Imitation as a fair game: about real boring stuff

All of that could have gone unsaid. This is to anyone, if you don't want to join, leave the discussion. No one is forcing you to stay. Lol. We are not holding you captive. Just leave. Could have muted this without even responding, but you just HAVE to express how it annoys you. Great. Lol

The funny thing abt stat, numbers is that other count. don;t keep as accurate stats. as we do. We keep records. on every thing. And I do need every thing. If you are trying to compare country to country that is hard to do. You don't know What each called a rape. or was not a rape. Some countries(to look good will under report their crime stats bec. they don't take in the age of the offender / victim.) Or it occurred in the home. Even in the so called developed countries.Stats here are always higher bec. we report every thing. other places don't. an interesting fact, Overall the crime of rape has gone down in the U.S. according to the CDC they think it it bec. of available internet porn and dna technology. they fear being caught. I'm not saying it is not going on just that there has been a drop.

Such a low blow, Now thats just desperate. 4% of over 25000

To be fair, all crime has dropped in recent years. It doesn't say much to say rape has dropped when everything else has too. It's still a problem on a smaller scale, and within the constraints of the current status.

America also has a 4% of innocent people being killed by death sentence. Both affects one's life. And in some researches, it could be estimated up to 20% and sometimes they get accused in court of lyinh just cos they reacted. You said rare which is close to 0. This is clearlt 1000 and above.

If u think 30+% doesnt count, thats around the vote count that president duerte of philippines got to get elected.

She also isn't taken into account the article is about REPORTED rape. Most rape is unreported meaning the true number is unknown. It could be less of a rarity than we actually know.

If 4% is 2500, how much will 96% make? Exactly, and THAT is the "ordinary reaction" I'm talking about.

As for the blow, I don't know which part of you it reached, but I can see that was painful.

Did u even read the other 2 parts. the blow was just so low u cant even see over your own pride that what counted as rape the action and all doesnt look like rape to u just cos there was an orgasm at the end. If theres no means no, struggle and use of force its still rape. In this context like what Anoni Grrl said its rape fantasy or forces seduction trope. Not a hint consensual. If u go any further itll just look like youre denying yourself to cleam up your act as the "im always right with my 'cool' vulgar personal attacks" as youve done in your past comments. Also... how about 80+% rape/ uke seme books out of 6007 manga sound to you?

You can pitch your fits without a hint of decorum, but that just makes.you the pissiest bitch in the forum

Do people rape they rape, they rape every where, females rape too. They rape in all countries. What does the U.S jail sys. have to do with anything? There are a lot of innocent people in jail in a lot of count. for diff. reasons ?Are you here to condem the US or talk abt. rape? the US keeps stats on every thing we know who is in jail and for what can;t say that abt. some count. We don't even know the true count . Mistakes do happen here when we find them we fix them. I'm not saying it does not happen. but some people in jail here have more rights than free people in other count.I;m not saying this count. is perfect. I never would you keep harping on how bad it is makes me wonder if you are here to talk abt. rape at all. I'm done go spread your manure else where.

Look, kiddo, unless you start making some sence and reply to MY words, I'm not going to pay you attention, no matter how lonely you are and how desperate you are for attention. Because you are boring and much too thick. And I'm not gonna be your therapist.

I respect the fact that you are speaking for yourself. The "swish" or "poofta" image of gay men was prevalent in the west at one time too. I think that changed most when gay men who were prominent in the entertainment industry started making stories that represented gays differently. Politics helped too.

What do you think about the rape issue?

I just re-read your post and you are quoting someone else's comment on *another* forum. So everything I said about you speaking for yourself was wrong. The fact remains that the people posting *here* seem to be speaking on behalf of people who did not come here to post. That makes it different.

You are choosing to bring the issue here, to this particular forum, and to this thread instead of a general discussion page.You are not even talking about the rapes or stereotypes specifically in *this* manga. You are coming to a fan space on behalf of people who bever asked you to post here instead of either going to a general or political discussion board.

Maybe if you cared about change, you would create manga you want to read?

Any sex without consent is rape. The harm comes from the lack of consent. Organism is a physiological reaction, and sometimes survivors do orgasm--but tat does not mean they were not violated. Sometimes children who are being sexually abused orgasm and their abusers use that to make them feel guilty and complicit in their own abuse. They psychological damage is still horrible. These rapists and abusers do not deserve medals. An orgasm does not mean anything like that is real life. Many survivors, particularly males, become aroused and even orgasm. See http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/science-arousal-during-rape.

There is no legal or stand dictionary definition of rape that has an exception for the body function according to it;s biological dictates. The point still remains is that in fictional rape, we can suspend disbelief and allow for a universe where the victim enjoys it and does not perhaps have the damage the occurs in real life.

Except that the Hawkeye initiative is funny and they made their own page and their own art instead of going to comic fan forum pages and lecturing the fans about how the images are bad.

:) HEHE LOL

From juridical point of view - yes, that's why I still call them victims. But, unless phisical or psychological damage is done, and those "victims" describe the rape as "the best sex in their life", I don't take those victims serious. And my point was that having orgasm during rape is not "an ordinary reaction". As for Azusa, it's not only orgasm, but many other things, which I will discuss later in #Karino/Azusa, that tell me that it's not rape that bothers him.

I don't know that Azusa called the rape the best sex of his life, but if he did it would be cool because he is a fictional character and it's not real. The main thing here is that rape as a story element is different than real life rape.

I beg everyone pardon, I can't answer now, I will read all of this answers later. In the meanwhile, thank you for answering me, I'm really curious about your reactions.