yes
If the other guy does respect him and keeps on going then yes it is rape.
Yes. You can say no even after you start having sex. If the other person keeps going despite you refusing is rape.
If it was consensual before then its just changing your mind witch should be respected. If you then continue dispute what has been said then it would be rape as it is no longer consensual.
Then that means 99.9% of yaoi content are rapes. Sometimes when the bottom says stop, I am like they probably don't mean it. I am thinking maybe the pleasure was too much or probably they feel embarrassed.
Yea but dude there not really. Normal people don't say no when there having sex. ( unless its like role play or something and then you should.discuse it before hand) Just check in with them and see what the problem is. Be respectful of your partner. No means no unless they say other wise.
Before the act, a person should ask the other if it's okay.
If the permission is given, then they do the deed
but if someone says to stop, then the other person should stop.
If permission was given before and suddenly the person panicked and they stopped, it's not rape.
If they continue despite the protest, yes it is rape.
And is it not unfair to the seme since he is already driven by pleasure and immersed in the act. He now needs to suddenly stop and take care of it by himself.
It is not unfair.
Sex is something for both parties to enjoy. If one person suddenly starts to feel bad during the intercourse, should they continue in discomfort which - during those situation - often leads to pain?
Masturbation is an existing thing.
oh so now its unfair for rapists because they dont get to climax? fix this mindset please.
If your partner has those tendencies then it's better to talk about it beforehand and decide on some other "safe words".
I know that safe words often are used in BDSM so they might feel like something strange, but in vanilla sex you can also use safe words, for example "red/yellow/green", red means to immediately stop, yellow to slow down and green to continue.
And yes, unfortunately a lot of romance stuff has rape which isn't discussed well in those mangas.
Please don't develop your morals around yaoi. Very few are realistic to how life is. Having sex with someone who's asleep is rape, continuing to have sex with someone who is telling you stop is rape. They are not real and shouldn't be taken as life lessons or manuals on relationships and sex. There is so much toxicity in these stories.
Ahhhh.... I am not taking about rapists. This happens in normal relationship too. I just don't want to be biased. That is why I am trying to understand from both sides. I asked because I wanted to hear people's opinions
yeah, I would say it's rape. Irl, if someone says no- you stop. Ofc you ask them what's wrong etc etc to reassure them cause sometimes people get scared if they say no when it's during sex.
The kind of relationship, doesnt matter whether it is normal, like you said, or not normal. If the bottom says no or stop but the top still continues just because he wants to satisfy his sexual desire, then the top will be considered as a rapist.
+ it goes both ways. If, in any way, top is in a position when it's hard for him to stop (for example, if the bottom is riding him or if he's tied etc.), then telling "no" or "stop" should make the bottom automatically stop the intercourse and provide some comfort
I know and I get your point. But I was trying to explain that it doesnt matter what kind of relationship youre in, since the person I replied to said that it would be "unfair" for the seme in a "normal relationship". However, no means no and stop means stop. But if the person wont listen to these words, then its rape. It doesnt matter whether youre in a lovely relationship or you have no connection to the pereson at all.
Yeah, that's why I didn't try to correct you or anything, I just added to it in case it needed to be said clearly for some people. ^^
So, in general: if any person stops giving their consent during intercourse and the other doesn't stop, it is rape.
If they stop, the one who wanted to stop shouldn't be in any way shamed, and the other shouldn't feel it is unfair and instead, try to find out what was wrong and try to resolve the problem.
Ah I see. I just reread your previous reply and I missed the + haha :>
Doesn't respect him* (((;ꏿ_ꏿ;)))
That was a really bad mistake on my part
Guys I am confused. two guys are having sex then the bottom says stop and freaks out. He didn't say anything before they started the act but during the act. Is that rape?