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That's not rape. He would have conceived a child without her permission but he didn't force the process to conceiving a child, sex, so it isn't rape though he still committed a crime or at least in our reality he did.

She never consented to having sex?? He THOUGHT she was having sex with him and drugged her food to make her pregnant + to hinder her mental processing and movement. Literally date rape. It fucking disgusts me how fellow women are still supporting problematic men.

it is rape. putting drugs in someone else’s drink to take advantage of them and make them more vulnerable to sexual advances/alter their state of mind is rape. ever heard of date rape drugs? anyone who’s in the right mind would never use that method on anyone. you already said “without permission” and rape is all about doing something bad to someone without their consent. sure, he didn’t succeed but the fact that he’s well aware that what he’s doing is not within yan an’s wishes, not to mention drugging someone and making them pregnant without their consent IS bad no matter the circumstances, it’s still an attempted rape. and for me, the fact that he even attempted and planned to do so means he’s already a rapist.

Yeah, he thought she was going to have sex with him. He was planning on making her pregenet without her permission but she would be the one to initiate the sex part of it. No one here's trying to say that he didn't commit what was a crime but the crime would not be rape.

The drug would make her more susceptible to pregnancy but he wouldn't force the sex part on her. You say rape is just doing something to someone without permission, it's not. Its sexual intercourse without permission, not pregnancy. Litterly if someone kidnapped another person and forcefully gave them a blowjob they would not be tried for rape but sex assult/battery. He can't be a rapist if he hasn't actually done it yet, planning or not. Not to mention that we see that his mother's just the one who's doing anything. He doesn't seem to want to actually inflict any harm on her and the chocking was too much. He's just a pawn, he never planned everything, his mother and everyone else around him did. He's traumatized by the abuse his brother faced, scaring him like that is not the right procedure. You seem to be looking at everything from one perspective. Why don't you broaden your view before replying back to me.

bruh..... how many times do i have to say it in order for you to get it? HE PUT DRUGS IN HER DRINK WITH THE INTENTION OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HER. if she succeeded in drinking it and became incapacitated/had her mind altered in order to be more vulnerable/easy to give in to his sexual advances, then that’s RAPE. IT’S NOT WITHIN HER AWARENESS TO GIVE CONSENT IN THAT STATE.

if that happened, ruo yun is still forcing her to have sex bc she’s already been drugged and more easy to give in to his advances which would yes, you guessed it, leads to RAPE. he doesn’t need to manhandle her bc she already can’t fight back because of her altered state of mind.

and what do you even mean by “Litterly if someone kidnapped another person and forcefully gave them a blowjob they would not be tried for rape but sex assult/battery“ ???? do you know how fucking stupid you sound??? sexual assault is RAPE you dumbass. you mean to tell me if someone forcefully had someone give them a blowjob you wouldn’t view them as a rapist still? you still wouldn’t label call that act as rape?

and yeah sure, keep defending the pawn who knew EXACTLY what he was doing to yan an by giving the permission to his servant to drug her drink, all bc he wanted to get her pregnant without her consent. NO TRAUMA in this world will be enough

the only thing i’m hearing from you is how you’re justifying his actions

SERIOUSLY educate yourself before you reply back lmao. idk what your gender is

ok i got cut off lol but here’s the continuation:

and yeah sure, keep defending the pawn who knew EXACTLY what he was doing to yan an by giving the permission to his servant to drug her drink, all bc he wanted to get her pregnant without her consent. NO TRAUMA in this world will be enough to justify/excuse his actions and what he tried to do to yan an. the only thing i’m hearing from you is how you’re justifying his actions because of his trauma which is just sickening... honestly.

SERIOUSLY educate yourself before you reply back lmao. idk what your gender is but i hope you know that pregnancy goes both ways and needs to involve consent from both sides, not just one, in that case, if you try to drug your partner and make your partner pregnant WITHOUT their consent then that is RAPE in its most basic form. the fact that he PLANNED it and was INTENDING FULLY to go through with his plan makes him already a rapist. if you’re gonna be more precise, then it IS ATTEMPTED RAPE which once again still translates to him being a RAPIST in the end.

Also: The drug also slows down her physical and mental processes, which means that if he was successful, it would constitute as rape because consent was never given and even if it was given, it wouldn't be continuous. Consent needs to be continuous. If it isn't, it's rape.

Maybe I don't remember reading about the part that would make her more susceptible to sex? Wasn't it just pregnancy? Though if it wasn't then it would be rape if it happened. I also have to say the amount of caps you have makes everything harder to read and annoying. Sexual assault is not the same thing as rape, don't call me a dumbass when your in the wrong. I would still see them in just as much as a bad view as rape, but by definition, they are not a rapist.

I'm talking about the definition of rape here, not the emotional value.

http://crimevictimlawyerusa.com/rape-vs-sexual assault/#:~:text=Sexual%20assault%2C%20on%20the%20other%20hand%2C%20includes%20any,the%20second%20degree%2C%20except%20in%20cases%20of%20rape%29.

I don't care how mad you are, I never cursed at you, I don't appreciate you doing it to me either.

I'm not defending his actions, but really now he's not the one who planned everything anyway, he's a spoiled brat, but doesn't seem to be a bad person. You have to look at everything from his view, he was raised that way.

I'm a female. I don't need all that consent part, I know what it is. Don't treat me like an idiot.

Can you give me a quote on exactly what the drug is and does. I don't remember what chapter it's in. Really now, I appreciate you much more than the other guy.

what...........rape is a type of sexual assault so rape IS sexual assault. it’s not a matter of “emotional value”. rape is not just penetration through the private parts. it can be through the mouth too so even by your example of someone forcing another person to give them a blowjob, that’s still categorized as rape. idk wtf you’re fighting so hard for. you can look up literally ANY definition in the internet and rape includes forcing sexual intercourse through the private parts AND the mouth. you’re the one in the wrong.

and yeah, i have every right to be mad bc you came in here spouting shit abt how this or that isn’t rape because for you, it isn’t enough to be considered rape. you’re telling me if a friend came to you abt how someone tried to drug them and how they almost got pregnant by a rapist without their consent, you would tell them that TECHNICALLY it isn’t rape because there’s no sex part? even tho the intention is fully there from the start? “there’s no sex part so it isn’t rape”? okay? then what am i supposed to call the guy who tried to drug yan an and get her pregnant without her consent? a “sexual assaulter”? a naive child who doesn’t know any better? an person who attempted rape?

no, idk how many times i have to say it. he didn’t plan it BUT he approved it, fully knowing that the drug can cause addiction and harm yan an. fully knowing that he’ll take advantage of her altered state of mind while she’s drugged (which if ever she became horny due to that drug that still won’t be her consenting bc they manipulated her mind using that drug so no there’s still no consent). the fact that he knew all of that yet still went ahead of it means he’s just as bad as the planner. you have fei yue over there getting pressured by his mother to make yan an pregnant but what did he do? did he try to drug yan an? no. he protested bc he knew that yan an didn’t want to get pregnant. that’s the bare minimum.

you’re a female too which means you’re more vulnerable to these kinds of attacks (given how our society are nowadays) but you’re over here still justifying his actions bc of his past trauma. you mean to tell me if someone tried to drug someone else you would tell them it’s ok bc it’s probably a problem in their past that made them do it to another person? it’s honestly sickening that you’re still going with this argument. yikes.

You litterly never read anything I said properly, especially the part where I said if it did more than just make her more susceptible to pregnancy but change her mind then it would be rape.

Depending on the country a forced blowjob would be sexual assult. Rape is a type of sexual assult but the 2 are different. If the persons penis never went into their vagina then it wasn't rape but just a crime as bad as rape, sexual assult.

I never stated weather or not I thought it was rape based off of how bad it was. I said it was by the definition. I'm not trying to argue which one is worse. I dont care how you think or feel, I care about the facts and definition.

You can be mad at me or whatever but the moment you start insulting me again I won't be replying. I refuse to have someone attack me for an argument when were just stating or views and I will not stand it. Just because you insult me or write in all caps does not mean I'll start agreeing with you.

I'm looking at things through the story. He never did it with the intent to harm and was taught that this was how things went by both society and family. I would definitely look at this differently if it was in real life with no ancient hierarchies and consorts. He's an spoiled idiot and what he did was wrong but it's what he's been taught. You keep looking at this like it's in real life and all thinking is the same but its not.

wow lol given how you changed your story and said “depending on the country”, you probably googled it and realized i was right lol. oral sex counts as rape so your example of a forced blowjob is rape.

read your first comment on this post and realize how stupid you sound right now. you’re the one who said he would have conceived “without permission” and then said he wouldn’t force the sex part and then you said it still doesn’t count as rape. girl... he is forcing the sex part if he drugs her. if she ends up getting horny bc of that drug, that’s NOT her consenting, but the influence of the drugs. drugging is a tool that rapists use to alter their victims’ state of mind. does the logic of rapists drugging their victims not work for you or something? it is rape. plain and simple bc it’s forced. no matter what era they’re in.

and yikes.... you say you’re not justifying what he did but you’re still sympathizing with him and bringing up how naive he is. yikes. “never meant to harm”??? even tho the servant already told him that it causes addiction and he fully knows that yan an doesn’t want to get pregnant lol.

you’re the only one who’s not understanding anything here. idk what made-up definition you have of “rape”, but i usually concede here to people whenever what they say makes sense. but that’s a different case here clearly since nothing you say ever made sense. you’re telling me i keep looking at this like it’s real life? so rape doesn’t exist in manhuas? so because it’s a manhua i have to sympathize with the rapist and feel bad for him? because it’s a manhua what he did doesn’t count as rape? god.... i really hope you’re ok lol

and bruh i never said you have to agree with me. but you sincerely sound like you have a stick up your ass. i hope you won’t go around telling a rape victim who got forced to give a blowjob that their experience doesn’t count as rape bc, by your standards you care more abt facts and definition and for you, it’s only sexual assault. don’t go telling victims who got drugged (and while under the influence of the drugs were more vulnerable) that the rapists didn’t rape them bc they “didn’t force the sex part”.......yikes

Ngl I kinda want juicy bad ending for the angst lmao as long as seungho gets the karma that he deserves