First, thank you so much for translating this!
Okay, so Sungho seriously is bat-shit crazy. From this chapter, it sounds like he's always had a problem--an illness? Is that why he obsessed/latched onto Dohyum as much as he has? In chapter 34, he stated that everything he did was for revenge and nearly killed Doh-boy. But...then he confessed and told Dohyum that he liked him (which we all know 'like' in manga and manhwa is just like saying, "I love you").
Dohyum, on the other hand, is so exhausted and traumatized by this guy, that he's asking for death because he thinks it's the only way he'll be free from Sungho. And now we have new players who don't seem to care what's going on, and it's clear to Dohyum that they weren't going to help him at all. Sad.
I can say that Sungho saving Dohyum was great in an oh-my-friggin'-God kind of way. It was like he was the Terminator, the way he showed absolutely no emotion or pain after getting stabbed in hand with that crowbar.
Now, however, is the scary part... What is Sungho going to do now that his 'sanctuary' has been discovered?
Reading the translators texts at the end of each chapter is hilarious. I love it when I find a manga they've translated (≧∀≦)
Sorry, I meant to click thumbs up instead of thumbs down.
Poor Dohyum. Everyone in high school are assholes, but Doh didn't rape Sungho then. Pressured him into sex maybe, but it wasn't rape. Sungho had the option of saying no, but didn't because he had feelings for Dohyum...but resents the sexual part of of Dohyum's 'like'. What Sungho really needs is therapy, like, major friggin therapy.
Sungho is going bat-shit crazy now. I mean, he was already nuts, but I think he's completely fallen off the deep end now. He almost killed Doh-boy.
Thank you for translating this so much! This has been the best story (because it actually has a plot-line, and isn't just a 'smut-line').
Sorry, but it is rape. By using emotional manipulation he put pressure on Sungho to do sexual acts he clearly doesn't want to do, it's called sexual coercion.
Coercion is the use of emotional manipulation to persuade someone to something they may not want to do – like being sexual or performing certain sexual acts. Examples of some coercive statements include: “If you love me you would have sex with me .”, “If you don’t have sex with me I will find someone who will.”, and “I’m not sure I can be with someone who doesn’t want to have sex with me.” Being coerced into having sex or performing sexual acts is not consenting to having sex and is considered rape/sexual assault.
So if Dohyum is implying that “If you don’t have sex with me I will find someone who will” it is “coercion,” and thus means that any resulting sex is not consensual. This means that getting sex that way is “rape and/or sexual assault” (because it’s “coerced sexual contact”).
That's the confusion, though, isn't it? I may have to reread that chapter that had that flash back, but I don't think there was any manipulation like you stated, which is why I'm on the fence. There's manipulation and then there's pressure. A boy won't be arrested for emotionally manipulating his girlfriend into having sex with him with the coercive statements you gave as an example, if they were, every boy would be in prison. A thin line, I know.
Don't get me wrong, I know exactly what you are talking about, and I agree with you to a certain point. To a certain point, because we don't know if Dohyum had made any of those kinds of statements, right? Assuming is death ;p We don't know, why is why I love this story (I could do without the rape, though) We know that Sungho didn't want to do it so it was coercive on his part, but we don't know if Dohyum knew he was forcing Sungho into a sexual act or if he thought Sungho was willing after telling him that he wanted after saying he didn't.
I think I confusing myself LOL. You make my brain think. I love you (▰˘◡˘▰)
I also think it's not rape. The problem is Sunghos extreme obsession since his school days.
It was not rape.
We have never seen Dohyun verbally or physically forced Sungho who did his mental gymnastic and made the decision.
Sungho never voiced his opinions that he didn't like doing it to Dohyun. In chapter 33, Dohyun realized that Sungho didn't like the sex back then and told Sungho that he should have spoken, which means he wasn't aware of Sungho's feelings. Dohyun did it because he liked Sungho and thought that Sungho enjoyed sex. That was insensitive on his part but he did not manipulate Sungho.
Translation was wrong:
Here, Sungho said, "Wait a minute. Not like this. I want to spend time doing other things."
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/warehouse/uu/warehouse-chapter-28/6/
Dohyun said here, "Oh, did you not like it? You wanted me to pay you? You should have told me, you fucker."
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/warehouse/uu/warehouse-chapter-33/9/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/warehouse/uu/warehouse-chapter-33/10/
Rather than rape, it's probably better to categorize it as non-consensual sex.
As stated in the Five Vices of Consent, this might be what you call the "undue influence" where a party's volition is controlled and they're unable to resist it. It is obviously shown that Sungho was obligated to accept everything Do Hyun asked because he loved him and didn't want to be shunned by him for refusing his favors.
The problem is that no one is obligated to do anything out of love. It's by choice. That's not being controlled. That's like saying, "It is obviously shown that Sungho was obligated to imprison and rape Dohyun because he loved him and didn't want to be shunned by him."
Lmao what? First, anyone can be obligated to do things out of love. But I'm not sure if this is love in the first place. Second, this situation is not applicable to Sungho's kidnapping. Maybe you should do some reading about "Five vices of Consent", the "undue influence". Clearly Sungho was not very happy with the sexual things he did with Do Hyun, he had wanted to do normal things like normal friends would do. But he couldn't refuse him didn't he?
No, obligation means you have no choices because you're bound to do it. If you do something out of love, that's by choice. It's not obligation. What do you mean Sungho could not refuse? He could refuse. He could say "no" any time. No one threatened him either verbally or physically. He wanted something (Dohyun's being around) and he willingly had sex for that. It's called an exchange.
Anyway, since your English is poor, here's the definition of obligation: "Something that a person feels morally or legally forced to do".
https://www.batasnatin.com/law-library/civil-law/obligations-and-contracts/2344-consent-in-obligations-and-contracts.html
English cannot win against written laws, sweetheart. Your understanding about the word is only the tip of iceberg.
Did you even read that site you linked to? I'm not seeing anything that fits what happened between Sungho and Dohyun in the past. And the site appears to belong to a random law firm in Philippines, which I'm not even sure anybody should trust.
Lol attacking the website now? Don't worry since I'm sure that this website has a better facts than you do. If you cannot link the vices with what they were doing, you're either not reading it or just too stupid to understand. Maybe the latter.
Stop fighting, you're making the ukes cry (T^T)
Hehe, you guys are so passionate in your disagreements.
I was not attacking the website. I was pointing out the lack of credibility from the site that you linked to. When you quote someone, you need to research whether the source is reliable or not and a law firm from Philippines is not. Since you start resorting to insults instead of reasoning like adults and I'm not willing to stoop to your level, this will be my last message in this thread.
If you don't want to be called stupid then don't act like one.
@SH47 Sorry for spamming on your post. I don't think the argument will actually take this long. It's really a waste of time.
It's all good (*^^*)
Man, I hate this kind of cruelty. I hope Naru finds someone else to teach Kei a lesson. Yes, the uke is an asshole, and both of them are messed up in the head, but Naru always played his games with Kei. It was them against everyone else.
I so agree with you. Please dear god. I wish that too. Let Naru find someone just to make Kei upset too that ass.
Okay, from this chapter (chapter 30), what I took from it was this: Dohyum pressured Sungho to do stuff with him, but we don't know what kinds of sexual activity Sungho was pressured into doing (penitration). We can only assume that Sungho is doing exactly the same thing to Dohyum as it was done to him, because they skipped over those parts in the flashback (I hate assuming).
Then, for some unknown reason, Dohyum is gone. Sungho is all kinds of messed up in the head, because he's letting Dohyum do all these things to him even though he doesn't want them to be done to him, just so he can stay by Dohyum's side (talk about giving mixed signals).
You can see (well, I can) that Sungho has lost his grip to reality as time goes on in the flashbacks. I wonder if his obsession with Doh-boy is why he's got that scar on his face. We know Dohyum hasn't been a choir-boy, and has been doing some illegal stuff. Maybe, while trying to track Dohyum down, Sungho got mixed up with some shady dudes.
Seriously, though, should Dohyum be held accountable for the things he did to Sungho? When Sungho told Dohyum that he didn't want to do 'those kinds of things', Dohyum stopped. Then Sungho told him he wanted to do them, which is why Dohyum did them.
That's if Sungho is doing all of this for revenge ;p
I honestly can say that I cannot see any kind of happy ending happening in this story. And, if by some miracle the author does end this story with a HEA (Happily ever after), I think I'd be a bit disappointed.
In most yaoi that begins with rape, it's mostly an eye-roll away from them falling madly in love. I think this story is too good for it to end like that. I can only hope that whatever memories scar face is trying to make the main character remember, will leave the both of them with some kind of closure.
Or the main character escaping after killing his rapist, either way, no falling madly in love, please!
I'm expecting Stockholm Syndrome or Lima Syndrome. Either way that can be a happy enough ending.
I was also thinking about how I'd like the story to end. In Killing Stalking, I want to see Bum save and Sangwo either dead or imprisoned. But it's different from this manga even though the setting (rather, atmosphere) is kinda similar.
In KS, Bum may have already been a creepy dude (stalking and stuff), but he was never really dangerous (until he killed someone, that is ^^').
But in Warehouse, the MC isn't someone innocent; he's probably hurt his kidnapper deeply, and he's not solely a victim just because he can't remember. I'm not saying that - whatever the MC has done to him - makes his crimes right, but if what happened before was really bad, I could totally see myself pitying the kidnapper for going insane because of the past.
And if that would be the case, I could actually imagine a 'happy ending' where they both end up together. And it still wouldn't seem like a cliché 'from-rape-to-love' story, but a twisted, fucked-up 'love' where neither of them could ever be sure of the other's true feelings. They'd probably depend on each other because they're the only people left who understand them; who can console them and lick their wounds; where one is just as mental as the other. And this wouldn't be considered a 'happy ending' even though they'd have ended up together.
Yup, I think I'd like that.
Looking at his body language this chapter, I think Sungho is already far, far beyond Lima Syndrome.
Lima Syndrome? No, I think the MC's attitude doesn't match for that. Same for Stockholm. The MC wants out, feels hatred for scar face, and is doing everything he can to fool the guy to set him free. Well, right now he's not. Whose to say what will happen when he remembers. He could fall into one of those two syndromes.
It would be kind of sad, though, don't you think? A happy ending because you were brainwashed into falling in love with your captor...
*spoiler warning* You mean in chapter 34 where he's holding the chain & panicking while having flashbacks of all the things he's done to Dohyun?
Okay, so maybe (from the scar on the seme's face) both of them were in an accident and the main character suffered memory loss as the result of that accident and thus the reason why he doesn't remember. Or, the event that has turned the seme into a psycho was so traumatic for the MC that he blocked it.
I seriously hope this isn't a case of "You told someone about us, and I got bullied badly after you left. You knew nothing about it, but I blame you because I loved you so much", because that would suck ass.
I agree. this story is very interesting, and I honestly hope it would have a better plot than that.
I was looking at the raws and it seems like some guys ih their class were making fun of them for hanging out in the gym so much, and one guy gave the yellow eyed boy a condom and said something in Korean(I don't understand Korean ╥﹏╥)and yellow eyed boy punched him and then all his friends surrounded yellow eyed boy and I guess beat him,I'm not sure tho since he doesn't have any bruises in the next scene where he eats cake with the main character. If u wanna know more I can tell you.
From what I saw of the raws, I think it's something way worse.
Yeah I think so too but I can't jump ti conclusions yet.
20 and he doesn't consider himself young? He's still a baby.