Most plot can be devised from "what does the main character want?" And "what is getting in their way?"
Yes. The lady does still want to rest. But she literally cannot die (the final rest that she actually craves) and she literally cannot avoid being the center of so much karmic destiny shit and she cannot just choose to not care (all a part of the curse that was explained)
The plot definitely meanders through different arcs but the only reason they came to this kingdom (for the current arc) was to get one of the things they needed to to end her curse and allow her to die.
She wants to rest. She wants to die. And the plot is actually still relevant to that.
Ffs
I've been one of this comic's biggest defenders
But this chapter pushed me over the fucking edge and I'm seriously irritated
I've related a lot to the characters and the motions they're going through so I thought it was all very intentional and well written
But something about this chapter feels like it tossed it all out the fucking window and I actually don't trust that this author is even competent and isn't just jerking everyone around on purpose
On second thought, it's fucking Dami
Fuck Dami
I hate that guy.
He needs to just like go die quietly off screen or smth
The recent chapters with Dami were actually okay ? He has some interesting interactions with Joon
But the way Doha reacts and interacts with Dami feel so fucking unacceptable I fucking hate them and this chapter reminded me of that x100. Doha does not have the acceptable boundaries in place when it comes to Dami, especially knowing Dami still likes him and knowing how Dami has treated (and continues to treat) Joon since highschool (something the author themself just completely moved on from as if he wasn't totally manipulative and abusive)
Everyone has been pissed as fuck at Joon especially for not communicating (and yk choosing to have sex instead of talking, but that's a fair point actually) but it's FUCKING DOHA
Throughout their relationship, he hasn't shown up for Joon and hasn't proved he's a safe person for Joon to be emotionally vulnerable with and still prioritizes his friendship with FUCKING DAMI (fuck Dami, Jesus Christ)
He has this moment with Joon where things are starting to look up when they've been really tense for a while but instead of just being there in the moment and being with his boyfriend and maybe working to figure things out and continue to bridge the gap that's been growing between them by playing out this nice moment, no let's make sure we answer this very urgent call from Dami.
And the worst part is how the author seems so nonchalant about how toxic Dami is and has always been. He's played almost like a comedic foil to Joon rather than the antagonist he actually is.
I'm really just tired at this point . . . This has been one of my favorite stories until this point, despite all the jerking around and lack of communication. I thought the author was really doing something but this just feels stupid now and I don't know if it's even worth it to see how they end up.
Dami and Doha have places one and two on my shitlist, but the author themselves is slowly clawing their way up to #3
Also ? Don't answer the phone during sex ?? And I'd you so, don't keep having sex after that ???
I've seen some really well done and satisfying scenes where the main couple cucks the asshole 2nd ml
But that just wasn't this. This was uncomfortable and weird af. Especially from Doha, because usually how the phone-cucking scene (not that that's actually what this was cuz Dami was clueless) goes is that the top feels some kind of jealousy/superiority/desire to display dominance to the 2nd ml who failed to establish the relationship. It's kinda toxic but whatever, and it definitely wouldn't have worked here cuz that's not Joon's personality
So instead we have Doha, who is casually choosing to start sucking dick in the middle of a conversation with someone he genuinely considers a friend.
That's weird
That's so fucking weird
And this scene feels so off-putting and misplaced
So to reiterate, I've always fucking hated Dami, but I'm realizing more and more that the real problem with Dami is Doha and his lack of fucking boundaries
Also ? Don't answer the phone during sex ?? And if you do, don't keep having sex after that ???
I've seen some really well done and satisfying scenes where the main couple cucks the asshole 2nd ml
But that just wasn't this. This was uncomfortable and weird af. Especially from Doha, because usually how the phone-cucking scene (not that that's actually what this was cuz Dami was clueless) goes is that the top feels some kind of jealousy/superiority/desire to display dominance to the 2nd ml who failed to establish the relationship. It's kinda toxic but whatever, and it definitely wouldn't have worked here cuz that's not Joon's personality
So instead we have Doha, who is casually choosing to start sucking dick in the middle of a conversation with someone he genuinely considers a friend.
That's weird
That's so fucking weird
And this scene feels so off-putting and misplaced
So to reiterate, I've always fucking hated Dami, but I'm realizing more and more that the real problem with Dami is Doha and his lack of fucking boundaries
This was one of the most validating and relatable chain of comments I’ve seen in a long time thank you (also you’re hilarious bro ik you’re just mad but you got me cackling over here)
That's probably one of the nicest things anyone's ever said <3
And I'm glad I could make you laugh :"
you're putting all the blame on Doha while Joon keeps pushing him away everytime he tries to communicate? he always puts others first and forgets all his plans with Doha just to please his classmates?
Holy shit, he got off way to light
At the very least, when the older brother realized how much the ML was struggling, I wanted him to also learn how big of a piece of shit Heesu was
He got to be sneaky and nasty and just gets away with it and has no real fall from grace and it's boiling me from the inside out
Seriously... this whole time I was practically holding a knife reading to stab that dick
*ready
That’s what’s insane to me too, he’s not just some jealous meddling ass, he’s literally manipulated him and played on his emotions since childhood with his “everyone hates you but /i/ don’t so do whatever I say if you wanna keep that’ stuff, not only did he come out with no punishment, the supposedly loving siblings also somehow see him as ml’s “only friend” and on top of that the comic is tryna make us sympathize with him with all the crying at the end and hinting at a second couple with the red hair guy, like no-
Damn that actually felt so satisfying
Because yesss, he's lived ages thinking about what he's done and feeling proper remorse and he got to have his cake and be close to him and be his brother
He could see him happy and carefree again, unlike how things ended up between them last time
And then he put distance between them himself as they grew up, not being overly clingy or using his relationship to him as an excuse or even his ignorance or lack of memories, which feels really respectful imo
And now that all the memories are back, he expressed his desire to see him occasionally, but accepted the rejection and walked away and respected the boundaries that were set
He learned, he grew, and actually changed to be a better (and knows he isn't owed shit despite all of the above)
(This all goes out the window tho if he does even a single thing to indicate he still plans to breach boundaries, but it didn't feel like that at all)
Lot of people criticizing in the comments but I think it's really cute so far
I'm a sucker for an established relationship that doesn't take sex too seriously
Cuz honestly, if you aren't a virgin, you should know that the "serious/sexy atmosphere" isn't there every time and it's more relaxing and fun if you don't take yourself too seriously
So yeah, they seem cute and comfortable with each other I love it :>
(Also, I'm not sure why the anatomy is bugging people, it's not the best but it's definitely not the worst I've seen. Maybe I'm just used to ignoring it)
For those wondering: yes, I am talking about the "bring yo ass up here" but
It really doesn't seem that egregious imo
I think they're just being silly with each other
I thought the outfit was silly but in a fun and expressive way, but reading all the other comments about it kinda made me feel sick to my stomach.
I don't want to engage with any of them, because they all just feel genuinely mean.
One was asking how a gay man could have a bad fashion sense (which is a stupid stereotype in the first place) but also fashion is incredibly subjective
Plus Seon-woo is totally autistic coded imo, so clearly his view on fashion is unique and always has been. It's based on the things he genuinely likes and wants to wear, not by societal expectations or tends.
I think Seon-woo is incredibly fashion oriented and seems to genuinely enjoy fashion. The idea of a "good" fashion sense depends entirely on how trendy someone is, and Seon-woo (especially in his own mind, where he can actually wear whatever he wants) has no desire to follow trends
Someone else said that TWO GIRLS ONE CUP was better LGBT+ representation
Which, I know this is supposed to be a joke or hyperbole, but it just blows my mind that that someone would even suggest, even as a joke, that fetish scat porn that objectifies women interact with each other sexually ( . . . If you can call it that) is better representation than a neurodivergent gay man in a loving relationship
The fashion thing is just a joke tho, I understand the second one 2 girl thing but you're too serious about the fashion thing...we know it's just a stereotype but that's the joke?! Second of all this is fictional comedy people are gonna respond to it with jokes...unfunny or not I doubt anyone wanted to do any harm, idk how and why you feel sick to your stomach because of that.
It can just feel like autistic people or neurodivergent people are just something to gawk and laugh at
I know it's fiction, but we don't really get a lot of blatant representation like this
People are laughing and making jokes and don't mean any harm, because yes they are just engaging with fiction and I don't hold anything against them for saying these things, but it still feels like the same kind of treatment that teaches autistic kids to keep their autistic traits out of sight
I know that for the most part, there is no intention to be unkind, but there is an underlying tone of rejection to these comments
The fashion comment, wasn't that bad and wasn't really mean either, I just find that stereotype irritating
It's a whole ongoing joke on this manhwa that seonwoo as awful fashion sense, not once as it been confirmed that he was autistic/neurodivergent and not to seem ignorant but wouldn't that mean that the manhwa is just poking fun at the autistic kids too? Lmao I don't think this is something to look too deep into.
Oh the manhwa is certainly questionable, not just for that but also for kind of pushing this idea that Seon-woo has to be taught how to mask (ya know, that whole "glow up" thing) to be accepted not just in his work place but also in his relationship
The relationship aspect does seem to be coming back around to his bf actually seeming to not just accept but kind of like how "eccentric" Seon-woo is
But either way, I don't like that it feels like it's message is pro-masking at times
And yes, the manhwa totally plays up these eccentric traits for comedy, but it feels different when a fictional character rejects these traits than when irl people do
My favorite thing about this manhwa is that I see myself (as an autistic person) in Seon-woo and I read because I genuinely enjoy his character and how he expresses himself (even tho he's not stated to be neurodivergent, he has all the traits, so if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . .)
And it can be sad and hurtful to find out that the other readers, people who I would want to have some sense of community with in our shared interest, don't read for the same reason and don't feel the same way about Seon-woo or people like me
And yes, I am probably taking this way too seriously as you'll point out
It's the autism.
I don't engage in the "right" way
And things that I care about or that might hurt my feelings aren't legitimate because others can't empathize
In the end I'm just talking about my feelings, so it's not like what I say can be proven "right" or "wrong", and it's okay if you can see where I'm coming from
I see, I understand where you're coming from, at least we can agree that seonwoo is best boy (≧∀≦)
Absolutely! :))
I never thought about the autistic side of Seon-Woo. It all makes sense now. I admit I was just seeing him as a lame and cringe guy with a cute and smart side but him being potentially autistic explains his character and his behavior way better. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
I don't think there's a problem with having both fan translations and officials
I (like many others) like to read both
This isn't an official site so it's not like you can make the rules as to whether or not fan translations should be uploaded ahead of officials
I could understand the issue if someone else was uploading officials when you'd already bought them to upload
But you'd still be supporting the author ?? So what are you whining about
The only case I could really get behind this energy is if you were personally working to scanlate a work and someone uploaded over you with their own fan translation
Cuz then you've put some level of work and time into it so it is kinda rude at that point
Why are so many people popping in just to be like "I dropped this forever ago, why's it still going lololol"
Also, not sure why people are complaining about the story so much -- every piece of fiction requires some level of suspension of disbelief and the complaints are so minor it has me shaking my head
Anyway, I love this story, I also stopped reading a few years ago but I reread and caught back up just recently. I definitely think it's worth reading.
Thank you! If they don't like it just don't say anything and move on. Kinda ruins it for everyone else
I mean, having actual criticisms is fine ? Like if you would enjoy it except you find specific aspects annoying or immersion breaking or even if it's just a trope that you don't like, and you want to comment on it, I think that's fine even if I don't really agree with their opinion because there's definitely space for people with differing opinions
But it's like they're popping in just to be like "lol cringe this sux" and there's enough of them that it makes the whole comment section feel completely negative :(
Exactly! There's nothing wrong with giving an honest review, but to simply pop in to be rude...nah, you're killing the vibe