diddl August 16, 2020 1:34 pm

I think that was a very wholesome story. Ngl though I kinda want to see a chapter with them hanging out as a couple with the grandma, I think that would be so cute

diddl August 15, 2020 9:25 am

Ah I’m so happy for and proud of huanwen. I think he cried because it’s the first time ever that he loudly and by himself said that he’s gay. It lifted a huge weight from his shoulders I could imagine.
I just don’t want anything tragic to happen, I’m really not ready for things like that. As for their relationship I’m staying patient and hope there will be clarification in the more near future for those two.

diddl August 7, 2020 11:15 am

DIDNT I SAY IT! I knew grandpa was the best! I knew his only wish is for huanwen to be happy! He says he’s old and can’t catch up with modern times and the era but then he proceeds to say “For you to have a family you don’t need to have a wife”. This man is much more modern and tolerant than a majority of ppl his age or even younger! I had faith in him and I’m so happy that he turned out to be just the grandpa we all wanted him to be! I’m happy for huanwen

diddl August 6, 2020 9:21 am

I’m definitely looking forward as to how this will play out. I don’t think hating the seme is justified without even having read the whole story that’s why pls ppl give him a chance. I also don’t know how it will play out. But yes I agree with everyone saying that he can’t be double standardy about this. With firstly being annoyed (probably bc he’s jealous) and then wanting a dance himself. My guess is that this has something to do with the talk he had with the boss. And I also agree with everyone saying that he doesn’t get to have a say in this job. He’s not even the boyfriend at this point. Even if he will be his boyfriend, I still want the uke to continue there. The atmosphere and the colleagues were like a family and I don’t want the seme to ruin that. So I hope in that aspect he will continue working there in some kind of way and that the seme will come to understand more about his situation as well

diddl August 1, 2020 10:11 am

Okay one thing for sure: the grandpa thinks they’re in a relationship. Which is totally wrong but I hope it gets him thinking about the situation because since huan wen is gay indeed and it could have been potentially true
Oh wait correction he literally saw his grandson at night so he knows for sure that huan wen has feelings for him, if he thinks he’s in they’re in a relationship? Probably not if he interpreted the situation at night the right way

    Jdjdjxjdj August 1, 2020 10:40 am

    With any luck they'll be in a relationship soon enough so it'd be best to get gramps support now!!

diddl July 25, 2020 10:48 am

Even though I don’t really agree with the grandpa, I definitely understand his worries. I think even though he is a bit meddlesome, it’s not okay to insult him because it’s normal for parents to worry about their children. Especially him that is old and doesn’t know how long he’ll be there for huanwen. He has a point of people regretting if they end up alone and have no one that is there for them, cares for them and them to care for (I mean he’s alone too he knows what he’s talking about) and as sad as this is, friendships often don’t last or are not the same anymore when everyone follows through their paths and develop their own life. That being said, since he’s someone from another generation, his first thought is to think of marriage and children. I disagree with that. You can be happy and not alone, but don’t need to be married for that. Being in a partnership, in a relationship, maybe having a platonic but true life partner etc etc. There are many possibilities. Plus marriage isn’t always the happy life long relationship with a person. Often times couples divorce so...
But I still do understand the grandpa and tbh I think his main problem is that huanwen is alone and doesn’t have someone that is there for him in rough times and cause his first thought jumps to marriage and his beliefs of marriage are solid (maybe he himself just experienced a happy marriage and the ones he knows did too), he wanted that for huanwen. But grandpa doesn’t strike me as a person that would deny any other form of relationship for huanwen. as long as he is with someone he truly loves and the grandpa can entrust his grandson to this person because he believes that huanwen will not be alone and will be loved, i think the grandpa will accept it. I just refuse to believe that grandpa is that narrow minded, so I’m curious to see how he’ll react to what yuan said, cause this was almost a freaking confession

diddl July 24, 2020 9:33 pm

I’d much rather see the other dudes story.

diddl July 22, 2020 10:47 pm

I’m trying so hard to stay calm. I could actually throw my phone against the wall right now. I don’t like that friend so much either, he looks good but his personality probably isn’t that good either but honestly I’d take him if that means leaving this god damn fucked asshole of a seme. They even just had fun with a day in the aquarium, we didn’t see that with the seme and the uke. No we see that the fucking seme is a piece of shit, that manipulates, uses, mistreats, neglects but at the same time stalks the uke. Treating him like a possession, while not making their relationship clear, posting pics of himself with the intention to possibly get some and idk if I recall it correctly but didn’t he also have some side baes. Honestly this character makes my blood boil. And I was so happy when they said that they’ll make him pay. And then this failure of a Chapter comes along. WTF. How did he pay? What changed about his behavior? What did the uke achieve? The uke is also a walking stupid ass with no thinking. How can he not slap away his hands and stand up for himself? Why is he so easy and quick to forgive? This situation didn’t solve anything. Yeah now he knows that the seme „cares“ (more like he was pissed that he couldn’t stalk with his illegally downloaded app). But he knew about the possessive thinking before. So what was made clear ? Nothing !
At the same time I’m thinking that i have to be stupid too for still reading it, even though I know in my heart that the seme won’t change and that the uke won’t end up with someone else and those are the only endings that I can accept .
Yeah now the next chapter will be some kind of half assed assurance and then „punishment“ sex. #-.-) I should stop reading this manga
I think what makes me sad the most, is that this manga could have beeen so good and the seme too but then this potential was destroyed by this most definitely irredeemable seme

    Ice girl July 22, 2020 10:50 pm

    I know. I didn't expect this either. Such disappointment ( ̄へ ̄)
    But if you wanna see a seme changing for better read this (=・ω・=)
    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawareru/

    aziraphalebb July 22, 2020 10:51 pm

    I agree I'm especially disappointed because Nekota Yonezou is one of my favourite mangaka. They're usually good at creating interesting dynamics between characters but this work here is just a mess with no logic at all. Also their other mangas do have clichés in them but it's never that bad... In Hidoku Shinaide the relationship was very toxic at first but they corrected their own work by acknowledging how flawed the relationship initially was and making it progress into something much more healthy. Here it's just toxic from beginning to end. There is no progression and it's too frustrating. I enjoyed the art as usual but yeah overall I'm super disappointed.

    watashiannadesu July 22, 2020 10:58 pm
    I know. I didn't expect this either. Such disappointment ( ̄へ ̄)But if you wanna see a seme changing for better read this (=・ω・=)http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawa... Ice girl

    Oh my god that manga! I was rolling all over my bed when the seme was begging for forgiveness HAHAHA I loved it! Would've preferred the seme to suffer a teeny tiny bit more but oh well. The uke got his revenge ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    diddl July 22, 2020 11:01 pm
    I agree I'm especially disappointed because Nekota Yonezou is one of my favourite mangaka. They're usually good at creating interesting dynamics between characters but this work here is just a mess with no logi... aziraphalebb

    I 100% agree with you! I started reading it because I like the mangaka, the art and it seemed like enemies to lovers which is my favorite trope but this is unbalanced, this is not healthy and if this dynamic doesn’t change I can’t support this couple. It’s just disappointing bc there are not so many stories where the seme has this queen vibe and that’s why I was excited in the first place... but to waste this potential for a seme that’s literally just bad and doesn’t have any kind of development, like we either see him mad or horny, or mischievous but never sad, worried or in love, or actually doubting. He’s so sure about himself but that’s also partly the ukes fault for always reassuring him, instead of making him sit back and think about his behavior...sad :(

    diddl July 22, 2020 11:02 pm
    I know. I didn't expect this either. Such disappointment ( ̄へ ̄)But if you wanna see a seme changing for better read this (=・ω・=)http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawa... Ice girl

    Ahh omg I know that one!! That one was soo good, especially well done with the change! You read my mind, I was actually thinking of this manga when I said i was happy that they’ll make him pay ;)

    Jayjay July 23, 2020 12:06 am
    I know. I didn't expect this either. Such disappointment ( ̄へ ̄)But if you wanna see a seme changing for better read this (=・ω・=)http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawa... Ice girl

    Oh, I remember that one. I liked that he "repented" but... at the same time, it still struck me as a lil' weird? Like he went too quickly from using the uke as a plaything to being unable to go on without him? IIRC, at the time I thought t was a lil' too drastic and fast, and the seme's change of heart could have taken more chapters in order to seem more gradual and not to give readers a whiplash... But don't take me too seriously on this, I don't remember it all that well).

    Jayjay July 23, 2020 12:18 am

    I seriously think the real, underhanded point of the chapter was not to give the seme his "comeuppance", but rather to lay the foundations for future plot twists featuring this Hinata guy (plot twists which may give the seme a *real* comeuppance, rather than this one...) and this chapter was mostly just to prime readers for those plot twists, by making them lowkey more curious about this one character (and about why the seme seems to fear *him* more than anybody..). If that's true, the whole "vengeance" thing was just an excuse for the author to set this whole other "Hinata" thing in motion, and we'll rather get to see Hacchi having a real hard time in future chapters.

    diddl July 23, 2020 9:37 am
    I seriously think the real, underhanded point of the chapter was not to give the seme his "comeuppance", but rather to lay the foundations for future plot twists featuring this Hinata guy (plot twists which may... Jayjay

    I kinda agree and I think you’re right but at the same time I can’t help but think, why need a third character butting in just so that the seme has it a bit more difficult. As if his behavior wasn’t enough for a normal thinking person in the ukes place to say:„ stop not like this my dude“ and then staying away from hachhi to let it sink in. honestly I’m just on board if hinata gets his own little side story lol. Cause introducing him to make him the cock block that makes the seme suffer, instead of the uke standing up for himself doesn’t sit well with me in this manga. :)

diddl July 19, 2020 2:18 pm

for everyone (and me included) still being confused and stuff, just wait and be patient. this mangaka really does write and make good stories. they are very emotional and also realistic I feel like. I also deeply believe that we will come to understand more and more about all the characters. I get that ppl don’t like Akira sleeping with someone else. But he’s not yet together or anything with the mc. he’s still very confused and scared. I guess he has also problems with taking a step forward into being open and really considering a serious relationship since he had these negative experiences before. They are teenagers, they have a lot to learn about themselves and I think that’s why those two don’t behave as clear cut as we would like them to behave. We have to have patience. So slutshaming someone isn’t the right way. Especially if he didn’t deserve to be called a slut. And Akira doesn’t deserve to be called a slut. The whole minor/adult relationship is obviously not good. I don’t think big bro’s friend groomed him but still this relationship shouldn’t be happening and doesn’t sit well with me, even though it is consensual, at least now, it’s not okay. Even if age wasn’t a problem Idk like them having this arrangement cause he loves the big bro and Akira is just scared. Even though I feel with the guy it’s still not okay to resort to this ,esp if he’s not an adult yet. But since the mangaka Handled problems pretty well in other mangas, I believe that they will do it again. It’s not as they condone or glamorize the relationship between Akira and hikarus friend. Bc we clearly can feel that this is shown as something wrong and not good. I’m very much looking forward to how this story will continue

diddl July 19, 2020 1:56 pm

It’s so ridiculous how ppl call Akira slutty ? Idk if you don’t know what slutty ppl are like but clearly you are wrong in calling him a slut. He’s not cheating and he’s not lying. And since he’s not doing that he’s not a slut.

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