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Being asexual doesn't make you immune to fetishization. You're still a woman consuming content about gay men, made primarily by women, for women. Your sexual orientation doesn't change that dynamic.
And no, I didn't say only gay people can write about gay people. I said the BL/yaoi industry is dominated by women profiting off gay male sexuality, often in ways that include rape and assault, and that's fetishization… there is a difference between representation and exploitation.
If you read for 'plot and characters,' great , then you're probably not the target of my criticism. But the industry itself and the people calling het content 'disgusting' while treating gay relationships as fap material is who I'm talking about.
Calling my point 'stupid and narrow-minded' while refusing to engage with the actual argument just proves you can't refute it.

I made a response but it didn’t send, I just hope it doesn’t duplicate. Anyway.
Being asexual doesn't make you immune to fetishization. You're still a woman consuming content about gay men, made primarily by women, for women. Your sexual orientation doesn't change that dynamic.
And no, I didn't say only gay people can write about gay people. I said the BL/yaoi industry is dominated by women profiting off gay male sexuality, often in ways that include rape and assault, and that's fetishization. There's a difference between representation and exploitation.
If you read for 'plot and characters,' great - then you're probably not the target of my criticism. But the industry itself and the people calling het content 'disgusting' while treating gay relationships as their preferred fap material? That's who I'm talking about.
Calling my point 'stupid and narrow-minded' while refusing to engage with the actual argument just proves you can't refute it

BTW
Many critically acclaimed and popular gay films have been made by directors and writers who identify as straight, such as Brokeback Mountain, Moonlight, Carol, and Cabaret.

So what? They shouldn't have?

Comparing Brokeback Mountain and Moonlight to yaoi is hilarious. Those are, as you said, critically acclaimed films exploring the gay experience with nuance, often consulting gay people and treating the subject matter with respect. They're not made primarily for straight people's sexual gratification.
Yaoi is explicitly sexual content made by women, for women, to get off to. It's not respectful representation, it is fetishization. The genre is literally dominated by rape and assault tropes.
There's a massive difference between creating thoughtful art about marginalized experiences and creating porn that reduces those experiences to fantasy fodder. If you can't see that distinction, I don't know what to tell you.

Why is it weird? Is there a research that says women dominating the bl genre harms people irl? You keep saying you're not homophobic, okay you're not homo, but you're definitely something else along that type coz what's actually the problem with people liking bl? does it hurt anyone?
You keep saying you're in the right, you're "logical" and not "homophobic" but can you justify your disrespectful attitude that makes you act like a woman bl author unalive your ancestor or something.
All I was asking of you is respect other people yet here you are ranting, triggered when I called you "homo". I apologize if I hurt you by calling you homo, but can you please be respectful to other people? you should read all your remarks and tell us with a conscience that you didn't say anything wrong, and read my comments properly, you should have some reading comprehension is you if you wanna be a critic

‘Does it hurt anyone?', Yes. When an entire industry profits off reducing gay men to sexual objects, often depicting them being raped and assaulted for entertainment, that perpetuates harmful stereotypes and fetishization. Gay men have literally spoken out about feeling uncomfortable with fujoshi culture, but they get dismissed or told they're overreacting.
You don't need a research study to understand that treating a marginalized group as your personal porn category is dehumanizing. That's basic ethics.
'You're definitely something else along that type' - what type? Say it clearly. You keep dancing around calling me homophobic because you know you can't prove it. I've explicitly stated I support gay men and have no issue with gay relationships. My issue is with FETISHIZATION.
And you're lecturing me about respect when you literally said you're 'fine' with people being homophobic? Your priorities are backwards. I said it before and I will say it again: You're okay with perceived homophobia but draw the line at me calling out fetishizers? That tells me everything.
I've been disrespectful because people were disrespectful first, calling het content 'disgusting hetslop' and acting entitled. Don't start none, won't be none.

You do know that there are a lot of good written bl manga and manhwa with amaizing complex plots? Many expose homophobia, show the ugly side of societies who bully and persecute those who are different. Manga and manhwa is a kind of literature, why do you say it is not the same as movies where homosexual love is shown??

Also I bet you are in support of this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-12/police-in-china-arrest-female-writers-over-homosexual-novels/105403258

that's generalizing everyone. it's the same as saying "men often assault women and so all men are bad" not everyone is the same as everyone, you should be logical enough to understand that. Who even says het is disgusting, well maybe some twisted people say it, but not everyone, like how there's you who put everyone in the same basket.
All I'm asking for you is to be understanding of others, pushing your own opinion on others is really off putting.
I understand you hate fujoshi, okay well I guess that's it. But do you have to say mean things?

I literally said multiple times I have less issue with shounen ai and romance-focused BL. My problem is specifically with YAOI, the explicitly sexual content dominated by rape and assault that women create for sexual gratification.
Yes, there are well-written BL stories that explore homophobia and complex themes. Those aren't what I'm criticizing. I'm criticizing the mass-produced yaoi that reduces gay men to fetish objects and romanticizes their assault.
And no, I don't support censorship or arresting writers. That's authoritarian and wrong. But being against government persecution doesn't mean I can't criticize the content itself or call out fetishization. Those are two completely different things.
You can be against censorship AND against fetishization at the same time. Stop trying to paint me as supporting oppression just because I'm calling out problematic patterns in a genre.

what's wrong with being "fine" that you're homophobic? do you want mo to care? Like I can control you, that's your own feelings, you're free to feel, just don't use that hate on fujoshis to justify being like this

I literally quoted the comments calling het content 'disgusting hetslop' and saying they're 'heterophobic.' If you go back on this topic, you can see it. I'm not making it up or generalizing. I was responding to THOSE specific comments.
And no, it's not the same as 'all men are bad.' A more accurate comparison would be: if a specific industry dominated by men was fetishizing and profiting off women's sexuality in ways that included rape and assault, and I called that out, would you tell me to 'be understanding' and stop being mean?
I'm not 'pushing my opinion', I'm calling out fetishization, which I’ve stated multiple times at this point. I am pointing out harmful behavior.
'Do you have to say mean things?', where was this energy when people being entitled and hostile about women existing in stories? I matched their energy. If you want respectful discourse, it needs to go both ways.
And you STILL haven't addressed why you're 'fine' with homophobia but draw the line at me criticizing fujoshis.

oh, that's what you're saying. I get it now, okay we have mo problem, I thought you're against everything bl or against women who writes bl. Well, I get it. Those type of bl stories are downright disgusting, I can't even read those popular yaoi I don't get why that's so popular. But I do like toxic stories but I have a boundary, I hate those where mc continuously getting raped, that's just immoral and have no sense

'What's wrong with being fine with homophobia?' - EVERYTHING. If you genuinely believed I was homophobic, you should absolutely NOT be fine with that. Homophobia is harmful and should be called out. The fact that you’re okay with it but upset about me criticizing fujoshis is VERY STRANGE.
But here's the thing, I'm NOT homophobic. You just keep saying I am without any proof because you can't defend fetishization. You've called me homophobic probably 10+ times now and haven't pointed to a single homophobic thing I've said.
I don't hate gay people. I don't have a problem with gay relationships. I have a problem with WOMEN FETISHIZING GAY MEN. I've said this repeatedly. At this point you're either intentionally misrepresenting my argument or you genuinely can't read.
Either provide evidence of me being homophobic or stop making the accusation. You sound ridiculous.

I'm fine with homophobic people coz well what can I do about them? that's just pitiful people who have low IQ. About calling out fujoshi, I don't care about that also, I care about the bl stories and writers coz there's really good bl stories out there, it's unfair to the stories to be criticized and judged without being read

I appreciate you taking the time to actually understand what I was saying! Yeah, we're on the same page, my issue was never with all BL or women writing gay romance! It's specifically the yaoi that's full of rape and assault that reduces gay men to fetish objects.
I get that my initial comment was aggressive and probably wasn't clear about the distinction. But that's what I've been trying to say this whole time, there's a difference between respectful representation and fetishization. Glad we could clear that up!

Okay, I understand what you meant now about being 'fine' with homophobia, you meant you can't control how people feel. That makes more sense.
And I agree with you, there are good BL stories out there that deserve recognition. I'm not saying ALL BL is bad or shouldn't exist. My criticism was specifically aimed at the problematic yaoi content and the people in these comments who were being hostile about het content while treating gay relationships as fetish material.
I think we actually agree more than we disagree. Good BL stories that treat gay characters with respect? Those are nice. Mass-produced yaoi full of rape made for sexual gratification? That's what I have a problem with. Anyway, glad we cleared this up.

Again, there are bad bl, there are good bl, there are just ugly porn bl. bl has sex? yes it can have sex scenes explicit or not. It's a romantic genre, what did you expect?? There are a lot of books with homosexual romance containing elaborate science fiction, fantasy plots also. And *gasp* they are written by female authors from time to time. And readers are mostly women. Why? Well maybe because women like to read and write romance? What is your point? Is this also a fetishization?

Also BL is changing quite a lot, not only by women and for women anymore. Your point of view is quite outdated. If male gay author is writing sa porn it's ok in your world view I guess.

You're still not getting it. I've said MULTIPLE times now, my issue isn't with all BL. It's specifically with yaoi that's explicitly sexual and dominated by rape/assault content made by women for women's sexual gratification. That's fetishization.
Romance with gay characters? Fine. Complex plots with gay relationships? Fine. Women writing thoughtful stories about gay experiences? Fine.
Women creating and consuming explicitly sexual content where gay men are reduced to fetish objects and often depicted being assaulted? Not fine. That's fetishization.
The difference is intent and execution. Is the content respectfully exploring gay experiences and relationships, or is it reducing gay men to sexual objects for straight women's entertainment?
'Women like to read and write romance', yes, and they can do that without fetishizing marginalized groups. Write het romance, write lesbian romance, write gay romance. But straight women dominating a genre about gay male sexuality that's full of assault? That's the problem.
How many times do I need to make this distinction before you actually address it instead of acting like I hate all BL?

As I said before, BL is still overwhelmingly dominated by women, yes there are more diverse creators now, but let's not pretend the industry has completely shifted. The majority is still made by women for women.
And no, I never said gay men writing SA porn is 'okay.' What I said is gay men creating content about their OWN community is fundamentally different from women profiting off another demographic's sexuality. One is representation (even if problematic), the other is fetishization.
But nice try putting words in my mouth. A gay man writing about gay experiences, even dark ones, is still someone from that community. A straight woman writing rape fantasies about gay men for other straight women to consume sexually is completely different. Stop trying to find gotchas and actually engage with what I’m saying.