fucking hate it when I'm reading great BL with potential relationship development that is very interesting or realistic but someone comes and asks "so when y'all gonna fuck?" This is like so shitty. Fr making us BL readers look like we're fetishizing when we've spent so much time trying to prove that we just enjoy this genre .-.
you should read our convo below. They fr just- oh lord tried to correct a jap person on jap terms and excuse fetishizing by being gay so its okay and still got called out by three people with evidence and refuses to admit they are wrong :? smh weirdo
according to the dictionary: make (something) the object of a sexual fetish. have an excessive and irrational commitment to or obsession with (something). fetish definition, by itself: a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc. these are the only definitions. anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is uneducated.
things that are genuinely harmful to mlm: claiming only mlm may enjoy mlm media, claiming trans men are not real men and therefore cannot enjoy mlm media, stereotyping real-life mlm
DON'T:
police how others enjoy mlm media, talk over mlm when they tell you bl is harmless and anyone can enjoy mlm smut
Then is shoujo a fetishization of hetero relationships? Both are unrealistic and if someone actually believes gay relationships are really like that then they shouldn't be on this site.
Then is shoujo a fetishization of hetero relationships? Both are unrealistic and if someone actually believes gay relationships are really like that then they shouldn't be on this site. DemFeels
exactly bruh like is reading action fetishizing action????
you should read our convo below. They fr just- oh lord tried to correct a jap person on jap terms and excuse fetishizing by being gay so its okay and still got called out by three people with evidence and refus... spoopy chrollo sugartits
Reminder that the person I'm mentioning also said manhwas were exactly the same as 'yaoi' (it's BL fuckwad)
you should read our convo below. They fr just- oh lord tried to correct a jap person on jap terms and excuse fetishizing by being gay so its okay and still got called out by three people with evidence and refus... spoopy chrollo sugartits
I saw the whole clowning session lol. Btw ik you're japanese yourself and I'm on your side but maybe you should use jpn as an abbreviation instead since "jap" has somewhat become an ethnic slur due to its use in western media in the last century. I really am not trying to police you so I'm sorry if i come across as nosy
Then is shoujo a fetishization of hetero relationships? Both are unrealistic and if someone actually believes gay relationships are really like that then they shouldn't be on this site. DemFeels
ABSOLUTELY. READING PORN IS FETISHISING RELATIONSHIPS REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Be they straight, gay or lesbian- still fetishising.
I saw the whole clowning session lol. Btw ik you're japanese yourself and I'm on your side but maybe you should use jpn as an abbreviation instead since "jap" has somewhat become an ethnic slur due to its use i... saru
nah it's gucci I appreciate your the way you put your comment in a polite manner and it puts a smile on my face. I'm actually Malay too but I've been on and off in Shibuya but this whole covid thingy got me stuck here. I'm supposed to be all the way in Singapore. Also for that dumb clown SIAL PUKIMAK KAU MAMPOS or shinjimae :)
ABSOLUTELY. READING PORN IS FETISHISING RELATIONSHIPS REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Be they straight, gay or lesbian- still fetishising. ♥~homo coitus~♥
ABSOLUTELY. READING PORN IS FETISHISING RELATIONSHIPS REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Be they straight, gay or lesbian- still fetishising. ♥~homo coitus~♥
I'm done honestly an hour of discourse, several people calling you out with adequate simplified evidence meant not to humiliate you but to correct you (but let's be real we dropped the kind ethics long ago now it's just shut your pea brain up baka) and you still calling BL, Shoujo, Yuri fetishizing. IT IS NOT FETISHIZING UNLESS THE READER MAKES IT FETISHIZING. ANY MOVIE THAT HAS SEX SCENES LIKE AFTER OR THE KISSING BOOTH IS CENSORED OR HAS SUGGESTIVE CONTENT BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT PORN. IT IS UP TO THE WATCHER/READER ON ITS INTEPRETATION AND THIS BL AIN'T IT BOYOOOO.
nah it's gucci I appreciate your the way you put your comment in a polite manner and it puts a smile on my face. I'm actually Malay too but I've been on and off in Shibuya but this whole covid thingy got me stu... spoopy chrollo sugartits
Thanks for understanding. Also :// I'm so done with covid too
I'm done honestly an hour of discourse, several people calling you out with adequate simplified evidence meant not to humiliate you but to correct you (but let's be real we dropped the kind ethics long ago now ... spoopy chrollo sugartits
Embarassing not a malaysian thinking she japanese to justify using japanese terms in western society LMAOOOOO go to school gurl
Embarassing not a malaysian thinking she japanese to justify using japanese terms in western society LMAOOOOO go to school gurl ♥~homo coitus~♥
I'm mixed race fucker. Malays are spread out in the malayan archipelago from indonesia to singapore weirdo. Fucking xenophobic. You ain't even Japanese. You all cap and bullshit pretending to be Japanese just so you can try to slide your way out of this.
Not them pretending to be Japanese, misgendering me thinking she/her is the default, xenophobic, idiot that thinks Malay people are form Malaysia(they originated from Indonesia, there a different types of Malays like Boyanese and Javanese), correcting a Japanese person living in Japan practically surrounded with the word BL while saying they're a jap person living in the uk so they're trying to correct me on the westerners pov when they literally like minute ago tried to say nO yAoi is gAy sEx oNly fEtishIZe BrR and several foreigners telling that person it ain't it :/
I'm mixed race fucker. Malays are spread out in the malayan archipelago from indonesia to singapore weirdo. Fucking xenophobic. You ain't even Japanese. You all cap and bullshit pretending to be Japanese just s... spoopy chrollo sugartits
they said this...
"omggg EMBARASSSINGGGGG you don't even know the genres Yaoi = gay romance + gay sex Shounen-ai = gay romance + no sex Shota = boy kid + pedo stuff Girl go learn the genres a bit more instead of embarassing yourself here tryna correct their definition Awwwww someone a wittle angwyyy If you mad just leave lmao no one stopping you"
and now they're saying they're a jp person living in the UK so they're trying to correct me on the western pov despite several westerners saying no hunny it is not it. Them misgendering me, thinking all malay people are from Malaysia ( they originated from Indonesia before Malays started to separate into different dialects and beliefs like Boyanese and Javanese) despite me saying I'm Jp living in Shibuya and having a Malay family in Singapore like stfu. Not them calling me the colonizer when they CLAIM to be jp. I'm part colonizer bitcheth but you don't see me calling Family Guy porn and hey let's make it fap material aye.
they said this..."omggg EMBARASSSINGGGGG you don't even know the genres Yaoi = gay romance + gay sexShounen-ai = gay romance + no sexShota = boy kid + pedo stuffGirl go learn the genres a bit more instead of em... spoopy chrollo sugartits
Youre right but you got one thing wrong. Shounen Ai is actually a romance that works with age play/rlly big age gaps. So like minors and adults.
Youre right but you got one thing wrong. Shounen Ai is actually a romance that works with age play/rlly big age gaps. So like minors and adults. Yessie
I'm mixed race fucker. Malays are spread out in the malayan archipelago from indonesia to singapore weirdo. Fucking xenophobic. You ain't even Japanese. You all cap and bullshit pretending to be Japanese just s... spoopy chrollo sugartits
They didn’t even bring up that ‘fact’ until I said that I was Japanese and they didn’t even said they were gay until another person said that they were gay when I said that idiot was fetishizing.
Chain of even summarized from the deleted topic:
-when is the sex -three people saying no honey it ain't it just enjoy the plot -them saying reading BL/GL/shounen is fetishizing -refuses to read documented evidence -me saying they're fetishizing mlm -them saying no I'm not I'm mlm too -an mlm calling them out -them saying I don't know what 'yaoi' 'shounen ai' means despite me writing three paragraphs of eveidence with the correct definition and explanation along with some Jp translation and repeatedly asking them to stop correcting me because I am japanese and I live in Shibuya with my aunt and she's a fucking BL artist -them also loosely using p*dophilia when trying to explain something that nothing to do with the previous convo -me trying to explain sex will def happen later in the story but respect the author and their plot -them talking about r*pe and how all BL is the same and they're all for them to fap with -them again using r*pe topics with tw and not realizing I am a victim of sexual harrasment and p*dophilia and so could others -me giving more evidence and cussing very VERY BAD PROFANITIES that could get me into serious trouble if that person was Jp but obv they're cap and they didn't budge -Them suddenly claiming to be jp but they're living in the uk yet still had to google what shounen ai really means despite them CONFIDENTLY claiming the 'correct' definitions awhile ago -Me agreeing with a fellow moot and saying I'm mixed and I'm Malay too but I'm supposed to be in Singapore( small talk hehe) -Them saying "Embarassing not a malaysian thinking she japanese to justify using japanese terms in western society LMAOOOOO go to school gurlll" -me confused because I literally spoke to them in Japanese, said I was Jp and lived in Shibuya since I was three SEVERAL TIMES -Them calling me a colonizer despite them claiming to be Jp -Me saying they're dumb if they think all Malays are from Malaysia because they originated from Indonesia before splitting into different dialects and cultural context like Javanese and Boyanese which shows how dumb they are when they brought up wikipedia info bout Jp colonization previously and had the audacity to ask me to learn history. I STUDIED HISTORY FOR SIX YEARS FUCKWAD AND THEY GOT THEIR INFO OFF WIKEPEDIA JESUS
done. They've been RATIOTED AND NOW I HAVE NEW FRIENDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY STRANGERS HELPING ME.
It's the racism, carelessness, ignorance, perversion, idiocy, ego for me
Same feeling here. It is shitty to reduce a good story plot or development just down to sex.
Yaoi doesn't mean smut all the time. It just means imo a visible physical interaction. Not like fucking all the time and i'm annoyed of readers if they comment so.
I agree. Those kinds of comments are very annoying, especially when it comes to stuff like sharpe and rabbit, where the slow burn is what makes it so exciting. On the other hand tho I don’t think it’s an issue if someone enjoys smut in yaoi. I do too lol. It’s just that you gotta learn to appreciate truly good plots and separate them from the stuff you read for smut. You gottra read those with a whole different mindset lmao.
I agree. Those kinds of comments are very annoying, especially when it comes to stuff like sharpe and rabbit, where the slow burn is what makes it so exciting. On the other hand tho I don’t think it’s an is... Idk
so true, I love fluff and I'm over the moon if there is smut but if not then it's gucci. However, I need to point out to anyone that thinks I'm talking about all readers that enjoy smut are wrong. What was wrong was that the person was fetishizing mlm, disrespecting the genre, misgendering(so fucking pissed about this), using triggering topics without relation to context or trigger warning( ik this is an illegal site but at least be compassionate), lying, attempting to correct several people despite being given several explanations with evidence. But yes, reading the slow burn is completely different from the porno plots with alot of smut and that's perfectly okay. Just don't assume all mlm relationships are this toxic like represented in some BL or mlm are okay with rape( ISTG I HAVE DISCOURSED WITH SOMEONE THAT ONCE SAID "GAYS LIKE RAPING EACH OTHER BECAUSE I READ IT IN BL") also don't disrespect my fellow fujo/fudans/shoujo readers by calling them fetishizers:/ Thanks for putting your opinion in a nice way :3
you should read our convo below. They fr just- oh lord tried to correct a jap person on jap terms and excuse fetishizing by being gay so its okay and still got called out by three people with evidence and refus... spoopy chrollo sugartits
Please don't say "jap" that's a slur to Japanese people... just say jpn or Japanese.
I use this word unconciously when I rage type sometimes please don't be like me gomene sorry :( spoopy chrollo sugartits
Y'all ARE STILL TALKING? TF ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THROUGH?? MAN THIS IS SO STUPID one side of this Agreement can wait for the"sex" and the other can just enjoy the benefits of actual love. Like there is literally no reason to keep talking shit to each other when you don't need to. (︶︿︶)=凸
Y'all ARE STILL TALKING? TF ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THROUGH?? MAN THIS IS SO STUPID one side of this Agreement can wait for the"sex" and the other can just enjoy the benefits of actual love. Like there is litera... DrunkGenius
can you like be quiet and stomp your feet elsewhere. This convo was like weeks ago, literally everyone forgot about it. We established fetishization of mlm is not okay and what genres were outdated but you just *SIGH* shhh
I ain't hating anyone bcos they all have their reasons except the new slu-I meant bitc-wait sorry I actually meant to say boyfriend. That mf needs to get run over with a two ton dumpster truck and shat on :)
CHILE ANYWAYS SPOILERS INDICATE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Taejung's new bf is actually toxic and Taejung will try to get MC back I think. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm ain't reading this until half of the series has been updated cos no hunny. This weak heart :( Thanks uploaders
fucking hate it when I'm reading great BL with potential relationship development that is very interesting or realistic but someone comes and asks "so when y'all gonna fuck?" This is like so shitty. Fr making us BL readers look like we're fetishizing when we've spent so much time trying to prove that we just enjoy this genre .-.
you're reading yaoi. Ofc you're fetishising MLM.
Oh no the cursed commenter is back
you should read our convo below. They fr just- oh lord tried to correct a jap person on jap terms and excuse fetishizing by being gay so its okay and still got called out by three people with evidence and refuses to admit they are wrong :? smh weirdo
according to the dictionary:
make (something) the object of a sexual fetish.
have an excessive and irrational commitment to or obsession with (something).
fetish definition, by itself:
a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.
these are the only definitions. anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is uneducated.
things that are genuinely harmful to mlm:
claiming only mlm may enjoy mlm media, claiming trans men are not real men and therefore cannot enjoy mlm media, stereotyping real-life mlm
DON'T:
police how others enjoy mlm media, talk over mlm when they tell you bl is harmless and anyone can enjoy mlm smut
Then is shoujo a fetishization of hetero relationships? Both are unrealistic and if someone actually believes gay relationships are really like that then they shouldn't be on this site.
exactly bruh like is reading action fetishizing action????
fuzakeru na
Reminder that the person I'm mentioning also said manhwas were exactly the same as 'yaoi' (it's BL fuckwad)
I saw the whole clowning session lol.
Btw ik you're japanese yourself and I'm on your side but maybe you should use jpn as an abbreviation instead since "jap" has somewhat become an ethnic slur due to its use in western media in the last century. I really am not trying to police you so I'm sorry if i come across as nosy
ABSOLUTELY. READING PORN IS FETISHISING RELATIONSHIPS REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Be they straight, gay or lesbian- still fetishising.
nah it's gucci I appreciate your the way you put your comment in a polite manner and it puts a smile on my face. I'm actually Malay too but I've been on and off in Shibuya but this whole covid thingy got me stuck here. I'm supposed to be all the way in Singapore. Also for that dumb clown SIAL PUKIMAK KAU MAMPOS or shinjimae :)
Absolute troll lol
I'm done honestly an hour of discourse, several people calling you out with adequate simplified evidence meant not to humiliate you but to correct you (but let's be real we dropped the kind ethics long ago now it's just shut your pea brain up baka) and you still calling BL, Shoujo, Yuri fetishizing. IT IS NOT FETISHIZING UNLESS THE READER MAKES IT FETISHIZING. ANY MOVIE THAT HAS SEX SCENES LIKE AFTER OR THE KISSING BOOTH IS CENSORED OR HAS SUGGESTIVE CONTENT BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT PORN. IT IS UP TO THE WATCHER/READER ON ITS INTEPRETATION AND THIS BL AIN'T IT BOYOOOO.
thanks, I'm glad I live in your head rent free seeing as you remember me from months ago
Thanks for understanding. Also :// I'm so done with covid too
Embarassing not a malaysian thinking she japanese to justify using japanese terms in western society LMAOOOOO go to school gurl
Lmao what. i just saw your comments now, how am i gonna keep up with a troll for months, thats some individuality complex youve got
still obsessed with me
I'm mixed race fucker. Malays are spread out in the malayan archipelago from indonesia to singapore weirdo. Fucking xenophobic. You ain't even Japanese. You all cap and bullshit pretending to be Japanese just so you can try to slide your way out of this.
I'm genderfluid fucker she/her ain't the default
Not them pretending to be Japanese, misgendering me thinking she/her is the default, xenophobic, idiot that thinks Malay people are form Malaysia(they originated from Indonesia, there a different types of Malays like Boyanese and Javanese), correcting a Japanese person living in Japan practically surrounded with the word BL while saying they're a jap person living in the uk so they're trying to correct me on the westerners pov when they literally like minute ago tried to say nO yAoi is gAy sEx oNly fEtishIZe BrR and several foreigners telling that person it ain't it :/
they said this...
"omggg EMBARASSSINGGGGG you don't even know the genres
Yaoi = gay romance + gay sex
Shounen-ai = gay romance + no sex
Shota = boy kid + pedo stuff
Girl go learn the genres a bit more instead of embarassing yourself here tryna correct their definition Awwwww someone a wittle angwyyy If you mad just leave lmao no one stopping you"
and now they're saying they're a jp person living in the UK so they're trying to correct me on the western pov despite several westerners saying no hunny it is not it. Them misgendering me, thinking all malay people are from Malaysia ( they originated from Indonesia before Malays started to separate into different dialects and beliefs like Boyanese and Javanese) despite me saying I'm Jp living in Shibuya and having a Malay family in Singapore like stfu. Not them calling me the colonizer when they CLAIM to be jp. I'm part colonizer bitcheth but you don't see me calling Family Guy porn and hey let's make it fap material aye.
しんじまえ :)
Youre right but you got one thing wrong. Shounen Ai is actually a romance that works with age play/rlly big age gaps. So like minors and adults.
yea that too
They didn’t even bring up that ‘fact’ until I said that I was Japanese and they didn’t even said they were gay until another person said that they were gay when I said that idiot was fetishizing.
Chain of even summarized from the deleted topic:
-when is the sex
-three people saying no honey it ain't it just enjoy the plot
-them saying reading BL/GL/shounen is fetishizing
-refuses to read documented evidence
-me saying they're fetishizing mlm
-them saying no I'm not I'm mlm too
-an mlm calling them out
-them saying I don't know what 'yaoi' 'shounen ai' means despite me writing three paragraphs of eveidence with the correct definition and explanation along with some Jp translation and repeatedly asking them to stop correcting me because I am japanese and I live in Shibuya with my aunt and she's a fucking BL artist
-them also loosely using p*dophilia when trying to explain something that nothing to do with the previous convo
-me trying to explain sex will def happen later in the story but respect the author and their plot
-them talking about r*pe and how all BL is the same and they're all for them to fap with
-them again using r*pe topics with tw and not realizing I am a victim of sexual harrasment and p*dophilia and so could others
-me giving more evidence and cussing very VERY BAD PROFANITIES that could get me into serious trouble if that person was Jp but obv they're cap and they didn't budge
-Them suddenly claiming to be jp but they're living in the uk yet still had to google what shounen ai really means despite them CONFIDENTLY claiming the 'correct' definitions awhile ago
-Me agreeing with a fellow moot and saying I'm mixed and I'm Malay too but I'm supposed to be in Singapore( small talk hehe)
-Them saying "Embarassing not a malaysian thinking she japanese to justify using japanese terms in western society LMAOOOOO go to school gurlll"
-me confused because I literally spoke to them in Japanese, said I was Jp and lived in Shibuya since I was three SEVERAL TIMES
-Them calling me a colonizer despite them claiming to be Jp
-Me saying they're dumb if they think all Malays are from Malaysia because they originated from Indonesia before splitting into different dialects and cultural context like Javanese and Boyanese which shows how dumb they are when they brought up wikipedia info bout Jp colonization previously and had the audacity to ask me to learn history. I STUDIED HISTORY FOR SIX YEARS FUCKWAD AND THEY GOT THEIR INFO OFF WIKEPEDIA JESUS
done. They've been RATIOTED AND NOW I HAVE NEW FRIENDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY STRANGERS HELPING ME.
It's the racism, carelessness, ignorance, perversion, idiocy, ego for me
chile fucker if you reading this 黙れ :)
Same feeling here. It is shitty to reduce a good story plot or development just down to sex.
Yaoi doesn't mean smut all the time. It just means imo a visible physical interaction. Not like fucking all the time and i'm annoyed of readers if they comment so.
I agree. Those kinds of comments are very annoying, especially when it comes to stuff like sharpe and rabbit, where the slow burn is what makes it so exciting. On the other hand tho I don’t think it’s an issue if someone enjoys smut in yaoi. I do too lol. It’s just that you gotta learn to appreciate truly good plots and separate them from the stuff you read for smut. You gottra read those with a whole different mindset lmao.
so true, I love fluff and I'm over the moon if there is smut but if not then it's gucci. However, I need to point out to anyone that thinks I'm talking about all readers that enjoy smut are wrong. What was wrong was that the person was fetishizing mlm, disrespecting the genre, misgendering(so fucking pissed about this), using triggering topics without relation to context or trigger warning( ik this is an illegal site but at least be compassionate), lying, attempting to correct several people despite being given several explanations with evidence. But yes, reading the slow burn is completely different from the porno plots with alot of smut and that's perfectly okay. Just don't assume all mlm relationships are this toxic like represented in some BL or mlm are okay with rape( ISTG I HAVE DISCOURSED WITH SOMEONE THAT ONCE SAID "GAYS LIKE RAPING EACH OTHER BECAUSE I READ IT IN BL") also don't disrespect my fellow fujo/fudans/shoujo readers by calling them fetishizers:/ Thanks for putting your opinion in a nice way :3
Please don't say "jap" that's a slur to Japanese people... just say jpn or Japanese.
Will do
I use this word unconciously when I rage type sometimes please don't be like me gomene sorry :(
Y'all ARE STILL TALKING? TF ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THROUGH?? MAN THIS IS SO STUPID one side of this Agreement can wait for the"sex" and the other can just enjoy the benefits of actual love. Like there is literally no reason to keep talking shit to each other when you don't need to. (︶︿︶)=凸
can you like be quiet and stomp your feet elsewhere. This convo was like weeks ago, literally everyone forgot about it. We established fetishization of mlm is not okay and what genres were outdated but you just *SIGH* shhh