Lot of people criticizing in the comments but I think it's really cute so far
I'm a sucker for an established relationship that doesn't take sex too seriously
Cuz honestly, if you aren't a virgin, you should know that the "serious/sexy atmosphere" isn't there every time and it's more relaxing and fun if you don't take yourself too seriously
So yeah, they seem cute and comfortable with each other I love it :>
(Also, I'm not sure why the anatomy is bugging people, it's not the best but it's definitely not the worst I've seen. Maybe I'm just used to ignoring it)
For those wondering: yes, I am talking about the "bring yo ass up here" but
It really doesn't seem that egregious imo
I think they're just being silly with each other
I thought the outfit was silly but in a fun and expressive way, but reading all the other comments about it kinda made me feel sick to my stomach.
I don't want to engage with any of them, because they all just feel genuinely mean.
One was asking how a gay man could have a bad fashion sense (which is a stupid stereotype in the first place) but also fashion is incredibly subjective
Plus Seon-woo is totally autistic coded imo, so clearly his view on fashion is unique and always has been. It's based on the things he genuinely likes and wants to wear, not by societal expectations or tends.
I think Seon-woo is incredibly fashion oriented and seems to genuinely enjoy fashion. The idea of a "good" fashion sense depends entirely on how trendy someone is, and Seon-woo (especially in his own mind, where he can actually wear whatever he wants) has no desire to follow trends
Someone else said that TWO GIRLS ONE CUP was better LGBT+ representation
Which, I know this is supposed to be a joke or hyperbole, but it just blows my mind that that someone would even suggest, even as a joke, that fetish scat porn that objectifies women interact with each other sexually ( . . . If you can call it that) is better representation than a neurodivergent gay man in a loving relationship
The fashion thing is just a joke tho, I understand the second one 2 girl thing but you're too serious about the fashion thing...we know it's just a stereotype but that's the joke?! Second of all this is fictional comedy people are gonna respond to it with jokes...unfunny or not I doubt anyone wanted to do any harm, idk how and why you feel sick to your stomach because of that.
It can just feel like autistic people or neurodivergent people are just something to gawk and laugh at
I know it's fiction, but we don't really get a lot of blatant representation like this
People are laughing and making jokes and don't mean any harm, because yes they are just engaging with fiction and I don't hold anything against them for saying these things, but it still feels like the same kind of treatment that teaches autistic kids to keep their autistic traits out of sight
I know that for the most part, there is no intention to be unkind, but there is an underlying tone of rejection to these comments
The fashion comment, wasn't that bad and wasn't really mean either, I just find that stereotype irritating
It's a whole ongoing joke on this manhwa that seonwoo as awful fashion sense, not once as it been confirmed that he was autistic/neurodivergent and not to seem ignorant but wouldn't that mean that the manhwa is just poking fun at the autistic kids too? Lmao I don't think this is something to look too deep into.
Oh the manhwa is certainly questionable, not just for that but also for kind of pushing this idea that Seon-woo has to be taught how to mask (ya know, that whole "glow up" thing) to be accepted not just in his work place but also in his relationship
The relationship aspect does seem to be coming back around to his bf actually seeming to not just accept but kind of like how "eccentric" Seon-woo is
But either way, I don't like that it feels like it's message is pro-masking at times
And yes, the manhwa totally plays up these eccentric traits for comedy, but it feels different when a fictional character rejects these traits than when irl people do
My favorite thing about this manhwa is that I see myself (as an autistic person) in Seon-woo and I read because I genuinely enjoy his character and how he expresses himself (even tho he's not stated to be neurodivergent, he has all the traits, so if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . .)
And it can be sad and hurtful to find out that the other readers, people who I would want to have some sense of community with in our shared interest, don't read for the same reason and don't feel the same way about Seon-woo or people like me
And yes, I am probably taking this way too seriously as you'll point out
It's the autism.
I don't engage in the "right" way
And things that I care about or that might hurt my feelings aren't legitimate because others can't empathize
In the end I'm just talking about my feelings, so it's not like what I say can be proven "right" or "wrong", and it's okay if you can see where I'm coming from
I see, I understand where you're coming from, at least we can agree that seonwoo is best boy (≧∀≦)
Absolutely! :))
I never thought about the autistic side of Seon-Woo. It all makes sense now. I admit I was just seeing him as a lame and cringe guy with a cute and smart side but him being potentially autistic explains his character and his behavior way better. Thanks for sharing your impressions.
I don't think there's a problem with having both fan translations and officials
I (like many others) like to read both
This isn't an official site so it's not like you can make the rules as to whether or not fan translations should be uploaded ahead of officials
I could understand the issue if someone else was uploading officials when you'd already bought them to upload
But you'd still be supporting the author ?? So what are you whining about
The only case I could really get behind this energy is if you were personally working to scanlate a work and someone uploaded over you with their own fan translation
Cuz then you've put some level of work and time into it so it is kinda rude at that point
Yeah, the grey hair guy is annoying but there's something seriously wrong with his sisters -- you fuck up one brother so you fuck the other one up in a different way?
The way it showed them tearing him down seemed like it could have actually been kind of emotionally abusive at times (but I digress)
i cant hate them too much for it because theyre like 20-30 raising a kid in place of their mom.
Truuuuue
Parentification was the first crime
Idk if felt pretty realistic to me, author was spot on
On the surface it seems really fluffy (or like it's supposed to be fluffy) but Aiden gives me seriously off vibes . . .
Like everything he does seems soooo exploitative, like textbook manipulation and exploitation of someone vulnerable and naive.
Especially when they started thinking about sex and Seowon tries to educate himself on gay sex before jumping in but Aiden tells him not to anymore (and anyone who knows anything about sex ed knows that it's way easier to sexually abuse someone who is ignorant). And then when having sex, they talked about taking it slow but that's not at all what happened, even when Seowon was saying that it hurt or looked to be genuinely having problems breathing, Aiden just kept pushing (and at one point I think he said something about being turned on by him being in pain but the translation wasn't super clear so idk, plus the classic "I won't stop even if it hurts" line that I despise, especially in this scenario where the seme seems serious and the uke actually has a life threatening medical condition)
He pushes and pushes but still pulls back when it seems he's gone to far which seems reassuring to the audience and Seowon, but it's only after he's already pushed too far and that seems like a huge red flag to me
And even before all that, waiting to come out until they were already isolated? and then how started putting moves on Seowon (rather forcefully imo) before he even properly revealed he had feelings for him, coupled with Seowon's super naive thoughts and justifications despite his initial discomfort . . .?
Idk it all seems so icky on paper but is somehow swept away by the fluffy atmosphere.
Also the way he's had this crush on him since so young could be sweet but saying he's wanted to sleep with him since they first met seems soooo weird, especially when literally the first time Aiden saw him, he was in his most weak and vulnerable state, which is a weird thing to be attracted to, especially when it was made clear that he was attracted to him in a "less than wholesome" way
I'm probably reading too much into it, cuz I really do want this to be a fluffy and sweet story, but so much of it sounds way to similar to every story I've heard of covert sexual exploitation
So basically, either the author is a GENIUS writer and and Aiden is actually a covert, sexually exploitative predator
Or the author is kinda basic and is just relying on preexisting romance tropes that are inherently predatory but are romanticized in fiction (which wouldn't be terrible, because I'm seriously starving for fluff rn T.T)
Reading this has re-sparked my MapleStory hyperfixation T﹏T
YOU GET ME I FEEL THE SAME!!
He is such a little shit in every way possible
I'm telling you man lmao ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ