well it started off interesting but then got weird and incomprehensible pretty quick. i dont read many of these short form manga styles because of this, the plot and dialogue get so confusing and difficult to follow, the pacing always seems off, and the character development is either a 180 or nonexistent. this one was no different. well it was worth a try.
finally checked it out and its just another slutted out community dick top x virginal bottom who's bad at sex. female authors really cant stand not writing these pick me ass tropes.
You’re not having a bad day, you just need a good clapping that’s all
gurl there are other bl stories with female authors that can write plot too (try danmei!) God forbid a girlie just wanna write a slutxvirgin dynamic with good chem ( •_• )
homie i dont need you to tell me about ball - i know ball. im not here to talk about the good ones out there, im commenting on this one and how overrun bl is with the same tired ass internalized misogyny and heteronormative standards that straight romance was built on.
the readers who genuinely still dont get it are honestly the worst, how are you guys this media illiterate atp are yall 12?? there was never a hint or chance they wouldnt fuck before this match, thats the POINT. this is supposed to be their last time, no more strings attached night. it was always going to happen this time - its so clear the author is saving breaking the "jinx" for the rematch fight, the finale. why does pacing and plot progression fly over so many jinx readers heads? also ffs kim dan AGREED to this. since DAY ONE since yall love to ignore that, but also to this last condition. he is a thirty year old grown man capable of making adult choices, not some uwu baby twink yall need to protect. just because he doesnt make the choices you would, he agreed to be here and hes already proven once that if he didnt want to be, he wouldnt. they were obviously going to fuck but this time will be the first time its about kim dan, not jaekyung, and its going to make him rethink leaving jaekying, because thats what makes sense for the plot and how the story got us here. going forward wont be a contract anymore for dan, letting him see that jaekyung wants HIM, not the cure for his jinx, and the conclusion is obviously breaking the jinx. christ yall want everything so fast in this story because you hate jaekyung so much whyyy are yall even still here
I agree. Personal feelings of readers aside, the story was going to develop this way one way or the other.
The truth is Jaekyung is both Kim Dan's nightmare & also his greatest saviour. This story is about that.
if his jinx was something as harmless as pinching himself three times before each match then yeah i would agree that right before the final match is a good place to overcome his jinx. but when his jinx is the catalyst of the power imbalance and abuse/violence between them then it's understandable why people want him to get over it sooner so that their romance can build on top of an actual healthy relationship
its just so much more exhausting with jinx than other stories bc jinx is such a hot topic bl that the haters love to dog pile on. they wont drop it like other stories bc everyone is reading it, but they refuse to accept the storu theyre forcing themselves to read its soo weird compared to other manwha
again, kim dan made the decision to be here not once but twice, and the second time being after he made it clear he could and would walk away if he felt he needed to. aside from the fact this isnt even the red flag dynamic yall want it to be, because kim dan is a capable grown man who chose this, yall trying desperately to force your own ideals and desires on this story that was based on a problematic relationship and tropes, and expecting characters to do 180s and become new people rather than seeing those characters learn to love and be loved, to grow and adapt, is honestly so exhausting. yall really expect to see jaekyung become a different person for the sake of your own moral high ground, when kim dan fell in love with him as he was to begin with. he doesnt hate jaekyung or want him to act like a different person - he just wanted his care and affection to be returned from that same asshole, and thats what jaekyung is doing. just read a different story if you dont like the character - he isnt going anywhere
?? jinx is entertaining. that's why i pay for the chapters. i don't hate jk. i disappointed with how he's being written. him doing a 180 and turning into a completely different person is an over exaggeration, sure, but that's also what character development is. "forcing our own ideals and desires onto the story" is another way of saying people have high expectations for it.
kim dan fell in love with an asshole. he knew that too--that's why he left. why WOULDN'T you want jk to not be asshole to him anymore? dan doesn't want jk to act like a different person, not bc he loves him for who he currently is, but bc he intended to leave him once this contract was over. that's why he accepted jk's second contract in the first place. before jk started to actively put in the effort to change, dan wanted nothing to do with him.
anyway. i could get into this entire speech about how dan being a grown man doesn't erase the power gap in their dynamic but i don't have the time and i'm sure you don't want to listen to it lmfao. but i didn't say or imply any of what you were talking about in your comment or response so the aggression is misplaced. all i said was that it's normal for people to want dan and jk's romance to build on top an actual healthy, noncontractual relationship. so yeah. i'm one of the readers who's disappointed they had sex. but i'm going to continue paying for and reading the chapters because i can criticize it and enjoy it at the same time
i cant believe we all lived to see jaekyung eating kim dans ass. merry fucking christmas guys.
its giving virgin disinterested in everyone but one man ever bottom and slutty playboy top. also seeing the spoilers about ml being obsessed with the other guy is about as off putting as it gets. if he actually is giving into this other man in the slightest and treating the mc like trash during it, ill happily drop and never look back.
Yes and no. I think a lot of the spoilers going around are from people who have only read the story to a certain point.
As long as the manhwa follows the novel, you'll be satisfied with how their story goes.
ill read until it gives the slightest confirmation of him being obsessed or into someone else, if thats the way its going im out
me: its been a while, wonder what the hets are reading these days... okay be back to check on yall again in ten years
another sloppy playboy community dick top and virginal blushing bottom with a pathetic crush. i dont even have to get to the gang rape in the spoilers, im not surprised based on the dynamics at play already.
The fucking WHAT now???
Update:
What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkk????
yeah i dropped as soon as i saw the slutted out top/virgin bottom dynamic being used but went straight to the comments and saw everyone talking about the gang rape in the next few chapters, which ill be honest it and of itself i could handle DEPENDING on how it was handled but saw the ml sees it all, believes the bottom wants it for fuckass plot reasons, then just walks away. id never have gotten that far anyway but it just confirms my opinion on the story and characters anyway
So I read the raws and some of the novel and its just.... kinda a hot mess..... the top is a HOT fuckin mess... also im very concerned about the status of bottom's rectum/anus bc boy HOWDY.. ( •ὤ•)… ?
Also no one look if spoilers:
P sure hes manifesting into omega bc the last chap I read b4 I have to pay, bottom said he could smell pine/musk from top... and that's p sus.... 눈‸눈
oh look another over sexed man with an inexperienced virgin, what an original plot. every time a virgin falls for the community toothbrush an angel loses its wings.
Plus the innocent virgin having to look super childlike
yall i love yuri as much as the next person and prefer any queer ship over a het ship, but shipping lily and diana is literally just a ship. she explained her feelings for diana to herself and us the audience at the same time. just because yall have never had that kind of bond with a friend doesnt mean it cant exist or is inherently queer. my best friend and i of 30 years are both bi, have never had a single moment of romantic interest for one another, and would absolutely die for the other. if i ever lost her, assuming i survived it, id be this invested in honoring her memory and caring for my godson. people hear us talk about each other enthusiastically all the time and laugh and make jokes, her husband laughs all the time about how the first person she wakes up and talks to is me and not him, and after my kids theres no single person i love more than her but its not romantic and thats okay. yall need to experience real friendships in live and realize they can be JUST as important, if not more, than a romantic one to a person and that its completely valid.
this is what i get for clicking on a yuri tbh. this is why i really bl and bl only, not bc i dont also love yuri but bc the yuri world is a mess. i have yet to find a yuri manwha that wasnt toxic, homophobic, full of cheating, or now incestuous. and i actually love taboo and have zero problem with it in the right scenario but its the fact that EVERY popular yuri has something wrong with it, like DAMN do yall a single normal manwha out there
Dude I get you… it’s like damn, no I don’t hate lesbians and I don’t hate yuri. But these goddam authors are making it really hard to like them!
Ain't no way a bl fan said this...
Jinx, BJ Alex, Killing Stalking are one of the most famous BLs that exists and is still existing.
Have you ever read "Bloom Into You", "Tamen De Gushi", "Ring My Bell" or "She Is Also Cute Today" to name a few famous titles within the yuri community..?
The toxicity goes both sides, but to only talk about the bad side of yuri is a bit mean, when again the most famous of BLs are either toxic or sexualizes gay relationships.
how can you like taboo but stop at incest lmao.. as if BL isn't "worse" than yuri. stop comparing the two and saying one is better when both have their flaws. maybe stay away from "tabooed" yuri and just read mainstream fluff next time.
No literally these ppl are such misogynists they don't even realise it if the shit ur reading is always toxic maybe that's a you problem??? Saying this when green Yuri is literally the most popular Yuri out there right now is so funny
homie can you read? i said i dont mind taboo, my problem with yuri is that every damn popular yuri i come across is overly freaked out like this, unlike the bls or straight manwha where its more even. toxic yuri is just all that seems to sell, you have to hunt for the normal shit if youre tired of the toxic problematic taboo tropes over and over again.
yall actually lack reading comprehension, which honestly explains why youre in the comment sections of this story getting mad at me
No, I read and understood you loud and clear. It’s the fact you objectively grouped it all under “popular” yuri’s. This is NOT a popular yuri. I have no troubles finding “normal” yuri. If you check my page, I can assure that you’ll find something you like. If you want to read het and yaoi, then stay over there and don’t bring this negative mindset into a yurispace. It’s odd you like taboo but you’re preaching purity towards yuri. Can women not get intimate? Also “problematic” taboo? Taboo is meant to be problematic. Look it up. I don’t know what yuris youre reading, but clearly you’re cherry picking
You said it best, Memes1.
Honestly if the OP just clicked ONCE and I mean ONCE on the popular Yuri lists, they would SEE "Tamen De Gushi" which is one of the purest, sweetest manhuas that's out there, being full of love and comedy.
Honestly I think OP was just being a contrarian and hating on Yuri as a whole. Because the OP stated they like BL and doesn't mind taboo, that they simply hate to see it on Yuri.
You just put me onto a new yuri, tysmmm
baby i know ball, ive long since read tamen de gushi, way before it was canceled. yall are missing the point, you just wanna get mad at me for talking about toxic yuri when that was a term way before i brought it up here. yuri scaled next to bl and hetero has so much less diversity that the toxic yuri dominates the field. no one said the others dont have their own yall please be so fr. but yuri is overrun with it in comparison.
also, i didnt state that i hate taboo on yuri - i hate that yuri is overrun with these kind of tropes in COMPARISON to the other two. yall can twist my words all day but in the end thats all youve succeeded in doing. its so much harder to find goood, non toxic yuri content in comparison to the others if thats what youre wanting because it is overwhelmingly the most toxic shit ever, yuri authors are obsessed with it.
But what we're saying is that is objectively not true though so many popular Yuri are non toxic and it's actually much easier to find those than the other way around. it's wild because Yuri haters say the exact opposite about Yuri too that there isn't enough toxic Yuri and everything is cute and wholesome. People be complaining about Yuri non stop it's so annoying and that's why ppl are jumping u cuz ur categorizing a whole genre based on ur extremely limited experience
Literally go on this website and sort Yuri by popularity, so many of them are objectively non toxic, and the ones that have darker themes have non toxic relationships btw the main characters. Like why r u lying about this
“I know ball” when you dont is crazy. Mind you, this manga isn’t even categorized as yuri. You found this, read it, and compared it to BL and het saying it’s “tabooed” and “problematic”. Yaoi and BL imo have more incest; rape is also super prevalent..Yuri was created for the male gaze, and then became popular as more women became more open about being lesbian. “Toxic” yuri became popular because people on TikTok glorified it. You do not know yuri ball. EVERYONE has read tamen de gushi before its cancelation? It got axed in 2020. You are WEIRD!! for creating a divide in the community. Your comment was weird. That’s why people’s getting mad
whatever you say babe xoxo
people complain all the time because we have valid reasons to complain, but whatever you guys enjoy your toxic yuri ~~~
urs isn’t tho like.. clearly ur js ragebaiting but ur lwk giving 15 and that’s ok
Mhm, sure buddy.
From what it looks like, you never once want to learn more about Yuri from a knowledgeable standpoint, you're not interested in Yuri as a genre, I tried to be respectful at first because I actually agreed with your point at first that there are indeed some themes with incest & toxic that is a bit prevalent in our genre, but the way you focused on that was why we tried to tell you otherwise.
But instead of using this as a learning experience, you doubled-down and tried to fight others for it.
Honestly I don't know why you're even mad about homophobia being IN "GIRLS LOVE" as a genre, it's like PEOPLE ARENT SUFFERING FROM HOMOPHOBIA IN REAL LIFE, so that was such a line I should've seen and understood that you just see gay couples as something to read/watch for your own selfish fetish, not something you should understand, because even BOYS LOVE has homophobia involved.
I should not have tried to speak to you, that was my mistake I apologize.ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
no longer bothering reading, these responses devoid of all intelligent interaction and debate, if yall like it love it xoxo
Do u even realise that the complaints u stated and others stated are literally contradictory?!?! It's like u didn't even read my comment but it's ok idgaf it's clear that u don't actually care abt wanting to read yuri or good Yuri or want recs u just want to hate for no reason
Honestly the OP just wanted chaos within the yuri community, and we gave it that.
Let this be a lesson to us himejoshis/himedanshis not interact with those that spread chaos within our community.
I hope we can spread more positivity and knowledge to those that want it, and ignore those that try to trample on our interests.
Anyways guys I instead will end this with a recommendation so it isn't all bad vibes!
I want y'all to read "Amayo No Tsuki"/"The Moon On A Rainy Night"!! It's such a good yuri manga, so do read it if y'all haven't yet! They're such cuties you'll fall in love with their relationship!(≧∀≦)
I mean cmon, it’s kinda obvious they don’t wanna debate even tho they started it. All yaoi supremacists are ignorant and obtuse