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my bad accidental downvote

Lol. The seme didn't rape the uke tho. I saw the raws

Where did you read the raw? Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

yaoiotaku.com. where you can find almost all the raws

GAME OF THRONES, only right now we don't have new episodes to watch, wich is sad but stil, we can atleast watch all the seasons again. What i'm of course planning to do ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Maybe Claire or Adrion? I mean I don't remember anyone mentioning anything about either of them being killed? Plus I've always had this question about why John reacted to Remi the way he did when she was actually the first one to help him without expecting anything from him. Her voice seemed to have triggered his reaction since the words themselves seemed completely different. I also wonder if the guy Arlo seemed to admire was perhaps Remi's brother who had been murdered. It's interesting to note that he also has green hair especially given how the author loves to make genetic connections between parent and child.

It would be fun if Claire was the one who transferred in. The look on her face when she sees John would be hilarious.

I just thought that John was just pissed, and took it out on her. With everyone tricking him, and bullying him, I think he thought she was doing the same thing. Didn't he try to apologize after?

I think Remi's brother was someone Arlo admired. Didn't we read how he use to follow her brother around? Or wanted to be just like him (King)?

I like how all the bubbles are the color of their hair XD

Well the reason I ask that about John and Remi is because he also has a partial flashback to the incident with Claire at the same time.

And the reason why I ask that about Arlo and Remi's brother is because of the time Arlo and John were talking about the people they most admired? They didn't say directly that the guy Arlo admired was related to Remi after all....

Nah I figured Arlo would be shaken. With his power being a barrier and when someone who tries to attack him while inside the barrier will receive reflective damage, he's literally untouchable. To be beaten to this degree by someone he thought was a cripple and said cripple actually wields a god like ability, he's shook to his core. And since Arlo knows about John's past and how John took down his whole class, Arlo's probably worried he's woken up a sleeping dragon and that John will do the same again. It's satisfying tho to see an arrogant dick like Arlo fall from grace, bless John.

No Arlo realized John wasn't a cripple long before this. That's why he took him to the Turf Wars location in the first place. To get him to reveal his abilities. That's why he wanted the info about John taking down half his class with his powers.

Also, John was the one who didn't want Arlo to talk about what happened between him and the other students. So unless ARLO says something John won't either.

Was it because John had 'realized' what he'd done or was it because he remembered that there was a person who had worth in his eyes? After all that was the emotional outburst he had right before he noticed Sera sitting there.

Isen was the only one to know about John's past. Arlo didn't know anything about John, other than the fact that he wasn't who/what he was telling everyone he was. Isen kept all that information to himself--he refused to tell Arlo anything about what he discovered about John. But, I do think that you are right. Arlo will be worried about the beast he's awakened. Fun stuff XD

It think It's both. Seeing Sera reminded him that not everyone was as worthless as he believed, and it also made him realize the horror of what he had done, which was why he had such an emotional breakdown.

I don't think he would really find it horrifying though...? But I'm just guessing. I'm not really saying that I'm right. It may have something to do with what we talked about earlier though. How John's father wrote that book for him because he was concerned about his son repeating the same mistakes he made over two years ago? And John may feel disappointed that he's not meeting his father's expectations.

Mm... Maybe "horrifying" is too strong of a word. Disappointed is better. Like, once John saw and heard Sera, the gravity of what John had done hit him (thus the flashbacks of the beat-down he tolled). And, after having failed, he finds himself pathetic for having lost his cool. It seems like he worked so hard to not be the person he had been in that other school. I don't know if it's his dad he hates having disappointed, or himself. Since all his woes are directed inward, and not focused on his dad, I think John is only thinking about how he failed himself.

OoOoOohhhh. I was thinking ;p, what happened to John in the one year he was away? He got kicked out of his old high school two years ago, but joined his current school only a year ago. What happened to him in tht year? Did he, like, go in to get 'reprogrammed' to make him less of a threat? Maybe his mom is part of Amber, and came to mellow out his brain, and that's why he was calmly able to go back to school?

I noticed that, while John is pretending to be a cripple, hates when weaker students get bullied, and is stronger than everyone x50, he does not think to join Amber. He likes what they do, but he won't join them. I find that pretty weird.

He cant really join them after all. How will he take down criminals if he always fisrt need to get attacked first with powers to use his own power. These people do get famous after a while so there would later find ways to compat them.

I was thinking along the lines that he'd be with someone, so that he can borrow their gifts. I know those that were killed were labeled vigilantes, I don't think they worked alone...right?

Um John threatened to dethrone him. Knowing that he would do it publicly is a LOT more shameful to him than doing it where it isn't out in the open so I don't know why he would reveal it.

He doesn't lack emotions if he's royally pissed. Anger is an emotion after all...? Plus he did seem to have emotions when he was fighting them? Unless this is a 'bullies always have emotions no matter how callously they treat others but a victim stops having emotions once they respond to the bullying in kind' thing I don't know how anyone could believe such a thing.

John WAS basically a cripple from the first memories we see of him. Why would his dad need to write a book for him in that case then? PLUS near the very beginning of the story he was born without a power it said. If he had accessed other people's abilities before why would they be treating him as a cripple during those very same memories?

Arlo is someone who has (in my opinion) a BIG ego. He's lost to John, but such a defeat might only make him hesitate in attacking John again. As I said, Arlo doesn't seem like someone who would let being beaten slide. Meaning, Arlo might very well go after John again, regardless of John's threat, the shame, or the public ridicule. This is all my opinion, though. It could very much be that Arlo becomes John's friend (a true friend) later.
╮(￣▽￣)╭. Speculation is a wonderful thing XD.

My bad, I should have clarified. It's not that John lacks emotions, because, yes, being angry does mean that he has emotions. I should have said that John <em>seems</em> to hold little regard for human life once enraged. And, the first flashbacks/memories of John only shows us that he wasn't using his powers. In this story, a 'cripple' is someone with absolutely no powers. John does, clearly we can see that he does. If you're talking about the second chapter where John says that he was born without an ability of his own, that could be--<em>could be</em> translated to the fact that, unlike the others who can shield, use wind powers, turn their hands into claws, their body into stone etc., John doesn't have something he can uniquely call his own.

Also, the kids in John's memories weren't treating him like a cripple, they were afraid of him. He was called a monster. Kids with monstrous abilities calling John a monster? That's gotta mean that John's gift is copying other's abilities and using them, right?

And (holy crap this is getting long...sorry) my comment about maybe John's dad wrote the book for him because of how uncaring he was when he was king at his other school. A way to teach him compassion. Someone powerful protecting the weak etc. Because, John seemed like a dick when he was king.

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Okay my apologies in turn for what looks as if it's going to turn out to be a long winded reply as well. If you don't want to read a long reply yourself I hope you consider this as being forewarned (:)) :

Well... no. Imo. Remember when Isen, Blyke and Remi were sitting in the Police station with their hands cuffed? They were talking about obsessions. And Arlo's was order. He can't very well keep order if he's dethroned. And it's precisely his ego I was referring to when I was talking about what will keep him from confronting John. Those two things combined clinch it for me, completely. His big ego will neither stand for PUBLIC embarrassment nor will it stand for someone else (who has no INTEREST in) controlling the order in his own school. I think in some ways the fight between Veltus, Meili and Arlo and John did not go as Arlo planned but in others it went EXACTLY the way he expected. The primary expectation there being to take John's measure. Which he did. And now he KNOWS he cannot win this fight. I think Arlo has little appetite for a messy fight on his hands, at the very least. BTW I do not think and never have thought that John and Arlo will ever be friends.

Well John's opponents held very little regard for his or anyone else' life and they don't need to be pissed in order to think that way. That was the crux of my argument over how John should not be judged for how little or much emotion he displays towards the lives of others unless we are going to judge his bullies based on the same criteria.

I never said he was a cripple. I said basically a cripple for the exact reason you've given. He needs to access other people's abilities in order to wield a power. I think this was a disagreement that largely arose due to an error in communication.

Do you remember the first time John and Claire first met? That is the incident I'm referring to when I said he was *basically* treated as a cripple. It was his earliest memory that we've seen yet. He was surrounded by a group of three bullies and he was the victim on the ground. The next thing we see is Claire kneeling in front of him offering him her help with one braid on either side of her head;

But that's all I'm able to think of saying on the subject for now.

Longwinded responses are wonderful XD (this is also one ;p). Only way to clear up misunderstandings/disagreements.

And, you are right(≧∀≦). Arlo's need to keep order is foremost. However (of course XD)... Arlo's need to keep order might also backfire on John ;q Arlo seemed pretty obsessed--and pissed--with the fact that John wasn't in his proper place in the hierarchy. He now has gotten a glimpse of what John can do. He might even take his defeat as having already being dethroned, and bug the crap outta John to take his place on the throne. Then again, Arlo probably will just shut his trap and do as John says lol. And the friend thing? Come on, you gotta admit that it's a possibility. Government conspiracy. Teenagers against "the man" that creates a bond between enemies. It could happen (*^.^*).

I have no beef on John's opponents lack of regard toward other people's well-being, nor do I judge John for his, either. I was just speculating on why his dad wrote the book and why he dedicated it to his son ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ .

OoOoOhhh, John's first meeting with Claire. Makes you wonder what age they really were. I mean, I know we read that John was kicked out of his old high school, but they seem so much younger in the flashbacks. And, what age they first develop their abilities? They (some dude) said that Claire had a "vision" about John. So, how was she able to see John's abilty before he knew it? Is it age? Was she older than him--even by a little bit--and that's why she knew?

Okay this is probably going to be shorter than I'd originally planned seeing as how Mangago doesn't have an automatic save function like Mangafox so that if someone, say, accidentally presses the back button on their smartphone they lose all their data, so I don't feel like typing it all out again.

Anyway! I agree with all of your points.

And there are some interesting ones. Indeed what age do they acquire their abilities? Before birth? The maternal host would need to have powers to protect herself from those with potentially destructive and, as of yet, uncontrolled powers (although one notable exception might be John. More info on that in a little bit). So it would probably be more like X-Men.

Adrion was the person's name concerning Claire's vision BTW. :D

As someone else noted the lack of any mention concerning John's mother is... concerning. Given that the author seems to be studiously avoiding any mention of her I agree with that other person that his mother will probably play a huge role in future chapters down the road. I do wonder if we've already 'seen' her. Is she the invisible person? If we recall that person showed no hostility towards John or Sera even when John threw the item at the person to expose their presence. This brings me to why John might be an exception but at the same time gives more reason to believe the acquisition of power is more like X-Men. John would need a mother who is a cripple which would not only mean she could not be the invisible person but that if she wasn't a cripple John and everyone else would have had to acquire their powers after birth.

I will also add that this was indeed an interesting discussion. I'm so happy that I can add a third story to the collection of places that I can visit where I will find what I'm looking for. A discussion based on a story's merits rather than a celebration of finding the newest and shiniest tropes yet.

It did turn out to be quite lengthy. Should have known all along I know. Lol.

I would think that they did develop their abilities after a certain age, kinda like X-Men, but without the extreme stress situation. Your point on how much damage these kids could inflict while in the womb is sound. A mother who is a cripple would never be able to survive if their babies had access to their abilities.

You know, I never once thought about John's mother. Maybe it's all that Disney brainwashing. Accepting that there is only one parent (or no parents), and unconciously assuming his mother was dead. But, I thought that the invisible person was the boy John saved in the earlier chapters. When John 'felt' someone following them after Sera and he want to the mall, I thought that boy had been following them. It was only after Remi found the chip in the teddy bear that I then began to think that that kid was part of the 'hunting' group.

This was a fun conversation XD Your insight really had my brain doing a happy dance with all the paths this story could take.

I didn't think the boy that John saved was the invisible person simply because the shirt John threw at that person landed on their chest not on top of their head, and the boy he saved was much shorter than he was while the invisible person seemed to be of the same height or a little taller. But that's just my theory. Lol.

Another person also suggested that John's mother was a member of Ember.

I have another half-baked theory as well. Half-baked because I don't really have any reason to suspect this other than a similarity in hairstyle that another poster identified. Among the bullies we see in the earliest flashbacks we have of John's memories the boy in the background who's hairstyle resembles the currently ungelled version that John himself sports. Is it possible, do you think, that John, through one means or another, is possessing that boy's body?

Anyway that's all the unsolicited and probably confusing suggestions I'll throw at you for today!

I do have to add that this English webtoon is one of only a handful of English originals that I find are actually really interesting without trying too hard to be like a Korean/Japanese manwha/manga. To me that's really exciting, too.

I didn't think it was a woman at all when John threw the shirt on the invisible person, which is why I thought it was the boy at school. I though John had thrown the shirt on the person's head (those would be some pointless boobs that chick had, if it has been a woman).

As for John possessing a boy in one of his flashbacks... I couldn't find the chapter to give you an oppinion on your theory. But, why would John want to? What would be the significance of doing so?

It didn't like he threw it on top of the person's head and that's all I was saying.

As for the other part of your post I believe I said that's why I thought it was half-baked? I did mention that I didn't have any other reason to suspect it other than the hairstyle after all....

It didn't *look* like....

Oh, hahaha. It was the opposite for me. I thought John threw it over the invisible person's head because of the pointiness under the shirt (i.e. Spiky hair).

I saw that you said it was a half-baked theory, I just couldn't think of a reason why ;p I mean, if John possessed him, wouldn't he have discovered Claire's detrayal through that guy? Instead of the nut-punch way he did find out?

I like the thought of John's mom being an Amber member. I forgot to mention that XD

Did everyone know about Claire's betrayal though? Or was it just a select few and when she realized how hard it was going to be to control John that's when she let everyone in on how she was going to dethrone him? I think you're more likely correct though and that everyone else was in on it from the beginning.

I looked at that image again, where John threw the shirt at the person, and now it looks to me like EITHER of us could be correct, in that it's either that boy or another male who is actually about the same height as John. I really like it when both sides could be correct. It makes for some of the more interesting discussions to be had I believe!

If that was the same boy though that brings up the question of how John knew that someone was following them since not even Sera knew. If it's because he absorbed the boy's powers beforehand then that means he absorbs powers without having to consciously activate his own abilities when he sees it, literally as well as figuratively, being used. Especially given that he and the boy didn't seem to know each other and John seemed surprised to find out he disappeared so quickly, then. Which makes it weird that he needed to see all three of Meili, Veltus and Arlo's powers being used before he could access them. It also makes me curious as to why he doesn't seem to have copied Sera's abilities yet. On the other hand why would John have been so surprised to see that other boy disappear so quickly when he already had access to his abilities, since accessing them seems to indicate instant recognition of what they are?

However, if John had already copied Sera's abilities without her knowing, I would like to see her face when she does. Sorry I'm just not a big fan of Sera's.

That one guy (I suck at remembering names) saw that John took down half of his class, right? So, it's either that the other half were too weak to matter to Claire, too young, didn't want to get invoulved, or didn't show up to the fight. However, I'd lean more to the first and second, if we assume age is a factor. I would think that Claire would only want the strongest fighting against John in her attempt to take him down... Although, we saw how that plan backfired on her ;p

I was thinking that because John has the ability to copy people's abilities, maybe he can 'feel' their abilities, too. So, like, maybe he can 'taste/feel' another person's abilities? He didn't notice the invisible person was following them until he and Sera were alone. Maybe once no one else was a around, that's when he felt another power that was not Sera's following them.

I don't think John needs to see the other person's abilities before he can use them. I think they need to use them against him/he needs to be in direct physical contact it their abilities before he can use them. Mei and Vel used their abilities when they attached John (of course), so John was able to mimic their powers immediately. It seemed to me that John couldn't use Arlo's power until Arlo tried to shield himself from John's attack, and it was after that that John was able to use Arlo's power against him.

I think John loses the abilities of others after awhile. I mean, he'd explode with all the powerful abilities he's come in contact over the years. But, does he willingly relinquish the power or is there a set time? Like, can he only hold onto powers for five minutes? Ten...?
An hour?

And, I don't think John would ever use Sera's powers unless he really has to. Maybe to protect her? Or if she betrayed him...She's his only friend, and I think he'd want to keep that friendship for as long as he possibly could.

A show down between John and Sera would be exxxccceeelllent, though >:)

Attacked* (i really need to proofread before I post ;p)

But he had a taste/feel of the power that the guy who was bullying the blonde kid had in the earlier chapter. Yet he didn't seem to recognize the taste/feel of the invisible person in that later chapter. I mean if he had a taste/feel of that bully then he should be able to identify the taste/feel of the blonde kid right?

And I was actually wondering if the guy (he was never named, BTW) who had the similar hairstyle to John knew what Claire was going to do because if he didn't that would kinda support my earlier theory.

But you've raised quite a few good points again!

And as for errors in your replies if that's the only mistake you're making I'd say you're doing pretty darned good.

Hum... maybe he can sense a person with power, but that's all he can do? He can't identify the person or know what kind of power they have. So, that would mean that he recognizes Sera's power, and maybe people in his class, but only because he spends so much time with them. But, with that kid who he's only ever saw once and only briefly (I shall name him...INVIZA BOY! Bleh lol), he didn't recognize him when he and Sera were together that night.

I would think that everyone knew what Claire was planning, but--unlike the blond dude that balled-up and told John, and the ones already on Claire's side--no one was brave enough to tell John the truth. A recruitment of that size, Claire and her 'people' would have had to talk to all the kids. So, I'm thinking everyone knew.

Man, I have to reread the story to try to find the flashback of the guy you're talking about (T^T).

I had more mistakes in that post lol. It was just the mispselled word "attached" that bugged the crap outta me XD

Okay I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying only half knew when you were actually saying that only half fought him.

Okay that theory about Inviza Boy (yes, I'm going to call him that too now. :P) is starting to work for me now, too.

And I just posted before I wanted to. Dang fingers!

I'll try to find that flashback for you myself too. I just remember it so well because people did think at one point that that WAS him.

That blonde haired boy who balled up as you so efficiently put it was named Adrion BTW. :)

Also I said that about the errors because attached was the only one I noticed. So I still think you're doing pretty good! :D

Okay here's the link to the page:

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/unordinary/nmt/c024/pg-27/ The guy I'm talking about is the one in the middle.

Also I ended up reading the info on ability levels again. I think it makes that possibility you mentioned before even MORE likely. Under the section about high tiers it mentions that people can use a part of their ability without activating it. So John being God tier it would make more sense that he can taste/feel the presence of others with abilities but not identify precisely what those abilities are.

Man, I was looking in the upper chapters for the picture you were talking about :p

And, I don't know if John would have been able to possess the green-haired kid. Not unless that kid or someone in that fight had that ability. That would be pretty cool, though XD.

I normally skip through the extra chapters... What does 'trick' on the ability scale mean?

Well there might be earlier chapters because I don't think that's the only time we saw him. I just couldn't find those pictures. In any case, I don't normally read the extras myself but given the kind of story this is I thought it might give me some insights into the plot. As for what tricks are I'm not too sure but I THINK it has something to do with new skills you develop by manipulating your ability.

I'd rather have a bar graph... I look at the power level in her diamond graph, and I'm, like, O.o huh??!! New chapter tomorrow night!

So a bar graph that uses bars for tricks to emphasize the power level bar?

Yeah, a bar graph for all the power levels.

Yeah, i hope he doesn't lose her. I hope they could work this out well together.
And I was think John's ability must have some condition, right? Like how does it work and stuff. Just curious.