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Iris doesn't like the crown prince (yet). But he does like her.

Rather she's the type that would sacrifice herself like her mom and marry some rich dude just to help the family.

(In any case, it's a happy ending for everyone---)

You just contradicted yourself....He said no but he also consented, very different to saying no and not consenting....please.

It is exactly what I said wtf ? I say please stop using ''no'' in fiction when the character is actually agree. It's not romantic or sexy at all because young or naive people reading this will think that a no can mean yes in real life ??

i completely agree with you! although saying no and meaning yes is a common trope in all kinds of erotica, it's important to remember that the works are fictional. not everything u enjoy in a fictional story may be to your liking in real life, and that's ok.

it's always ok to say no, and your partner should respect that. i'm just worried normalizing "no but yes" may lead to young women feeling like their "no" isn't heard, or that they may have a hard time differentiating abuse from "rough play". communication is the key, and i hope that the communication not being there in most erotica doesn't make it seem like it's not necessary.

It's exactly what I'm thinking about it ! You can like it because it's fictional but with some disclaimer for example. I read it because I can dissociate the two but it was not always the case. When I was younger, I thought that if my partner didn't take my "no" it was because I didn't really meant it. And it is where I want some warning for younger people :(

aw i'm so sorry to hear about your horrible experience b, i hope you're doing better now <3

but yes i agree! sometimes i feel like such a mom here preaching and stuff ahah! i know the main reader-base of yaoi is young teenage girls, so i want to give some food for thought in the comments. i don't want the "no means yes" trope to be thought of as just another part of a normal relationship. if ur partner doesn't take a "no", u better run. no one deserves to feel like their voice isn't heard. :(

It's alright thank you <3

And exactly. I think it's important to tell them that it is okay to have some fantasm but they have to discuss it with their partner first not like in these fiction. We don't kinkshame anyone here, just some awarness because I'm really worry like a mom haha

i'm glad to hear that <3

yeah, communication is the key! no matter what kinks people have, it is always important to tell your partner about it. i understand that reading a consent-convo would be stale & therefore it's often cut off in fictional stories, but i think it's important to point out the importance of it in real life. i just want everyone to be safe :)

right??

also people don't come at me with shit BuT hE weNt To HIs hoUSe for SeX, so whaaaaaaat? YOU CAN TAKE YOUR CONSENT BACK AT ANY TIME, YOUR BODY AND DECISION IS VALID.

We can't forget our morals because this is fiction, come on - do better.

nvm i misread your comment and I just saw you posting BS elsewhere.

I do not agree with your point of view.

Worry about yourself and nobody else, this is not a REAL LIFE situation everyone should no better and......Why are young/ naive people reading this???? This is not appropriate for their age and doesnt cater to them either so what point are you making here? If us groan people understand this then thats why its rated 18+ please leave girl because your making no sense..

Imagine taking a story from a manwha and turning into a real life situation??? Okay sis, im pretty sure that hes more than capable then to truly not want what he is being given AND what are ayll even talking about yall havent even seen what happens next, you dont know if he is a victim of rape or enjoyed it so sit tf down

are you 12? you shouldn't be reading stuff like this, it can be damaging for your undeveloped brain. Please be careful of what you do with people irl.

Just because it's not real doesn't make it ok. You have every right to try to avoid or tolerate the rape if that's ok with you but I'm entitled to my opinion just like you. However YOU NEED to be able to acknowledge and differentiate BDSM, rough play and rape.

FOR YOUR OWN GOOD AND YOUR FUTURE PARTNER'S DO BETTER, PLEASE.

Have a good one.

First, hunny im not 12 lets get that straight, second of all, In your eyes you think its rape and tbh i do feel like there shouldve been a disclaimed for really erotic sex language and scenes however, this is a Manhwa, this very much fake, giving me very much Cinderellas love story, FAKE! That being said, this isnt RAPE because then the author would’ve portrayed this in a very different manner than if it were a story that was based off rape or the character was raped surprisingly (from a viewers perspective). Also, the author has other manhwas published and so they are experienced and if the storyline was based off being raped then they would’ve added a disclaimer. Bare in mind we havent progressed in the story at all so we cannot confirm this but the way it was drawn and the speech....it safe to be 99.999% sure this is not rape so please stop. And please keep in mind this is rated 18+ (duh) so people who are mature enough should be reading this and know right from wrong honey so please.....if u dont like the way the drawn and spreading out the story SO FAR then please,,,,the door is open and you can leave at any point...if not?....then please hold your mouth and stay silent.

What are you even talking about??? Rape is huge in yaoi, how can you ignore such a fact? Authors use rape like a plot device all the time. Just because they end up together doesn't mean the rape didn't happen. Like in reality rape comes in all different shapes. I won't ignore it just because it's fiction.

Literally wasting my time replying to you, we will never get anywhere and that's ok.

Take care and educate yourself. Ciao.

Sorry but why are you so agressive lmao ? And where do I say there is rape can't tout read ? I told that I understand the consent here and this is not the point of my commentary, reread please don't make me say something I didn't say.

And for the rating how can you be so dishonnet as if a rating have ever stop young people to read or watch something. I'm sure you have done to when you were younger.

I'm just saying to put warning or disclaimer, why do you feel so pressed about it ? I've never say this story was bad or somethinge. Just that it nurture the culture of rape, not that it was rape. It IS a huge difference here please try to understand. You're so agressive without understand any point here

Girl bye XD, you say every author use rape like a plot device yet you still continue to read yaoi Manga PLEASEEEE XDDDD girly your fighting the wrong battle, seriously go a read something else but BL if you feel so strongly about it your making your point more and more irrelevant love. Because the Yaoi community wouldn’t be so popular if it was such a massive problem. :) Cheers girly and maybe educate YOURSELF on manga and manhwa illustration and maybe some of you guys that calll this rape might realise that it may not be the case.....nutcases

BUT I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING OF THAT LMAO CAN'T YOU REALLY READ OR WHAT ??
And please don't be dumb we all know that yaoi have a lot of fetishist fan in the community and it's the reason why it works even better than yuri. It's not the debate here please you really can't understand what I'm saying you're agressive for nothing you havent really read entirely all the answer here. Stop saying that I said anything about rape I didn't ??? READ PLEASE READ

I'm so sad for you. Nothing else to add "girly".

Are you referring to me? I'm honestly so tired.

I'm trying my best to explain my point of view and people go nuts and start insulting me for no apparent reason.

We are supposed to be adults it's ok to disagree but we don't have to be a bitch about it.

Have a good one.

Not you sorry, we have the same point of view here don't worry. I'm sorry if I upseted you

No it's OK. I just didn't wanna fight with another person.

Glad we agree.

Sure, I'm glad to see yaoi lover who is educate about rape culture ans is aware about it. Thank you for youre time trying to educate an other fan. Have a goode day/night love <3

Again still makes no sense, this was still catered towards mature people of age 18 and over. If the kids adopt this behaviour or read these kind of things then it is the parents fault for not monitoring their children and their activity point blank period. You may say its rape but if you say that this was an act of rape without actually looking at how it was illustrated then bless your soul luv. im not going to repeat the same shit i said to someone else, you can read it all .

You too my love x

Also i dont want to diminish what you experienced. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone! But again this is a fake story and it is rated at a mature level so only people with a mature mindset realistically should be reading this type of content and younger people shouldn’t really be engaging in these types of things :) i understand you want to help the younger community but here is not the place to do so, it would be a different story if it were at a lowerd rating but theres not really anyone room for minors tbh :/

It was exactly my first message actually, saying that I Can see that there is consent in this chapter BUT there should have been disclaimer that consent doesn't work this way IRL. Even if people are more than 18, we live in a patriarcal society where culture of rape use everywhere, of course everyone is not like you and can't distance themselves reading story where a ''no'' means ''yes'' is viewed as normal.

PLease leave this page and manhwa XDDDD i literally cannot with you trolls. Maybe you should worry about that minimum wage part-time job and worrying what you having for dinner tomorrow instead of arguing with me about a FAKE STORY. And using every exuses under the sun to try and justify your point. PLEASE XDDD i cannot with yall! Again go and read and study on comic/manuscript directing AND THEN tell me and prove me wrong that this is rape because its really not PORTRAYED that way. :) im very familiar with this artist style and being and artist myself this story is not PORTRAYED as rape.

I'm muting you suuush, so annoying.

You didn't even bother reading what I've written you are stuck in your stupid bubble and you don't take no for an answer.

I hope you are not an adult cause who discusses things like that? I can insult you too but that wouldn't take us anywhere now would it?

Go to bed or do something else with your time, please.

Ofc! The other person was denying the fact there was no consent. Tbh if someone in todays society believes that term (“no means yes”) and uses it in their relationship, then it all boils back down to how they were taught and raised. If it were my child i would make it very clear and i would also not allow them to read this type of this until they are of age as i can see this happening i’m denying that but i still stick by that this is aged 18 and above and that rating does expect the people reading to have a mature mindset and know right from wrong. Yes i also made a point elsewhere they could’ve added a disclaimer as well! But then again if someone is reading mature content in BL of all places and they have triggers....the BL mature section is not for them honey

Yeah I mean, of course the authore didn't mean to portray rape. But when someone say yes to Come over your house to fuck then changed their mind or seems very uncomfortable, it becomes rape when the other doesn't listen. Even if at the end the two are happy, a ''no please stop'' even if you are hard doesn't mean it's okaye. Again I understand that this was not rhet author intention but it's important to learn about culture of rape through media as fiction, drawing, etc. In our society. There are a lot of yaoi here that use consent and they are really good ! It's the reason why people are debating here, it's important to tell when you see rape even if it's fictional. And explain why it's rape in our point of view. It doesn't mean that the story is all Bad, just saying

Had to pop in here again.

To me and to many people who are mature and experienced enough this was not consensual. It doesn't really matter whether it was the author's intention or not. It's ok to enjoy mangas even with rape but you need to be able to differentiate things such as rape, BDSM etc.

It doesn't mean it's ok just because it's fiction. We can enjoy a story and still be logical and critical about like with BJ Alex or Painter of the night etc.

THIS IS VERY WELL PUT! Again! Like we are both saying the writer didn’t mean to portray it dat way and i think as well that people just read the text a look at the scene and instantly judge but reading manga/manhwa is very different to when your watching something happen in a anime. People need to look out for the way its drawn and the way its was portrayed....ik alot of people dont wanna philosophise everything, but sometimes it is necessary. I do believe some do display “The rape culture’ but id say this through false erotica speech and some people need to realise that as well.

Exactly. Honestly I appreciate a lot of BL story even if there is no consensual sex. But I was aware of it. It's dangerous to persuade ourselves that it's notre rape because we like the story. The importante thing is to be honest with ourself and as you say, make differenciation between rape anse BDSM for example. Here it's not BDSM since they didn't talk or agreed about it anywhere

Exactly! Thank you.

It's not like I said ''you are a bad person for enjoying such things'', I think everyone has the right to like what they like as long as they are not harming themselves or others.

Yaoi wise, rape really does ruin the whole thing for me no matter how much I love the story. I can't ignore it like other people just because it's fiction. The only way to try to make it better is by the top to sincerely apologize which rarely happens. It doesn't solve anything but it does help.

Personal preference for sure! x

Yeah ! To conclude that discussion. I think that we are all agree but it was the way we didn't formulate it in the same way and our sensibility that make a huge thud. I thought you were really blind about the rape here but turns out that you juste wanted to say that it was not the author intention. Now I understand your position. Thank you because at first it Wade difficult to discuss since you were agressive, but it turns quite well at the end :)

Same here for me, when the author puts warning or apologize it's the bingo for me.

This is why I prefer much more some story like cherry blossom where the couple is cute and discuss their sex preference. Consent is so sexy (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Exactly!! Sexiest thing you can do when it comes to sex (▰˘◡˘▰)

This chapter was so rich emotionally speaking but I also couldn't stop laughing at the poor man's arms... they're sooooooo long it's not human anymore XD
But anyways I still like the story !

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WHAT DO YOU MEAN BLUE HAIRED DUDE ISNT THE ML EXPLAIN

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IT'S THE WHITE HAIRED DUDE IN THE NOVEL IDK IF IT WILL ALSO BE THAT HERE BUT I WANT TO SCREAM

EXACTLY I EVEN DROPPED THIS but when i saw it updated I WAS LOWKEY EXCITED THAT IT MIGHTVE CHANGED AHHH. Until the comments :(

Ikr cause the male lead in the story is the blue hair dude (we all here having amnesia on name lmao) I really want the blue hair dude and Dan - I to be the Canon (ಥ_ʖಥ), I notice it after I reread this the one that Dan-I said on one of the chapter inso' law number (smth) that the male lead had a cold aura or something, but still I'm not against the white hair dude ╥﹏╥