The only way this is going to end 'happily' is if Jaekyung turns into a vegetable and Dan gets it take care of him for the rest of his short-lived life

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:03 am
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    I feel like Alex didn't actively manipulate the uke though. Like yes he was a jackass, but he was straightforward with what he wanted and didn't hold a position of power over the uke. Meanwhile, Jaekjung may be open about being a d*ck but he holds both financial and positional powers over Dan and actively exploits him because of it.

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:10 am

    ahhh I edited a typo and I didn't realize that it deletes the replies. I'm sorry to everyone who replied in the comments

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:16 am
    ahhh I edited a typo and I didn't realize that it deletes the replies. I'm sorry to everyone who replied in the comments Lavender

    Wait it's back, we're good. Idk why but this website always glitches on me

    Elaine February 22, 2024 1:25 pm
    I feel like Alex didn't actively manipulate the uke though. Like yes he was a jackass, but he was straightforward with what he wanted and didn't hold a position of power over the uke. Meanwhile, Jaekjung may be... Lavender

    Yeah but to me it only feels like the author is taking it a step further to make it more interesting. I don't expect it to end any differently. They're gonna be lovey dovey soon. The author hinted it at before, I don't remember exactly what it was but in one of those "Q&A" chapters someone asked when they'll get to be happy and the author said it's gonna take long, therefore implying that it will end the same way .

    toesforhoes February 22, 2024 5:48 pm

    honestly we all know it gonna end like bj alex but i feel like jae is so far gone… like i can’t even imagining him missing dan when he inevitably fires him or dan leaves. the only thing i could see jae missing is the sex…..

Lavender February 18, 2024 12:38 am

Okay, I understand that her family felt uncomfortable/hostile towards her because their souls were switched, but do they feel any shame?

They straight up neglected Camilla and let her be bullied, isolated and made into a joke by society as well as always assumed the worst of her (and then later found out they were completely wrong).

If you realized your perception of her was wrong, and you changed your behaviour toward her as a result, how can you avoid feeling guilty about the way you treated her in the past? How can they act so shamelessly and expect gifts from her without even properly apologizing to her for everything they put her through?

    Hooble February 18, 2024 2:31 am

    Right???? Like I like this reasoning for switching up their feelings but sheesh I need some groveling on their ends
    Like its not like they know about the soul switching even so they have no reason to not be apologizing

    Lavender February 18, 2024 3:20 am
    Right???? Like I like this reasoning for switching up their feelings but sheesh I need some groveling on their ends Like its not like they know about the soul switching even so they have no reason to not be apo... Hooble

    Exactly. Where's my grovelling?

    JayJay (I'm back!) February 18, 2024 11:54 pm

    I would've liked a real apology too... I guess at least she can breathe easy now ever since the duke did a thorough "cleaning" of the household servants conspiring to frame her inside the house (after the theft of her mom's ring came to light), and the stepbro punished those boys harassing her and the Original blondie FL at school, for her, both things sending a message that they're not gonna ignore random people mistreating her, anymore.

    But yeah, it'd have been nice if they'd been more vocal.

Lavender February 17, 2024 6:34 am

So is the old guy his grandfather or his dad's business partner?

    wonders February 21, 2024 7:05 pm

    I believes he's the uncle

Lavender February 15, 2024 7:50 am

When are we going to get Eve-elution? I want grown eve

    Caballero February 15, 2024 8:17 am

    the eevee evolution, if you will

    ilay’s pink tip lickerღ February 15, 2024 4:34 pm

    Sameee I want Zaddy Eve.

    Jennifujoshi private eye February 25, 2024 3:03 pm

    idunno, that face makes me wonder if eve and gozu might fuse together, or the real demon king is actually their son. the latter would be bad since gozu said eve's kid's moms explode :(

    Yuhi_sama March 1, 2024 2:43 am

    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T

    Lavender March 1, 2024 7:18 am
    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T Yuhi_sama

    Jennifujoshi private eye March 15, 2024 5:08 am
    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T Yuhi_sama

    at least theres still beefy bottoms. the author probably thinks its kinky to be feminized by somebody who looks more feminine

    Yuhi_sama March 15, 2024 5:42 am
    at least theres still beefy bottoms. the author probably thinks its kinky to be feminized by somebody who looks more feminine Jennifujoshi private eye

    İ get the author, that's pretty hot

    Jennifujoshi private eye March 15, 2024 7:20 am
    İ get the author, that's pretty hot Yuhi_sama

    yeah ^^ <3

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