Comment Section when Inshit does something wrong: Fuck him, he's the worst! Die!
Comment Section when Seungasswipe does something wrong: OMg I love him, he's so hot, he'll change. I can't see his flaws.
We know we are like this and we don't deem it right at all, BUT HE SO HANDSOME
At least he's more honest and straight with it. But yeah he was an asswipe for what he has done but its not suprrising when in first chapter he easily killed a bitch.
The teacher tho is like a snake so im just not a fan of him
Seungho fangirls prove that too much empathy for a character (whether it's warranted or not) can make your point of view very bias and can warp your common sense. Seungho and Inhun are quite similar and yet....
Damn son, the hypocrisy is almost delicious. It's like going to a comedy show every Wednesday and Friday.
If you can't make the difference between dirty talking and actually shaming someone please don't talk to say such a ridiculous thing.
''Seungho and Inhun are quite similar and yet'' uh did you read the same thing as we did? If you did then I'm sorry but maybe reread it? Lmao what a stupid comment. You clearly did not pay attention to the story whatsoever
Look at it this way NK actually loves Inhun so his actions and words hurt him more. Everything he is willing to endure is for this man that is using him but doesn’t give a shit about him. So it’s like NK is in pain for no reason at all. That’s why people hate Inhun more then Seungho. Inhun was suppose to be better but turns out he’s just more hurtful.
Plus apparently homeboy knows how to lay that dick JkJk
They are very similar, you're not paying attention
honey, they both hurting him equally. You're just enamored with trash.
Is it? Is it really dirty talk?
No, it's because Inhun isn't fucking Nakyum. Yall dumb as fuck tbh
Don't even try to convince them, they too irrational to listen to logic
Whoa bro, quick with the insults there. Didn’t know you would come at me crazy for not agreeing with you. The name calling will definitely make me see your point because that’s how it works with disagreements.
That was sarcasm by the way, had to point it out because I find that when people respond to way you did, they are generally slow on the uptake.
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Mafia daddy got a piece of Suyoung's ass and now he's looking for Suyoung's Hyung, Jisong. He knows that Suyoung is still in love with Jisong and is agonizing over it And probably knows about the rape). Omg I've never been so pleased w/ a mafia yaoi in a while, dude is so ruthless with everyone else but has such a soft spot for Suyoung cnjskcbdhdcucdbjsakj this is my jam, my bussy rejoices!
I hope he beats Jisong's ass!!!!!! (Although I feel sorry for the dude working at the gym getting his ass whooped right now cause he can't tell mafia daddy where that shitty Hyung is lmao)
I love mafia daddy, he's so fucking morally gray.
May I ask for a link to the raws? The one someone posted here below does no longer work unfortunately :( A huge thanks in advance.
Minhyuk is so precious
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Nakyum looked pretty miserable finally caving into Seungho's will. It's like he's embodying Inhun's words: if I'm a prostitute then let me fall into that role fully. But also, he might finally be using his body to persuade Seungho, he might have finally gained some power in a twisted sense.
I still think no one really understands Seungho's character in this comment section. Do people really think he was empathizing with Nakyum's feelings? He was interrogating Nakyum in the middle of sex about Inhun and seemed more caught up on that than anything. I want to believe he sympathized with Nakyum but.....how realistic is that really? The whole time his mind couldn't forget why Nakyum was begrudgingly asking for sex.
Seungho KNOWS he's being used. He is spiraling too but not because he gives a shit about Nakyum's pain. No, It's because his hold over Nakyum is slipping again but in a much worst way. His selfish obsession and violent actions will never make Nakyum truly love him and I think he's finally coming to terms with that.
Seungho, who is used to having anyone he wants is losing to someone he sees as inferior. He's losing to Nakyum's unhealthy attachment to Inhun and that has to sting. He doesn't stop to think: 'Ah, Nakyum doesn't love me because I'm a horrible person.' That doesn't even cross his mind. He moreso seems to be upset over seeing the extent of Nakyum's love for Inhun. He can see that Nakyum doesn't really want it even if he says he does, he can see the pain and sorrow on his face (the art is really good at depicting Nakyum's torn expression omg) and Seungho's upset it's not meant for him, not because he's sad for Nakyum's broken heart.
Seungho wants his cake and he wants to eat it too, he wants to brutalize and control Nakyum but he also wants Nakyum's full devotion like Inhun has. Nakyum is breaking the illusion of love that Seungho has created in his head by being straight forward and honest:
I never liked you raping me, touching me, but now I have no other choice but to run to your comfort. Even though it kills me.
I think that's why they're both miserable, they both can't have what they really want. It really might be going the tragic route as I suspected but who knows? I don't care, I just love the angst. Fuck having them fall into some type of fluffy out-of-character romance. I want more of this stuff, this is how a toxic relationship would be, this is what you get when two broken people collide with each other. It hurts good, my scorpio ass is fucking living but also sad as shit.
Saying Seungho was only sympathizing with Nakyum's pain is making his character so static. I do think there is a possibility that he might feel something for his pain but it's much more likely that he is miserable for his own inner turmoil. If he truly cared or sympathized with Nakyum he would not even have had sex with Nakyum, he fucked Nakyum to try to keep his hold on him because it's one of the only ways he can leave his mark. Someone who truly cares would've consoled Nakyum, Seungho ain't that dude.
Anyway, I'm happy Seungho is suffering, serves him right.
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I love Seungho's lack of expression when Nakyum kissed him at first. Beon is too good at drawing the aloof sociopath face lol
Yeah your absolutely rightagree much with yah bout chapter 42,omg my heart bleed for this two
But Seungho face tho
I feel touched
I agree with u but
His face was so sad during this chapter
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I agree but you can't deny SH's 'out-of-character' moments these past few chapters:
- SH staying behind to hear what the doctor had to say about NK's health
- Annoyance over his orgy-mates' intrigue over NK
- SH actually finishing his BJ session with NK when he's clearly out of it himself (the infamous eyebags)
- SH asking NK to stay behind and sleep with him (and actually letting NK have the blanket all for himself)
- Yoon Seungho, the notorious fucker, going to an actual tailor shop, to have CUSTOM-made clothes for his supposed boy toy
Even the characters in the story, which helps the narrative move forward, are wondering about Seungho's nuances in action. Inhun wondered why a physician was brought in for a lowborn, the tailor wondering why the hell a lowborn was getting clothes, SH's nameless slut buddy noticing the difference in his actions-- even Jihwa noticed, and he claims to have known Seungho the best.
As much as I'd like a psychopathic, greedy Seungho, he's softening up. Maybe not romantically, hell, all of these supposed 'character development' can easily be trashed if SH gets triggered but you can't deny that Seungho had definitely changed a little because of Nakyum.
I do agree with you though that Nakyum is just using him. Personally I think the....er... attraction? (if you'd call it that) is one-sided at the moment.
I don't mean to offend by disagreeing or anything! This is just my personal opinion ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I do think he did sympathize with NK a little bit though, especially when NK flat out burst into tears. I think it's more like SH have a twisted way of thinking and doesn't know how to keep someone he wants with him. Either both of them are torturing themselves. Sigh
love your comment. totally on point! and lol all those downvoters can't handle you shattering their desires
This is the best comment in the history of Mangago. GIRL! or guy...tell these people what's up!
MY heart only bleeds for Nakyum,
Seungho can eat my ass lol
Fuck that nigga, I hope he feels worst next chapter.
LMAO you know it's the Seunghoes who worship the ground he walks on but hey tbh I might be wrong. Honestly things are still up in the air, they may get their wish ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Idk about that, have you seen the Harada comment sections? They are gold!
Thanks tho, you're sweet as pie <3
The mind games Seungho plays makes him almost more interesting than Inhun at this point. He basically talked Nakyum into a quickie cause his insecure ass didn't like him even being touched by the damn tailor lol he's such a fuck nigga omg.
Nakyum is going to be mentally screwed after Seungho is done with him. He went from slut shaming him to saying "Oh so it is my fault cause it's my jacket?" like idk rather to laugh or strangle him. He keeps twisting Na's words like the manipulative little snake he is. This makes the wife thing he did (the red dot on the forehead) much more ominous to me. He's dressing Nakyum up like a doll now and being very open about "owning" him. He's almost flaunting him and daring anyone to take the bait.
The mental manipulation is working too I think, Nakyum is honestly the perfect target for abusive predators with how weak-minded he is in general. Seeing how Seungho is currently breaking him down I 100 percent understand how Inhun did the same. I'm seeing more and more evidence that Inhun and Seungho are a reflection of each other, I thought they were opposites but they're quite similar.
Inhun never pretended to be a perfect teacher, as we can see from Na's memories that mf has always been abusive and is just now deciding to starve Na of any affection. It's just that when Inhun did show kindness Na became attached on his /own/ in the past. Let's be forreal, Na probably has been starved for love his whole life and imprinted on Inhun w/o Inhun really choosing that, Inhun just took advantage of that attachment.
Seungho and Nakyum's dynamic is becoming very similar to Inhun and Na's current relationship: He punishes Nakyum for not complying with him but then turns around and gives him positive attention when he obeys. Inhun used to beat him when he didn't do what he wanted, but played the gentle teacher when he obeyed.
It's. The. Same.
They're both good at mentally cornering someone to bend to their will, they're both insecure assholes who are very controlling. It's ridiculous that I didn't see it before, Seungho and Inhun are mirrors of each other. The only difference is Seungho's obsessed with Nakyum and actually wants to possess him. This little shopping trip they're taking makes that evident even more.
It's crazy how the translations always reminds the reader that Seungho is more sinister than he first let's on. It's kinda funny seeing the really appealing sex scenes then reading the translation and seeing how those scenes get twisted into something fucked up.
Well i mean...dayummm.
Bro go do Color Recipe.
A+ for your analysis!
But ehat do you mean with the wife and red dot part? I don't remember seeing that in the story.
OMg I love Color Recipe, my all time fav!
No one could ever fully explain the brilliance of Fukusuke's character (T _ T) I love/hate him so much.
Fuck.......um that might be a spoiler if you haven't seen the raws??
I'm sorry.... (⊙…⊙ )
Thank you tho! You're sweet!
When it waa still ongoing. I saw a comment with a beautiful analysis about society and personalities. The extrovert/charasmatic man and the introverted but diligent. How society favors one over the other despite you know someone is clearly psycho but can hide it well ubder his mask that charms others
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Honestly is was amazing and i did terrible job at explaining it. But Fukusuke I think was born a psychopath, since he was little. And he developed his mask so well over time and it was the one that people loved oh so much.
No I get what you're saying! I found that to be the most interesting thing about their dynamic. It was scary cause I even found myself charmed by Fukusuke sometimes and had to remind myself he was a horrible person. I feel like Seungho charms readers in the same way, I'm not naive enough to forgive him but even I find myself anticipating his actions on the next chapter, I even find him funny at times (begrudgingly).
I agree, Fukusuke was a textbook psychopath (which is a hard fucking personality type to write so kudos to Harada). Seungho is more of a sociopath I think, I still stand by that.
Bout to search for some Color Recipe analysis now thanks to you lol
Oopsie ! That was a spoiler
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Do you study psychology? Really great character analysis.
I'll see if I can find that original comment and send it to you! It was really good.
Nope, Asian Studies cause I'm a weeb
But I do like psychology a lot, thank you!
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I have a feeling this might end up being a tragedy but it's hard to tell at times. Seeing Nakyum snap on Seungho, Seungho slapping him like the abusive asswipe he is, then to have Nakyum ask him for comfort sex seems like the beginnings of an unhealthy coping mechanism to me. He's submitting to Seungho instead of resisting (which he never tried to do much of anyway tbh) even though he doesn't love him, he really is spiraling into stockholm syndrome and that's kind of tragic. Especially considering,
Seungho never apologized for manipulating and blackmailing him
Seungho never apologized for bashing his head into the ground
Seungho never apologized for raping him brutally, multiple times
Seungho never apologized for almost /killing him/
But he's still willing to let Seungho hold him because he's desperate for some type of comfort at this point. It's fucking sad.
I think when Seungho starting having decent moments with him Nakyum really treasured that. When a kidnap victim is brutalized and in constant fear for so long they crave ANY affection available, even if it's the abuser themselves. In fact, victims of stockholm syndrome will even try to find common ground and sympathize with the abuser (hence the part where he consoled Seungho in bed). It's a survival tactic that happens when the mind goes through too much trauma. It's better to take advantage of Seungho's twisted form of love than to resist. It's an interesting phenomenon that can create a real connection between the abuser and the victim.
That is NOT love however.
I notice how people will talk about Seungho getting feelings for Nakyum but not the other way around. Maybe it's because Nakyum's thoughts are more convoluted, or maybe it's because he's reacting by coercion and force rather than having any true feelings for Seungho. This is giving me Shakespearean vibes with this tragic love. Seungho can't bully Nakyum into loving him, Na kyum can't seem to make his cold teacher love him either.
Both of them are fucked up in some way and neither make healthy connections, idk, I thought this was trying to go the fluffy route so I was getting disappointed but if it goes the route of them using each other as an unhealthy coping mechanism...well I think that is at least consistent writing.
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Stop acting like it's only up to Nakyum to stop the abuse. No one ever holds Seungho accountable for anything. Always excuses like "Oh it's because of his past" "Let's just wait for him to change" "At least he did [insert basic human decency here]" or people just flat out ignoring his violence. I pray none of you end up in an abusive relationship cause whew that would not go well. You're all giving me textbook abuse victim defending their abusive lover.
Oh and don't get me started on ppl who can only say he's hot, it's not like he doesn't have a personality but I guess it's the only compliment you can give him since his personality is trash. I challenge Seungho fangirls to compliment something about his personality that's actually good...I'll wait.
Jesus, you don't just pimp slap someone for (rightfully) yelling at you.
Your résumé its quite sad but unfortunately real, I m very disappointed about ch 40
Couldn’t agree more. Unless the author can pull out some plot twist miracle out of her ass, this is definitely ending in an unhealthy Stockholm syndrome relationship. Nakyum is already suffering form low self esteem, for such victims all you need is the stick and carrot method. The tiniest bit of affection from Seungho will settle it.
Whats so good about his personality? That it's a bad one - and in fictional storys sometimes the bad ones are the most complex and with the most potential for changing. It's just so interesting. So yes, his personality is trash but it would be so boring if it would be a diamond from the start ╮(￣▽￣)╭ (and yes "being hot" is very important for wanting to see the change... sad but true)
I always appreciate your in depth analysis to every chapter.
There is nothing good about Yoon Seungho, other than his complexity and unpredictable behavior as a character in this story. He is bad news bears period.
I see nothing romantic about his relationship with Nakyum, never will. I just feel the need to constantly question every odd or out of character action.
It really does break my heart to see where Nakyum has ended up emotionally and mentally. He has really hit rock bottom. He was already a bit of a mess before Seungho, being a wandering alcoholic and all. But now, he has lost what was most important to him in every way. His illusions shattered.
"Both of them are fucked up in some way and neither make healthy connections, idk, I thought this was trying to go the fluffy route so I was getting disappointed but if it goes the route of them using each other as an unhealthy coping mechanism...well I think that is at least consistent writing."
I couldn't agree more. It would have been very disappointing if this story ended like every other BL out there where the victim falls for their abuser. It seems like this storyline is a lot deeper than that in that respect. I appreciate that Seungho is still Seungho, and not this whole asshole that suddenly becomes super fluffy. The author literally bitch slapped us into reality that this man is fucked up and he won't change out of the blue. Same with Nakyum. He is constantly evolving in ways that ensure his own survival. He is going through a roller coaster of emotions like a champ and we are there riding it along with him. Right now we are like in a deep dive, I can only wonder what it will be like to get back up top.
I gotta say, i really enjoy your comments the most, your perspective and interpretation makes the manhwa more interesting to me.
Thank you for saying this. Hands down.
This just might be turning into stockholm syndrome
The writing may be getting a little inconsistent
You look inconsistent
LOOOOOL, I love this might-be insult because it doesn't make any sense but still tells the person its directed to exactly what you think
I mean that’s the point though
I won't be surprised ╮(￣▽￣)╭ it starts with kidnapping after all
Seungho will do the same shit as Inhun but ppl excuse one and not the other. It's hypocritical and honestly.....delusional too. Just ship Seungho for who he really is...I don't get the need to excuse him. Y'all weird lol
Both are pieces of shit to what they're doing to nk
They are both royal trash but inhun hits different because he is the one person Nakyum loves and admires. Everything he has suffered was for him. So to hear such contempt from the center of your world, the person you believe will have your back is probably a lot more painful than what comes from a total stranger. Although obviously being raped is incredibly traumatic. But imagine also losing your only source of comfort during such dark moments in your life?
Both are equally bad.
naw...seungho is worst still
Meh whoever is worst doesnt even matter at this point. I still hate them both. I guess I hate Inhun more because he reminds me of some people in my life. Ive never experienced anything as traumatic as what Seungho has done so I can't speak from that perspective.
How are all the crappy yaois on this website being updated but not this one?
There is no official english translation so this is all we have T-T sucks man. I really want to know the full translation.
I know(￣∇￣")
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This is getting so interesting! In chapter 16 we see a little bit of Suyoung and Jisong's past and it seems like something about them being caught by the boxing director made Su want to leave the gym? Which we already kinda knew but I didn't realize he wanted to leave even while he was healthy. Is the director homophobic or something? Or were they not allowed to date for professional reasons. Who knows but I think mafia daddy beat his ass a couple chapters ago when he was looking for Jisong lmao I hope it was that mf
Anyways, we get to see more possessive Jisong who was clearly trying to coerce Suyoung into staying for a while. Seems like their relationship always was a bit unhealthy from the beginning. I must say the mangaka is very VERY good at drawing intense sex scenes (and intense scenes in general); He almost seems to fuck Suyoung into submission, using rough sex (rape?) to take out his frustrations, even squeezing Su's ankle in a vice grip when he made Suyoung promise not leave. The whole scene was very symbolic (almost like it was foreshadowing Su's leg injury). That part really showed the extent of his obsession over Suyoung and his need to own him beyond just being boyfriends. Almost like a really extreme co-dependency for Suyoung. Jisong is a dick but I must admit I find him very interesting, I want to know why he is the way he is.
And god I love Suyoung, I know he's using mafia daddy to cope with all the pain he's going through but I low key love how feisty and aggressive he is. That mf might not be able to walk but he's still strong let's not get it twisted lol he threw that nigga down and was like "Give me that dick bruh." they both are addicted to the other at this point lmao. I love their dynamic so much, how it's still spicy but developed into something more caring and less abusive (unlike how many main couples in yaoi tend to develop).
Mafia daddy continues to pleasantly surprise me by being a much more protective and compassionate guy than I expected. After he got to know Suyoung he's been turning into a lil softie with him. He definitely is weak to him and it was hot seeing Suyoung beg for him and seeing him try his best to resist <3 and then he looked so worried when Suyoung fainted (again). I have such a weakness for love interests who are only soft for the MC, I can't help it. Suyoung is really bringing out another side of him that even his subordinates are surprised by it seems.
Speaking of subordinates, that sadistic white-haired dude is now getting interested in Suyoung and I think it's safe to say that he's gonna need some comfort for that future hurt. I have a feeling this will not end well for Suyoung. I also fear that Suyoung might be used as a weak link to hurt Mafia Daddy. I smell some betrayal happening soon, Suyoung might start some Helen of Troy type shit within the syndicate if the white-haired guy and Mafia Daddy go head to head, Mafia Daddy won't let him have Suyoung so easily, SUYOUNG won't let himself be HAD so easily either lol
I'm both excited and filled with dread ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Thanks for this! May I ask how did Mafia daddy know about the abusive relationship between Suyoung and Jisong? It was pretty confusing to me since I don't read Korean. From the raws, I get that Jisong kind of forced Suyoung to have sex... then Suyoung left all in pain and Mafia daddy found him in a poor shape so he took him over his flat and things went into fire. But in any part we could see how he knew that Jisong was the abuser. What motivates him to go to the boxing club and beat all people up?? :(
Can I ask why mafia daddy originally abducted the MC and was beating him? I guessed MC’s abusive father possibly had a debt?? Idk I need that context haha.
It's not clear to me either lol but I think at one point he mentions Jisong's name or something about him while Tae-seung (Mafia Daddy) is having sex with him. He already knows that Suyoung went through something traumatic and I think he just eventually caught on to the fact that Suyoung's break downs are associated with Jisong after getting more intimate with him. (pls forgive me if I butchered their names XD)
Yea I think it was because of his father's debt
I was issuing google translate, but then it seems Mafia Daddy stopped beating him because he recognized him as a boxer he liked?
Man I really hope Lezhin releases this in English lol. The story already looks so good!
Right?! Lezhin needs to stop playing these fucking games lol
Im like WAAAAITING for Lezhin but also salty I know it will take forever to get the spice in ch 11-12
Lol