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Then stop reading it lol

Omg I disliked by mistake

So you'd like it if you were manipulated so long as you thought your lover had "changed"? Heejae planned this from the beginning to get Jisuh interested and break him down so that when he was weak Heejae could sweep in and help "fix" him. Heejae might've ended up feeling something for Jisuh later on but at the beginning he only viewed him as something to be captured (hence the butterfly reference in the most recent chapter). I'm happy with the turn of things

i was a bit confused around the time Masumi started being more violent. It seemed that in the beginning it was pretty light BDSM and Masumi seemed to be a bit uncomfortable with some of it, but then all of a sudden his abuse escalates and I got confused.


I think i more or less get their feelings for eachother by the end, but the sudden shift in their relationship threw me off.

you literally typed everything that i was confused about. Just the way that their relationship escalated at the end was kinda odd to me

Lol, sorry for bumping a 2018 comment thread. But I'd just like to discuss what I understood from the story.

Masumi became increasingly abusive or violent for two reasons:
1) he doesn't understand what bdsm is.
From Masumi's pov, bdsm == abuse/violence. He continuously questions (internally) why Tobita likes to get hurt. But that's the point. Tobita doesn't like getting hurt, he likes being dominated.
2) he's frustrated with his relationship with Tobita
Masumi never got a confirmation that Tobita loves him. He believes that Tobita is only with him for bdsm, and Tobita could always find other partners someday. This reason branches off to two: Masumi becomes more violent to "satisfy" Tobita better (hell wrong); and his violence is a subconscious reaction from his frustration.

This is why it sparks their break up as initiated by Tobita. Tobita realizes this and decides that their relationship is fruitless since they have different views on love and sex.

SAME!

It'll be back the last week of August
The English version will be back in September

Hi, i’m new to this webtoon so i don’t know, is the english version available on lezhin or what site? Thanks~

Legally, Lezhin. But season 2 doesn't come out until later this month. The english version comes out a little later, Most likely in September.

It's a one shot, the story is too short to be concluded that he got himself a surgeries...he doesn't seem to like it and has been hiding it for very long..meaning that it's not from surgeries..and it's a little different from the normal yaoi..it's more like omegaverse but a little different too

I just found that people are born like this. It's called "intersex" and I'm just shocked that people can have a female and a male private part combined

Yes, but in real life...most of the babies got their gender chosen by their parents and doctor because a human body can't handle create/making two type of hormone at the same time..so if the baby's hormone flow more to testosterone then they would choose to keep the boy private area over the girl and get it surgery as baby (is what i learned from documentary videos) but ofcourse this is a manga so anything can happen..and i would love it if this manga has a long series rather than a one shot T_T T_T

might i just add that they can't impregnate of get pregnant-

or*

i see

actually, the gender is determined by knowing which part they pee with

Ohhh... Is that so'?.. actually, before I read this comment, I was thinking "what if they pee, where do it leaked out??".. You enlighten me'

Of some peopel are just born like that.

no, intersex people can get pregnant. They have the same balance of testosterone and estrogen. Hermaphrodites (they exist btw) can get pregnant

why is it shocking? If you think about it there is a billion of us. Obviously theres going to be people with different gentiles. Nothing wrong with it. Very normal and its not a mutation, otherwise it would have been wiped out already by evolution and natural selection. But instead there always a child born with female and male parts.

Btw in ancient egyptian times, intersex people were seen the higher beings compared to gay men and lesbian women because they can reproduce.

damn thats annoying as fuck. I wish people were more open-minded.

Oops I read your statement properly. I don't know if babies can't handle it. But apparently you can make two types of hormones. Some gay men can even lactate because of the amount of estrogen they have in their body. hermaphrodites do exist https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/jbgxm/iama_a_true_hermaphrodite/

But overall hermaphrodites/ intersex people can get pregnant cause them have sperm count and ovaries. But it could be rare, who knows? We don't have enough data on them at all.

(づ￣ ³￣)づ wow this is a very confusing topic lmaooo

and also it depends. Some men were able to get pregnant despite being a cis male because they had a proper functioning uterus. They were born with it. It depends lmaoooooo, everyone is born differently

So in some aspect, other intersex people can get pregnant whilst other can not ┗( T﹏T )┛ its all very confusing at the moment.

sorry I keep replying to you loaaaaad of time. I'm not trying to have an argument sorry.


This is an insight from a hermaphrodite https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/jbgxm/iama_a_true_hermaphrodite/

''Could the OB/GYN identify you as a hermaphrodite while in your mother's womb?''

''I honestly never asked, but mom always called me the giant friggin' surprise so I assume not.
Sidenote, my mother teased us a lot but always in jest. I know when I say things like that people think "my god!" But she was very loving. Don't misunderstand that.''

So not everyone undergoes surgery. Properly religious families will. But it depends on the parents you have.

also gonna include this....


''I really must give your mom props for not getting your junk cut off when you were a baby. This shit still happens all the time if it is "ambiguous", often at the advice of doctors. I imagine you're aware of how close you came to that fate...''

''I know. I am very lucky. Blessed even. God was in a good mood when he made my mom. She really could light up a room with her presence. My brother is the same way, though so he is also a gift to cherish.''

because i never knew that something like that existed, thats it

I wasn't trying to be mean sorry. I guess I should have worded it differently. ╥﹏╥

LMAO..is ok i understand..i just said that because most people will be shock you know cause its normal (well i can't really identify what normal and what's not normal but many people was born only 1 private) so the perents don't know what to do and ask doctor for helps or you know..but open mind parents like the person you link there may go a very different way..so yeah..and the reason why i said the body can't handle the 2 hormone..idk for sure..but i do know this that the boy will work twice with 2different hormone in the body...and i'm curious about 1 thing..and here is a very BEAUTIFUL manga about intersex you can read!
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/is_otoko_demo_onna_demo_nai_sei/

lol i didn't finish my curious thing..i was wondering if they have period too like women..>_^

thank you very much. I have it on my list!

ikr. I'm curious as well. I think fertile male hermaphrodites might have period cause their uterus might work. But not fertile male intersex men might not?or maybe they'll have period before they are pregnant? or maybe only once every 6 months. Too many possibilities.... I have no idea....

gay men... don't produce estrogen.. because they're male...
unless he's a trans man who hasn't done hormone therapy. maybe some gay men take estrogen, but that's their personal choice about their body, and it has nothing to do with their sexuality.

Men have estrogen in their bodies. In fact, http://www.cancer.org/cancer/bre... talks about this in the context of male breast cancer. "Some breast cancers grow in response to the hormone estrogen. Estrogen is usually thought of as a female hormone, but men have it in their bodies as well, just at lower levels. " Estrogen is often stored in fat, so obese men are more likely to have more estrogen in their bodies than non-obese men. I have yet to see any research that correlates obesity and male homosexuality. Basically, the presence and volume of estrogen in the male body seems unlikely to be a cause for male homsexuality.

and honestly speaking. I agree, it got nothing to do with their sexuality

yeah i knew men do have estrogen but they don't produce it like women. but yeah, my point was about the fact that being gay doesn't have anything to do with estrogen and that idea is lowkey feminizing homosexuality.