That is the smoothest answer to the question "Even though I'm a man?" from another man I've ever seen! Yes Yes Yes! It was a complete disregard of homophobia. It was a complete disregard of the stigma. It was a simple answer! YES!
You better not be playin'! You're practically beggin' DG to bang! And you still don't know what this feeling is?! It's not just sex that you miss, you miss his presence, you miss his smile, and you miss HIM just as much as you miss his dick and ass! Come on! Pick up on your feelings! I know you can do it! Hurry before DG moves on like the smart boy he is!
I don't think Yukio was FORCED to wear women's clothing... I think he changed to suit the liking of his loved one and I honestly think nothing is wrong with that.
I will use a common heteronormative example. So, often times we hear about a guy who goes "I like it when you wear your hair long" and then, since she likes the boy, the girl will keep her hair long. He is not forcing her to wear her hair long, she does it because she thinks it will make him happy and she is happy when he is happy. I personally don't see anything wrong if she complies to his likes, as long as she wanted and consented to changing - what I see as wrong is when he gets angry when she doesn't want to listen to HIS preferences.
I think Yukio is like that. He probably has his preferences but he prefers to allow his dress to make his husband happy. If we think about it, Yukio is not being denied his masculinity; he never hides the fact that he's a man. He probably doesn't identify as a macho man, seeing that he DID keep his hair fairly long before the two got married, when he was a hikikomori (chapter 9). He does not see his masculinity as a binary idea.
Also, we have to remember that the place they live in (Japan) is a pretty heteronormative place, like many countries. So the role of a "wife" is distinct and these two follow those roles since they identify each other as "husband" and "WIFE".
Sorry for such a long post, and thanks to those who read all of this ahaha. I just felt like giving my opinion since I've seen many people unhappy about Yukio seemingly being forced to wear women's clothing.
Spot on, like he always is proud calling his wife a man. but it yukio that wants to blend and gets bashful. it makes it funny. and yokio would be really lucky to look like pubity never hit. i just imagine they take medication like trans do maybe just the hormone the blocker he would grow boobs. but drinking tons of soy and tofu and with herbal treatments that people took before transgender medication, increase female appearance, they call them transvestites as they live as a woman not wanting to be be a woman, transgender take pills the completely swap chemicals of the hormones and trans men have 0testosterone so estrogen over time changes reprograming everything, less pubilty of skeleton development will give better results, some react to it different. my hips grew outwards and tilted curving the spine hair strands thin out you get shorter thinner hands and feet shrink. boobs grew fast. i drink soy too lol and never was hairy. or you do what Catlin Jenner did and gay porn actors do just pay ass loads for transforming the male figure into a woman implants fat sucking and replacing it. but implants, can always tell. face bone shaving hair implants and hairline moving back. costs are in crazy town. but they may take estrogen but just to help keep the body girlyish with high ass dose. but function as men think like men have a libido of men Catlin doesnt even know what she is and its confused and put bad stigma on the trans, like guys think what they would be like a woman, and there bad shit with perverted libido. its amazing the world flips on you. it just caused confusing ideas. crossdressers arent transvestites lol you dont really learn it unto you look back trying to think of your old mind set
YES! Thank you for sharing! That was a lot of cool information that I never knew!
And yes, it really is hard to learn (or in this case, relearn) lessons you gain from society because our current way of living is so ingrained into us. For example, hundreds of years ago, Greek men had casual and serious homosexual relations with younger men and boys. Cultures are different and time periods also change our behavior. It's interesting to think back on human patterns and see how people react today where our sense of normality is so skewed in heteronormativity.
related relationships were fine also. as well, also the defect rates arent as high as people say. a heap of data has been done for extremes. like when you budget. like i read a great deal on that was interesting. if you think twins are a deformed cell so its a mutation. but i read a really great post on that subject as it explained two types of social walls that are planted. but it was good
Well spoken,my dude. Well spoken. Yukio is not forced to wear women's clothing and besides, if he is forced to wear it then he would have been sad rather than happy with Kou.
I get what you're on, but in my opinion one should not please the other. I, for example, can't see myself changing for the one I love, simply because that's the way I am. And maybe this made me think Yukio was forced...at least that's what I believe
I was one of those who felt Yuki was almost forced to dress that way for his man but the last couple of chapters proved he's always liked that way of dress and style. Necessary info and very sweet.
I totally understand what you mean! I mean, in my personal life, I also can't see myself really changing myself for the one I love. BUT, there are many people who do. Some people change their preferences, their religions, their beliefs, and more... whether it's a positive change or not. Additionally, some people feel like they are obligated to change for the one they love, even if they truly are NOT obligated to change. It's the complexity of the human mind.
Yukio is happy so that's why I believed he wasn't forced... ahaha I might be wrong but it's just my interpretation
i agree with you. as long as they're happy doing it and it's harming nobody i believe it's not anyone's problem.
YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THAT CHOICE! THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE YOU! YOU MIGHT HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS MATTER BUT THIS IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM BETWEEN THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF THE BABY!
UGH, this is almost just as frustrating as when people in real life start feeling like they have a say about other people's bodies and choices and children! You may have opinions but not all opinions are created equal!
Sorry, I had to vent a little! （￣へ￣）
There goes my healthy threesome ship... It's been shot by cannons and now it's drowning... I'm so sad~~~~
Well, now we wait for a happy ending for all respective three people~
This was never a threesome in a certain way,because Jisuh didn't have feelings for Sunyool and Heejae and Sunyool hated eachother because they were both trying to get Jisuh's attention,this was more of a love triangle rather than a poly-relationship. I really hope that Sunyool gets to be with another character who can make him happy and that Jisuh and Heejae start a stable relationship and tell eachother about their feelings.
In reality, not all females want to be mothers. Not all females have this so-called mother instinct. Not all females would be "good" mothers. I like how this story portrays an issue many real females deal with in real life. It doesn't matter how annoying you think either character is, this sudden pregnancy shows some real deep realism when it comes to the vulnerability of carrying responsibility of a baby/fetus.
Good luck, you two!
finally! same thoughts
You're so right!
A lot of people here seem to not realize this and they start internet arguing about hyesung being a piece of shit, well he's a pregnant boy, who thought he was one thing and found out he was another. How could you know what he feels?
I feel like we should all just enjoy the damn story
Hell yes
I'm mad at both Dojin and Hyesung.
I'm mad at Dojin for the stuff he's done before. He apologized but he didn't know why he was sorry. It felt empty and too much like a desperate call for Hyesung to stay. Hyesung is right in the fact that he can't trust Dojin because Dojin has shown him no reason to trust him. And I'm also mad that he suddenly loves Hyesung and the baby. Why did it take him TWO assaults/rapes and a pregnancy for him to realize that what he did was bad and that all he wanted was to love Hyesung and be with him?! Now that he's desperately showing his love and care for Hyesung and the baby, it makes me angry because being a decent person should have taken place before Hyesung got pregnant. I won't be surprised if Hyesung begins to feel disgust for Dojin or the baby.
BUT I'm also mad at Hyesung. GROW UP! A baby is a real responsibility! It doesn't matter if you have custody of it after it's born, carrying a baby is a big issue! And I'm angry that he's become this immature child. I understand his anger towards Dojin but that doesn't mean you USE the baby as a threat and as leverage to live a life drowning in money. I felt a lot of pity for him. He is having an identity crisis, he has trauma concerning his parents, he is a naive person who has been coerced into a lot of situations he did not like, and he is suddenly pregnant. I felt a lot of pity for him, until he became a greedy son of a gun. Stop playing the victim because using this child as leverage will come bite you back in the butt. This contract is ridiculous and I doubt he'll truly be happy in the end if this continues.
Ughhhhh I'm just so frustrated! I hope this story continues and comes to a happier place. I don't want anything bad to happen to them or the baby. Did anyone else feel frustrated too? I saw a lot of people mad at either character but I was mad at both! Haha. Please, don't rob me of a fluffy ending... ╥﹏╥
wow you wrote a lot and yeah Hyesung is being a bitch and its annoying as hell but Dojin has never really loved anyone and he comes from a rich family i'm not surprised it took him this long to realise he loved Hyesung, we all know its gonna work out in the end all we can do is sit tight and wait
ahaha I didn't realize that I wrote that much until I pressed "Ok, Post it". And yeah, all we can do is wait for them to work things out... I just hope they can realize their shortcomings and change for the better.
say to go man thumbs up for youI here also to just enjoy the work just waiting for it to be complete to read it all over again
way to go man thumbs up for youI here also to just enjoy the work just waiting for it to be complete to read it all over again
I'm a '98 baby and I felt super old when he said he was born in 1998... I was like... I am an adult... I should have a boo... but I don't... I should have a dream... but here I am reading BL... lol who else felt that way?
i can feel you(≧∀≦)
Oh, yeh, sittin' up at dawn's ass-crack, reading BL manga, born 'before' 98...I feels ya, I feels ya, lol! (ง ´౪`)ว
Relatable (￣∇￣")
Lol, that just OK girl, I'm much older than you.. but never have any relationships and never intend to.. just , I still choose to be single (≧∀≦)
Oh, hi there! I was born in 93 and been single for forever XD lol
I love being single. Im too lazy to be in a relationship all I want is to reeeead mangas XD
Now, that I find really relatable! Read on!
lol me
I feel so bad for everyone in this story...
Logan finds out that he's only been used for 15 years by his childhood friend and he's even started liking his said friend who is only using him... I already hear his heartbreaking at some point...
Ed, the cause of all this drama, is clueless of his real position in this plot. His relationship with his son and his son's friend will change awkwardly in the period of them figuring out their feelings. He just wants to be a good dad!
Daniel has been stuck in a one-sided love for 15 years. Yeah, he's a douche right now (using Logan as a stepping stone) and yeah, he may be sleeping around a lot (which doesn't really matter because he's a friggen' adult except he's using them as an Ed substitute). BUT I want him to be happy too... He's not happy right now...
Every character in this story is not an ideal character. They all have their faults and that's what makes them semi-realistic and likable... BUT THERE IS JUST SO MUCH DRAMA RIGHT NOW AND I JUST WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY AND LIVE SIMPLE LIVES BEING FLUFFY... but of course, yaoi always needs drama!!!
Exactly my thoughts!!! I feel so sad for everyone in this story, I hope we get a happy ending...
Is Daniel using condoms with his hooking up? Because it doesn't look like it and even oral sex can give you STDs/STVs. Not to mention herpes.
I can't say i give a shit about what Daniel wants, tbh. Sure, his love is understandable, no problem there, but he's been using Logan literally as long as he's had the crush. He's really just not a good person, he doesn't care about anyone BUT Ed. Think about it, if he was THAT okay with just laying that bombshell on LOGAN, then how much do you think he cares about others? He literally just told the guy he'd fooled into thinking he was friends with SINCE CHILDHOOD that he'd just been using him to stay close to his dad... No sugar coating, no fucks given. You could see he didn't care if Logan was going to cut ties with him, i'd even say he expected it. He just drops that on him, says "i'd have no reason to hang out with you otherwise" and then tells him "if you're done feeling sorry for yourself then leave". He just didn't care if he and Logan never spoke again, on THAT parting note, he just told Logan to leave... As far as him "sleeping around": He has no problems sleeping around with substitutes, which as you said is fine provided he didn't lead any of them on and they were all under the understanding that it's JUST sex.
True, I hadn't thought of that yet, but I agree. I'm curious to see where the author is going with this tbh (I just hope it doesn't involve Ed).
I want some fanservice or a separate story about Ed, he's hot af, just nothing serious with Daniel.
I was SOOOOOO excited after reading the first chapter. I don't often read these types of gory yaois because I personally can't stand the violence. But this one made me so excited to read the next chapters...
I knew from the get-go that this would not have the type if romance I am typically attracted to, but I was fine with that. I read twisted story plots all the time... but the fourth chapter (and the rest of the raws) made me tear up. I don't want to spoil it for the others who haven't read it yet but my heart hurts. I was not disappointed but just disheartened by what Mako went through and is seemingly going to go through. I adore Mako but I'm afraid for him and that is the worst feeling to have when reading a story that gets you pumped up.
Ugh, my cinnamon roll, please make it through. Don't give in. And J, please don't make it too hard for Mako. If you like him, please don't torture him too much...
Should I give up on this story? I don't want to be heartbroken too much but I'm so invested in the story... sigh... who's with me?