I don’t get it? Did the green haired lady ended up dating the crown prince? So ended up as the empress?
So it’s a loop? The reason Lloyd started “bothering” Tessa and they got close was because of Eril going back to the past. It’s meant to happen.
Kinda funny how Lidel dressed up so well before heading to kill the duke. She’s dramatic asf
I like that both of the ml’s parents aren’t dead
IKR?! It's such a big difference and that the fact that the father and son have a healthy relationship is amazing?!(⌒▽⌒)
No no the mother and father having healthy relationship is BIG deal haha
Wait, if she was allowed to take a paladin as well as take her nanny to her “chosen” family, why was the ogfl abused in the book? Wouldn’t a paladin and the nanny be with her? And even if they’re not, wouldn’t the powerful church check on her, at least every now and then, to see how she’s doing and if she’s safe?
My exact thoughts. You think these are plot holes?
Maybe. Tho it was said that the emperor’s younger brother was the one who made her miserable so maybe that was his doing too?
That's true. It most definitely was if there are some corrupt people in the church. It also makes sense that the church wouldn't check up on her if the church was getting false updates. The only difference this time is because the emperor was chosen by FL to be her dad and that disrupted the plans of the bad people in the church and people associated with them. So the corrupt people are keeping tabs and trying to intervene since it's out of their control
I think in her past life, she didn’t get to choose either. She was probably a very timid child so she just let the adults pick for her. They intentionally sent her to that abusive duke the priests could not care less about her well being. They probably would have sent some mean nanny to control her and some obtuse paladin who didn’t actually like her
Fair point. It's honestly sad. Cause they literally say she is a saintess but they treat her horribly
I would read the heck out of that Antares-as-Jinwoo-with-E-Stats spin off lol
Are submarines, floaties and snorkeling not a thing anymore?
If human lose their ability to swim bcs of flying, then they could just strapped on a floaty and snorkel?? I don’t believe that humans would just stop going to the sea, thus losing all ocean related technology just because they developed the ability to fly
It’s sweet and all but the logic
Also protecting the girl as nations? Lol you don't give her any ease of leaving she carries her ladder everywhere and you still say she is precious? Act like one then. She was about to jump from building to try...
Before reading this again, was it ever addressed how the ml is technically the fl’s uncle?? Because it was mentioned that the ML is the previous king's son with a devil and the current king is also the previous king's son so he's technically the female lead's step uncle
So this is way late but- apparently the Duke was the DEMON KING'S son and the mother was originally human... it was a plot to put the demon king's son in the human royal family. Since the demon king turned the human mom into a demon (resulting in her early demise, her human body unable to withstand being made demon), everyone assumed being half demon came from the mom and the king was his dad, which wasn't really the case. Therefore, regardless of Alexa's royal lineage, the Grand Duke Bel never shared blood with the royal family.
You are right in the sense that he's still *technically* an uncle on the family tree and no one knows they're not blood related... but royalty married in their own family all the time back in the day, which is actually why royalty in the middle ages had a lot of genetic issues and illnesses. Marrying your half-brother's daughter isn't genetically much different than marrying cousins. The genetic issues with that usually aren't too bad, it's just when cousins keep interbreeding that genetics become an issue (which again, yeah, royalty used to do it all the time when humanity didn't have Darwin spittin facts).
Only the readers/audience actually care about the love interest being related in some way. The people in the story probably wouldn't care at all.
So he was never really the previous king’s son. That’s actually a good way to untangle the “incest” issue while still using it as a plot. Did the mom and previous king actually had a relationship whilst being pregnant with the duke? Thank you for answering btw.
No probs. Honestly, I'm guessing she must have slept with the human king very early in the pregnancy, since the human king assumed Bel was his son. There's so many tiny plot holes though, like, if she was a human when she had Bel and was then turned demon, why did the human king assume Bel was half demon because of the mom? Did he think she was pretending to be human and later exposed herself as a demon...? If Bel was half demon coming from a human mom, the king should've known Bel wasn't his UNLESS the human king thought she was hiding her demon self.
If the demon king was in love with the human mom, how was he okay getting her pregnant and then just passing her off to sleep with a human king for a while?? Then took her back, leaving the baby behind as the human king's fake son, and turned her into a demon supposedly out of love? (Though turning her demon sounds more like just camouflaging where Bel's demon blood came from.) That just doesn't feel genuine to me. To me, it sounds more like the demon king treated her like some kind of possession to use.
The whole thing was pretty terribly explained. This was based off a novel, though, so I'm assuming the details were better explained in that version. This adaption made the bloodlines seem so awkward and tangled.
I do like Joshua and I feel sad for the prince bcs it seems Joshua is being pushed as the main lead BUT I can’t get over the fact that Emma’s mental age is 30+ so it seems so creepy to have her get together with one of the boys that she watched grow
Spoiler
I've read over 250 chapters of the web/light novel for this, and I can confirm there is no cause for concern with this one lol. It's all one-sided from the boys toward Emma. She hasn't shown interest or even realized that a single one of them feels that way toward her once since she only sees them as kids. At least until where I stopped, the story is a pure family focused comedy.
Don't worry Emma's type is middle aged men. Instead of the prince or Joshua, she prefers the king
Thank you for that. Now I can read this in peace lol
Wait, so if Luca’s bio dad is the son of the previous king’s daughter and his bio mom is the granddaughter of the previous king’s sister, then that means Luca’s biological mother and father 2nd cousins. My boy can’t catch a break.
Cant escape that royal trope lol
If I remember correctly his biological mom and his aunt had different mothers? I may be misremembering though.
From what i remember and this is
***spoilers***
Judith and her sister, Lucas' mom, share the same parents. But apparently, Johannes is not actually Lucas' bio dad. So Lucas is royal blood in the same way Judith is, through his great grandmothers side. He has no ties to Winterwald though. He probably just looks a lot like Johannes because they're relatives and all the royals look similar.
My memory might be wrong but I'm 80% sure this is correct lol
WHAT?! Lucas notna Winterwald? That kinda defeat the sensenof the plot/climax/idea??
wait when was it revealed he's not Johannes' son tf?
Now, apparently. The novel story is further ahead than this drawn manhwa.
Nah, it actually ends up making more sense as to why everything unfolded the way it did in the end and the time return etc. Also it means less incest in the royal line lmao since Lucas is in love with the third princess. And if he was Johannes son it would mean he was in love with his... aunt? 3rd cousin? I'm not even sure where that stands at that point, but it'd be a wreath.
this gave me a headache fr
who's the third princess? i forgot. is she the one with the side ponytail?
Totally understand! Gave me a headache when I read the truth behind everything I was like whaaaa?? Plot twists everywhere lol
The third princess is the youngest daughter of the current emperor. She's the one with dark hair that was introduced in chapter 83, I believe. I'm actually not sure what she is to Luca, but the gramp emperor is her grandpa and he is Lucas' great-uncle grandpa. Anyway, she's probs his third cousin not his aunt lol but still wild
But then, Luca dont have the right to inherent Winterwald since he isnt Johannes son. If fl and rudy adopt him, the he can, but he still doesnt have any winterwald blood.
Im not one steict with the vloodline shits hut the original plot of the story was all about winterwald heir then plot twish of Lluca.
Im not hating it. Im kinda amaze by this plor twist
Correct, he actually doesn't have the right to inherent. But nobody knows this atm haha not even Judith.
I think that's what makes it an interesting plot twist. In the original Luca went through so much hardship and for what? A family that he doesn't even belong to. In this new life Judith finds out she's royalty, and by extension so is Luca even if he isn't Johannes son. He already has something else to fall back on, and so does Judith.
No? From what I know from the spoilers, Johannes is the one who wasn’t a Winterwald but HE IS lucas’ bio dad and he’s still the princess’ child, so he’s still a royal, just not a Winterwald. The ml’s mom is actually aware of it but doesn’t care because Johannes still looks a lot like the princess and as we all know she loves the princess so much that she shows preference to those who resembles her even in the slightest. But afaik Johannes is not a Winterwald and Lucas is not a Winterwald but both are still the princess’ lineage.
No, he is Johannes’ son. I think the person was confused. It is Johannes that is not the Duke’s son because his mother, the princess, had slept with a lot of men but never the duke due to their contract.
Lucas is still Johannes’ son, it’s Johannes who is not the duke’s son but still the princess Vanessa’s son. She used to sleep with a lot of men due to the sudden freedom she got when she got out of her father’s (previous kings) grasp. Here’s the link to the spoiler if you want, go to page 4:
https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/threads/i-will-make-an-effort-to-change-the-genre.110458/page-4#post-6288094
The duke actually know that Johannes isn’t his bio son and SPOILER he’s the one who had Johannes killed because he basically talked trash about Sophie
Lucas’ bio parents are still incest because he’s still Johannes’ son. His bio parents are 2nd cousins because the previous king’s off spring and Judith’s parents are 1st cousins because their parents are brother and sister. That makes Johannes (previous king’s grandson) and Lucas’ bio mom (sister of the previous king) 2nd cousins.
They’re full blooded sisters. I think that's another manhwa
DAMN. THATS PLOTWIST BEUOND THE PLOTWIST Σ( ￣□￣||)
No, haha I gave fair warning I was only 80% sure. But you're right! I probably got confused with Judith's sister saying she also slept around a fair bit and wasn't in love with Johannes. This also ties in with Lucas much better later, from the spoilers I remember.
Yes lol, I got confused by what u said and even read the spoilers again haha. They both slept around quite a bit along but yeah, they’re second cousins. Though it’s not like they’re aware of it, just weird but I love how the author made sure Judith and Rudiger, the main leads, aren’t cousins lol